GUILTY PA - Husband charged in cyanide poisoning death of Dr. Autumn Klein

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eddy: I agree with some of what you have written. But not all. Ferrante is not a medical doctor. He has a Phd. I don't know in what - probably chemistry or something to do with biology. But I don't think he would have had any intimate knowledge of emt protocols for transport.

I think it was not meant to be a "mysterious death". I think he thought she would just die immediately. Like they do on TV. Then he would say I don't know what happened, she had been having dizziness, headaches, and light-headedness recently. I don't think he ever, ever envisioned her making it alive into an ER, let alone being treated.

And when a person arrives DOA at the ER, there is really not much done. The hospitals really don't even want to treat them because it makes their statistics for ER treatment look bad. (I kid you not about this.) But because it was one of their own, they likely would have made some effort as resuscitation and then declared here.

The fact that Autumn Klein did not die immediately is what screwed him, in my opinion.

As far as the divorce situation, yes, I think a divorce would have been an ego blow to him. When they met he was the top dog and she was the young student. Now, she was doing wonderful in her career and his - not so much. I have a little bit of inside knowledge of UPMC higher echelons. The word is that they wanted HER to come from Boston. It was a great opportunity for her. But she would not come unless they found something for him. So they agreed and got the other guy, Friedman, to set something up for him. But it was basically no big deal. One primary researcher and three employees is not any kind of a major program, especially at UPMC. Plus the word is that NOBODY liked him, even before Autumn died. All of this is just what was told to me by someone who is in a position to know. So it is gossip. But it all points to him being on the waning end of his career, while she was just beginning to achieve prominence.

The money. His concern would be for his overall net worth. According to articles, they had about $900,000 in joint accounts. But he had $2.5 million in his own name. After the death, he started moving money into an account he had set up with his daughter. That is when the investigators went to court to get his assets frozen.

His ego: Oh, I think he had a large one. And losing his wife to some younger hot shot doctor would be quite a blow. In addition, she was likely demanding sex at specific times. Because of her (imo unwise) preoccupation with getting pregnant.

What makes any man, be he a doctor or a ditch digger, decide it is a good idea to murder his wife? I have no idea. But it sure seems that plenty enough of them do it. And yes, I agree with you, "disappearing" someone would make it less likely to get caught.

If I were on the jury, I would want to take a very careful look at the dates and the content involved with the computer searches and the emails. Ferrante said today that he had the cyanide overnighted because he was on a deadline for a proposed research grant. So he was doing online research on cyanide for months, but then he was on such a tight deadline that he had to have the stuff overnighted? Like so many other things, it doesn't make good sense.

"Hospitals around Nemacolin"? "How does a coroner detect cyanide"?

I sure hope they convict him.
 
Well, reading the tea leaves after reading the story in the Trib today, we have one jury member getting tears in her eyes as she listens to Dr. Ferrante's 911 call. And another nodding when he says during the call that he thinks his wife is having a stroke. That tells me at least some of the jury believes Dr. Ferrante's story. Like I said: Hung jury. If not full acquittal. If I were the prosecution, I'd be looking to make a deal right about now.
 
The jury also asked about the testimony of Jinho Kim, although the judge wouldn't allow the jury to read a transcript of his testimony. Once again, reading the tea leaves, I'm guessing the jury is wondering a few things: 1. Jinho had worked with Dr. Ferrante for several years--the jury might be wanting to see if Jinho found it odd that Dr. Ferrante didn't want the cyanide locked up. 2. I bet the jury is wondering why Jinho didn't recognize the cyanide had been moved from under his bench until over 2 weeks later. 3. The jury is wondering: Would Dr. Ferrante blatantly allow an assistant to handle cyanide that Dr. Ferrante intended to use to kill his wife?

I usually don't follow trials this closely--I'm more of an unsolved case type of guy. But I'll say it again: The jury seems to be leaning toward being hung.
 
AlwaysShocked, the point I come back to is the 911 call. And it's telling to me that the jury asked to hear it again after deliberating for a while. I think they're asking themselves the same question I've been asking myself . . . well, it's more of a train of thought . . .

If Dr. Ferrante believed the cyanide would kill her quickly (whatever that means--a minute? 5 minutes? 10 minutes?), he would've known something was wrong when she didn't die quickly. And you would think that would've caused him to delay his 911 call--I mean, the last thing he needs is for the EMT's to show up and Dr. Klein utter as her last words, "My husband did it!". Right?

Instead, while Dr. Klein is still moaning and groaning, and she still has some kind of vocal ability, he calls 911. What I'm saying is all he needed to do was wait a couple more minutes and the cyanide would've taken full effect. Then he could've called 911, knowing for sure that there was NO chance Dr. Klein could incriminate him. In fact, he probably wouldn't have had to have waited too long--maybe a couple more minutes. Surely a time span that wouldn't seem suspicious to the EMT's, the ER doctors or the police.

Yet, he called 911. And he has to know once the EMT's show up--no matter what Dr. Ferrante desires to happen--that everything will pretty much be out of his control. However, until he dials 911, everything IS under his control. Why not keep everything under his control for as long as possible? Once again, it would've only taken a couple more minutes.

You also have to look at this way: When he dialed 911, and the call got recorded, Dr. Klein's moanings got recorded, possibly giving the doctors and investigators a clue as to what to look for regarding her death. Whereas, if Dr. Ferrante waits until Dr. Klein cannot make anymore sounds, there will then be no sounds on the 911 recording and Dr. Ferrante could reasonably claim to the 911 operator that he came downstairs and his wife was dead on the kitchen floor. Then, there would've been no test for cyanide. Instead, the docs would've looked at her heart and brain. And who knows if they ever would've considered poisoning.

But the moaning--not overtly indicative of a heart or brain issue--caused the doctors to look at more unique causes of death.

This is all called, "Reasonable doubt".

We haven't even mentioned the blood tests. One said Dr. Klein had a lethal amount of cyanide in her blood, another said it didn't. What to make of that? I'm not sure. The prosecution tried to explain it away and I'm not sure they did a very good job of it.

As for the prosecution's assertion that if Dr. Ferrante didn't do it, he must be the "unluckiest person in the world." Well, it's not a very high percentage but innocent people go to jail every year. Many of them get released, sometimes not for many years. But some don't. So, sometimes . . . yes, people do get unlucky. I thought that was a very poor statement by the prosecution.
 
. . . and THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is why I stick to unsolved cases and disappearances.
 
that's okay, eddy. It's always good to hear both trains of thought. So I take it if you had been on the jury you would have voted to aquit, based on reasonable doubt?

Here's the thing. All we got was what was in articles and news reports. And quite frankly, IMO the coverage was not great - neither in print nor the TV reporters. There was no budding Beth Karas or Jean Casarez here in Pittsburgh. The Post Gazette writer seemed a little better with giving at least a few colorful details than the Trib Live reporter, but I've read non-professional blogger's reports on their own trial attendance that captured the courtroom better than either of these newspapers.

One guy reporter that Ferrante "seemed to be a little giddy" at some point prior to the verdict. But there was no expansion on this, no explanation of what the reporter observed. What? Was he smiling? Laughing? Joking around with family members?

Oh well. I am happy with the verdict. I would have voted guilty.

If only for the online search about "does an enlarged vagina mean wife is having an affair". Which finally made it into the papers TODAY!
 
From the second article linked above:

Phil DiLucente, an attorney not connected to the Ferrante trial, also weighed in on the case.

“The one fatal question that was posed to Dr. Ferrante on the stand and that he could not answer was, ‘What did you do with the missing eight grams of cyanide that you had ordered and stored in your laboratory?’” said DiLucente. “And he said quote, ‘I don’t know.’”


The above quote is an example of what I mean by the reporting during the testimony portion of the trial left a lot to be desired. I can't believe this question and answer were not reported!

In any case, sounds like Ferrante put the final nails in his own coffin by taking the stand. Hard to believe he didn't provide a better answer tp where the missing cyanide could have gone.

The three jurors - two men and one woman - who spoke appeared to be thirty to fortyish. The male foreman has an MBA and works as a store manager. It sounds like they had little trouble picking up on the significance and timing of the computer searches, emails, etc.


Interestingly, despite Ferrante having been referred to throughout the trial as "Mr. Ferrate". the jury foreman referred to him as "Dr. Ferrante".
The well-spoken female juror expressed that while she had a difficult time throughout the testimony believing Ferrante could have done this, but that the facts of the case were very clear.

In addition to convicting Ferrante, this verdict rejected "celebrity Pathologist" Cyril Wecht's "expert" testimony. And they recognized the validity of the original blood testing, with sample taken for a still living Autumn Klein, performed by a technician who worked in the Quest lab for 37 years.

So nice to see a young, educated, computer savvy jury who saw right through the sociopathic Ferrante's "cool and calm demeanor" on the stand.


My final thoughts about this case involve that poor little girl. Who is 7 or perhaps almost 8 years old now. The grandparents who have custody of her are in their very late 70s and each appears to have serious health issues. It is likely this child will have further upheavals in her young life in the not too distant future. How very, very sad.
 
Glad he was found GUILTY!

I would have been totally shocked if he wasn't. Husband buys cyanide. Wife dies from cyanide poisoning. What are the odds? Glad jury didn't buy his claims.
If he needed cyanide for the grant and experiments, he certainly should have been able to account where it went.
 
The fact that it was a recent purchase also didn't help is case. If the lab had routinely used cyanide (which some do) and had it around all the time, it would be easier to understand how he couldn't account for all if it.
 
The fact that it was a recent purchase also didn't help is case. If the lab had routinely used cyanide (which some do) and had it around all the time, it would be easier to understand how he couldn't account for all if it.

Plus it was a "rush order" not even routine, that really looks bad.
 
Plus it was a "rush order" not even routine, that really looks bad.

A lot of things he did look really bad.
I can maybe understand "a crime of passion" when one catches a cheating spouse. But all the planning and premeditation, presumably because he suspected his wife of cheating? If she wanted a child and he didn't, he also could have simply said no.
 
Klein family files wrongful-death lawsuit against Ferrante. They want whatever money that is left to go to the daughter, their grand child.

Damages likely would include Klein's predicted future earnings, Perry said. She made more than $200,000 a year, according to court records.

A judge in August 2013 granted Lois Klein and her husband, Bill Klein, of Towson, Md., custody of their granddaughter. Ferrante's family continues to seek visitation rights.


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