Identified! PA - Philadelphia, 'Boy in the Box', WhtMale 4-6, 4UMPA, Feb'57

[Ms Suzanne]

There are also private agencies in Philadelphia and surrounding counties if someone can check that had their own private foster homes? The Children's Bureau,and other agencies.These agencies worked with other agencies and counties and states to place these children.I did feel because this little one was so malnourished that some kind of agency DHS ect... may have been involved.But some one might also have handed this little one over to somewhere to be adopted out and then sadly just walked away from him forever.Very far away.

I'm interested in this place.I believe they are in other surrounding counties also.Delaware County also.


Children’s Aid Society of Philadelphia

http://hsp.org/sites/default/files/legacy_files/migrated/findingaid3026childrensaid.pdf

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Also

Media (Delaware county)


CHILDREN'S AID SOCIETY. ALSO SCRANTON; ADOPTIONS.
SEE CHESTER, PA. 1957: DELAWARE COUNTY
CHILDREN'S AID SOCIETY, 13 SOUTH AVENUE;
A PRIVATE ADOPTION AGENCY. 1933 CENSUS:
THE CHILDREN'S AID SOCIETY OF PENNSYLVANIA.
DELAWARE COUNTY BRANCH. NO A D



FOSTER HOME CARE. UNDER PRIVATE
AUSPICES. FOR 96 DEPENDENT CHILDREN.
HQ in PHILADELPHIA



P.S
I put Media in Delaware County because there was a earlier newspaper article on the America's Unknown child's website that said one of the buyers of the 12 bassinets put their box on a lot in Media.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

WOW.I pray they find out what happened to this sweet little girl.I wish they would do this again for the boy in the box too and re investigate his case again too.Is there a thread here for her too somewhere.Can they make one?I found her thread.

CANADA Edna Bette-Jean Masters - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


Edna Bette-Jean Masters disappeared on July 3, 1960

B.C. Mounties reopen half-century-old cold case
Edna Bette-Jean Masters disappeared on July 3, 1960


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2013/08/12/bc-cold-case-kamloops.html

 

[SemmesMom]

Does anyone know or can find out where most of the boxes that held a bassinet this little boy in the box was found in where were most of the boxes discarded at? What area?

I've been reading over this thread since yesterday and going through several of the links. I cannot recall where I read it, but there were 12 total to account for.

8 were found: These were either still in the homes that had purchased them or had been placed out for garbage removal. When investigators spoke to the garbage removal services, it was stated that the garbage had been burned already, so there was no way to double check if they had been taken away or not.

4 were left unaccounted for.

This is all IIRC.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I've been reading over this thread since yesterday and going through several of the links. I cannot recall where I read it, but there were 12 total to account for.

8 were found: These were either still in the homes that had purchased them or had been placed out for garbage removal. When investigators spoke to the garbage removal services, it was stated that the garbage had been burned already, so there was no way to double check if they had been taken away or not.

4 were left unaccounted for.

This is all IIRC.

Thank You for helping.I was trying to find out what area most of the boxes were discarded in.The bassinet was bought in Delaware County.I was wondering if most of the boxes were found close together or from all over.Like were most of the boxes found in Delaware county?It would tell me what area I feel I should concentrate on.


For instance this article said one Media man.I assumed they meant Media Pennsylvania.That is in Delaware County where the particular box the boy in the box was found in was bought.


http://americasunknownchild.net/Archives2Text.html#BPC

Quote from article
One Media man told Philadelphia police the carton which contained the bassinet he had bought was thrown onto a lot near his home.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

Also

Media (Delaware county)


CHILDREN'S AID SOCIETY. ALSO SCRANTON; ADOPTIONS.
SEE CHESTER, PA. 1957: DELAWARE COUNTY
CHILDREN'S AID SOCIETY, 13 SOUTH AVENUE;
A PRIVATE ADOPTION AGENCY. 1933 CENSUS:
THE CHILDREN'S AID SOCIETY OF PENNSYLVANIA.
DELAWARE COUNTY BRANCH. NO A D



FOSTER HOME CARE. UNDER PRIVATE
AUSPICES. FOR 96 DEPENDENT CHILDREN.
HQ in PHILADELPHIA



P.S
I put Media in Delaware County because there was a earlier newspaper article on the America's Unknown child's website that said one of the buyers of the 12 bassinets put their box on a lot in Media.

I am not sure how many of the institutions listed in this pdf still existed in the late 1950's but it seems reasonable at least one or more qualify:

http://www.archives.upenn.edu/histy/features/wphila/exhbts/vieira1903/upp_9504_v658_ch18.pdf

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Can someone please help me find out who the Manayunk Pennsylvania boy that was put in that orphanage was and what orphanage he was put into.

Unidentified Pennsylvania Couple - In March 1957, a Manayunk, PA couple told detectives they thought the boy might be their 6-year-old son, whom they had last seen seven months earlier when he was placed in an orphanage by the Municipal Court. The mother said the boy "looks like him" and the father said he wasn't "too sure." A team of detectives later found the boy in a private orphanage in West Philadelphia.

 

[alliemay]

http://www.gsadoptionregistry.com/pennsylvania.html

This is an adoption forum, below is a sample, putting it here so I know where to find it, the Gibson name interests me for some reason.

Adoptee Birth Date: ?-?-1951 to ?-?-1956 ?
Adoptee Gender: Male
Adoptee Birth Race: White
Name given to Adoptee by Birth Parents: ? Gibson
Adoptee Birth City: Philadelphia, PA
Adoptee Birth County: Philadelphia County
Adoptee Birth State: Pennsylvania
Adoptee Birth Country: USA
Adoptee Birth Mothers Name: D. E. Gibson
Adoptee Birth Mothers Maiden Name: Jackson
Adoptee Birth Mothers Race: White
Adoptee Birth Fathers Name: J.B. Gibson
Adoptee Birth Fathers Race: White
Adoptee Birth Hospital: ?
Adoption Agency or Attorney: ?
Age of Adoptee when Adopted: ? Prob. under 5 years old ?
Name given to Adoptee by Adoptive Parents: ?
City adoption took place: Philadelphia, PA
County adoption took place: Philadelphia County
State adoption took place: Pennsylvania
Country Adoption took place: USA
Adoptive Mothers Name: ?
Adoptive Mothers Maiden Name: ?
Adoptive Fathers Name: ?
Searching For: Adoptee, Male Twins ?
Email Address: maggi_1@netzero.net
All Other Information: I am told that a set of Twin boys exist, but have no evidence to date. I am trying to rule out the possibility.
Date Received: 9-7-2009
Date Posted: 9-10-2009
Last Updated: 9-11-2009
Contact Info Received: 9-11-2009

 

[Ms Suzanne]

http://www.gsadoptionregistry.com/pennsylvania.html

This is an adoption forum, below is a sample, putting it here so I know where to find it, the Gibson name interests me for some reason.

Adoptee Birth Date: ?-?-1951 to ?-?-1956 ?
Adoptee Gender: Male
Adoptee Birth Race: White
Name given to Adoptee by Birth Parents: ? Gibson
Adoptee Birth City: Philadelphia, PA
Adoptee Birth County: Philadelphia County
Adoptee Birth State: Pennsylvania
Adoptee Birth Country: USA
Adoptee Birth Mothers Name: D. E. Gibson
Adoptee Birth Mothers Maiden Name: Jackson
Adoptee Birth Mothers Race: White
Adoptee Birth Fathers Name: J.B. Gibson
Adoptee Birth Fathers Race: White
Adoptee Birth Hospital: ?
Adoption Agency or Attorney: ?
Age of Adoptee when Adopted: ? Prob. under 5 years old ?
Name given to Adoptee by Adoptive Parents: ?
City adoption took place: Philadelphia, PA
County adoption took place: Philadelphia County
State adoption took place: Pennsylvania
Country Adoption took place: USA
Adoptive Mothers Name: ?
Adoptive Mothers Maiden Name: ?
Adoptive Fathers Name: ?
Searching For: Adoptee, Male Twins ?
Email Address: maggi_1@netzero.net
All Other Information: I am told that a set of Twin boys exist, but have no evidence to date. I am trying to rule out the possibility.
Date Received: 9-7-2009
Date Posted: 9-10-2009
Last Updated: 9-11-2009
Contact Info Received: 9-11-2009

Yes.I posted this a few post up.

 

[alliemay]

Yes.I posted this a few post up.

Oh sorry about that Guess I need to catch up on this thread.

 

[cvillemegan]

I came across this case a couple of weeks ago and have been reading everything I can about it. I really have to respect and admire those of you who have been following this for years!

I had a few questions/thoughts:
1. Does anyone know if Bill Kelly, the investigator (I think) who was initially on this case and spent his spare time looking through hospital records to see if he had been born anywhere nearby, is still alive? If he is, and he is healthy, it seems like he could answer a lot of the questions here and might have the connections to help us pursue this more.

2. The handkerchief and hat found near where his body was seem like odd things for the person who dumped him to leave. Does anyone know if these are definitely connected to him? If you were dumping a body, wouldn't you notice if you dropped these things, especially the hat, and pick them up? Why leave behind evidence?

3. I've heard different numbers on the number of bassinet boxes they got calls about. Some articles say 11 out of the 12, others only 8.

4. If he was killed, why bother wrapping him in a blanket? That does seem to suggest the box was already at the site...the person who killed him wrapped him in the blanket so it wouldn't be quite so obvious they were carrying a body and then saw the box there and put him inside, still in the blanket.

5. Looking at the photos on the original poster, in the profile view of the right side of his face, the back of his head seems misshapen. Maybe it's a combination of the choppy haircut and his natural skull shape, but he seems to have more of a knob poking out from the back of his skull than he does in the left side view. Could this be from the major head trauma listed as the cause of death? It's very odd to me that that was the cause of death and yet there is no obvious trauma that we can see. What did the medical examiner see that we couldn't?

Well, this is everything I can think of for now. I think about this little guy all the time and hope he can get a name and even a biography soon.

 

[amber1]

I came across this case a couple of weeks ago and have been reading everything I can about it. I really have to respect and admire those of you who have been following this for years!

I had a few questions/thoughts:
1. Does anyone know if Bill Kelly, the investigator (I think) who was initially on this case and spent his spare time looking through hospital records to see if he had been born anywhere nearby, is still alive? If he is, and he is healthy, it seems like he could answer a lot of the questions here and might have the connections to help us pursue this more.

2. The handkerchief and hat found near where his body was seem like odd things for the person who dumped him to leave. Does anyone know if these are definitely connected to him? If you were dumping a body, wouldn't you notice if you dropped these things, especially the hat, and pick them up? Why leave behind evidence?

3. I've heard different numbers on the number of bassinet boxes they got calls about. Some articles say 11 out of the 12, others only 8.

4. If he was killed, why bother wrapping him in a blanket? That does seem to suggest the box was already at the site...the person who killed him wrapped him in the blanket so it wouldn't be quite so obvious they were carrying a body and then saw the box there and put him inside, still in the blanket.

5. Looking at the photos on the original poster, in the profile view of the right side of his face, the back of his head seems misshapen. Maybe it's a combination of the choppy haircut and his natural skull shape, but he seems to have more of a knob poking out from the back of his skull than he does in the left side view. Could this be from the major head trauma listed as the cause of death? It's very odd to me that that was the cause of death and yet there is no obvious trauma that we can see. What did the medical examiner see that we couldn't?

Well, this is everything I can think of for now. I think about this little guy all the time and hope he can get a name and even a biography soon.

Great observations!
I am a reader of John Douglas' books. He is a criminologist, and worked infamous cases, such as Jon Benet Ramsey. In his book, Cases That Haunt Us, he presented all the theories to famous cases. One was the Charles Lindbergh baby kidnapper, and how he believed that the baby's family was innocent because of how the body was discarded. The baby was tossed aside in the dirt carelessly, bringing him to believe it was a stranger to the baby vs. family who took him and killed him. He evaluated other cases as well that were similar, and the fact this little boy was wrapped up and put in a box makes me wonder if he was killed by family or someone that he knew and was closer to. It makes more sense then him being a victim of stranger. Just a thought!

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Very very powerful video of this little boy.Amazing Grace.Are there any new updates on this little boy in the box.Are they going to do isotope testing on him to help find out who he is?Can someone please find out?Are they going to have a vigil for him coming up in February?



America's Unknown Child "Boy In The Box" - YouTube

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Can anyone find out if there has been any updates or what they are doing now to find out his real name?

 

[PAJS]

This article, from 2007, mentions Bill Kelly, among others, who spent years working on this case.

http://articles.philly.com/2007-02-11/news/25239067_1_box-amateur-sleuths-case

Pat S

 

[Ms Suzanne]

They were all great.I believe alot of what Remington Bristow the medical examiner on the this little boy in the box's case.I believe he is the one that kept this little ones case alive.I believe this little boy in the box was in the system some where in Philadelphia or the surrounding counties in DHS custody,foster home or orphanage or institution some where.I am very very interested if anyone find out to please let me know about the Manayunk Pennsylvania boy that was put in that orphanage of who he was.I think he needs to be looked into again.

 

[daisymae]

I was so fascinated by this case a few months ago and was reading excerpts from a book online. If you haven't looked into this book you might want to check it out.
The Boy in the Box: The Unsolved Case of America's Unknown Child
By David Stout

It is an ebook and can be downloaded here I think or find it on ebay.

http://www.pdfebooksx.com/the-boy-i...d-case-of-americas-unknown-child-PDF4-739041/

The material written was very informative and hope to read it soon. This may have already been posted in the forum but I'm not sure! :seeya:

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I think something like this may have happened or DHS or some private agency was called in and removed the child or children from their home at some point.I just don't know what county.With him being so malnourished and sickly I honestly don't see how DHS Child Welfare was not called in.The neglect could have happened in an institution of some type also if he was put in one too.
Does anyone remember anything like this happening in Philadelphia or Pennsylvania in 1957 or 1956.

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_action=doc&p_docid=0F51AE4C25BF5B53&p_docnum=1

 

[Venom]

Would he have gone to public school? Wouldn't his teacher have noticed him missing from school?

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Would he have gone to public school? Wouldn't his teacher have noticed him missing from school?

Good question.He didn't have a vaccination mark.I think you were suppose to have one to get in school then.