J. J. in Phila
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In my defense, JJ started this by painting Patty as the doormat victim of RG. IMO, she's not. She is a girlfriend whose boyfriend either left her or died 6.5 years ago. What he really did though, was to call RG a " BULLY" without saying so.
IF PF was a " doormat", then RG stepped all over her. No, I don't believe it and I hope he doesn't believe it either. If he does, then he must intensely dislike the person he has written about for years- Ray Gricar.
No, but if he had been living with her, and making her pay all the bills, I would have thought so.
It is less a question of "liking" RFG than admiring his public service, which, excluding the Sandusky decision, was very good.
Another thing- which no one has ever addressed on here to the best of my knowledge, is this:
How many searches did PFo organize or take part in?
None, because they were water and air searches.
How many times was she seen in Lewisburg, or anywhere else, looking for Ray?
She was there on 4/17. She also was interviewed by the police and sat down with Buehner and McKnight for four hours.
And in almost 7 years,. STILL hasn't held a memorial service for him.
Nor for anyone else.
So, I really don't see the outpouring of loving actions post- disappearance, which is when we started to know SOMETHING about her.
She basically retreated, publicly, after the first emphasizing of LMW. I think it might be related to that.
We cannot think of these people, any of them, in only black and white!!! When JJ does that, I call him out on it. He had stopped doing it here, that's WHY I came back to this forum.
Today, I just wanted to show him that others can do the exact same thing in rebuttal. I'd never done so before, and I regret doing so about Patty.
I should have pointed out that what he was doing was calling RG a less than stellar person in saying Patty was used as his doormat.
He has never ever been a PF sympathizer.
Well, no, not a doormat, but the Mini had me puzzled. He bought it, put it her name, and then he drove it almost exclusively.
RFG wanted to travel, so PEF was willing to go with him. He wanted to retire, so she was willing. Their first date was a trip to Cleveland, his home town, where he took male friends. I don't see her as manipulative in any way.