PA - Shane Montgomery, 21, Philadelphia, 27 Nov 2014 #5

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http://www.manayunkcouncil.org/news/crier0405.html

Scroll down: read paragraph 4 & 5
Not a "young spot"....family oriented?
Granted, this might have been the original plans.
"She also let them know that their dumpsters should be emptied every day and locked up. No 4:30 a.m. pick up either."

"Curves members are parking on the tow path and ruining the flower bed. Kevin asked if the police can patrol that area more and give tickets."

"Joe Cahill continued to let us know that they are not there as a club as they will not have drink specials etc."

Funny, I seem to remember seeing pictures about drink specials. There's another Kildares lie, right from the start. (2004)
 
"She also let them know that their dumpsters should be emptied every day and locked up. No 4:30 a.m. pick up either."

"Curves members are parking on the tow path and ruining the flower bed. Kevin asked if the police can patrol that area more and give tickets."

"Joe Cahill continued to let us know that they are not there as a club as they will not have drink specials etc."

Funny, I seem to remember seeing pictures about drink specials. There's another Kildares lie, right from the start. (2004)

My dad remembers the neighbors complaining that the trash was picked up at early morning hours waking up residents. Now that a lot of the residents are renters we don't hear a lot about Main Street. I don't know when teaks was picked up from that evening but I personally observed two cops allowing the trash to picked up from Kildaire's early Friday morning about 10am after Shane disappeared this has always bothered me. I saw it with my own two eyes.
 
My dad remembers the neighbors complaining that the trash was picked up at early morning hours waking up residents. Now that a lot of the residents are renters we don't hear a lot about Main Street. I don't know when teaks was picked up from that evening but I personally observed two cops allowing the trash to picked up from Kildaire's early Friday morning about 10am after Shane disappeared this has always bothered me. I saw it with my own two eyes.

I know that bothers you Jonesy. You have mentioned that before. I agree...it does seem kinda careless
 
My dad remembers the neighbors complaining that the trash was picked up at early morning hours waking up residents. Now that a lot of the residents are renters we don't hear a lot about Main Street. I don't know when teaks was picked up from that evening but I personally observed two cops allowing the trash to picked up from Kildaire's early Friday morning about 10am after Shane disappeared this has always bothered me. I saw it with my own two eyes.
Another flub in this case. IMO. You never know if a wallet or something couldve been found.
 
Another flub in this case. IMO. You never know if a wallet or something couldve been found.

Very good point. If the card was on the floor in the bar due to a suspicious act, then it is quite possible that line of activity could have continued on the way out. Think about it. Debit card on the floor and keys in the river. Who knows what could have been discarded in between
 
Is the third floor an apartment or part of the club?
 
I am confusing myself and should have taken notes.
Is there any other video of Shane other than the bridge from behind Christie's?
 
Interesting picture was he led out the fire escape and not the front door

Thanks for posting that pic!!

If he was led out that way, could he have been pushed and hit his head or possibly stumbled down the stairs? We know from reviews bouncers are rough. I guess I never realized THAT was another exit? Is the Fire escape really how they have people leave or is their another back stairway exit as well.

I agree... Lots of dumpsters. Many things could have been thrown away and picked up before a search began. /:
 
Someone said it was a 30 second walk to the bridge and I had a hard time wrapping my head around that, but sure enough it is super close.
 
Maybe Shane was up on the third floor doing some even heavier drugs. Then left down the side fire escape, fell on his own accord and the whole night pulled together was a series of events that lead to him being very disoriented and fell into the river.
 
I am just vacillating so much. I read one theory about suicide and I lean toward it. I read another detailed theory about accident, and lean toward that. Am I the only one, or is anyone else so easily swayed like me? I know we have a great bunch of bright people here, who are throwing out some very convincing suggestions. but I can't remember being so undecided about a case before. When I followed Andrew Jarcyk's case, I absolutely felt foul play. I just did not see him committing suicide. I think if anyone else followed as closely as I did, they would agree. The suicide factors, for me, just was not there. After a month, Andrew was found in the Hudson. It was never actually said, but pretty much inferred it was suicide. In my heart, I still don't think they know what happened, and it will always eat at me as to what did cause this very much loved young man his final demise.
Not only do we have so little information regarding the events of that fateful night, but we know so little of Shane, the 21 yr old college student. I really, really wish that one if his friends or family members would come on here and tell us about him. In Andrew's case I learned a lot about him as Andrew the son, brother, friend, student, financial advisor etc. It is because of this that I was able to conclude my own feelings as to whether or not he harmed himself. Hey, I know we never really know a person, and sometimes people have hidden agendas or do things that just shock us. But with Shane, other than the additional social media accounts you all found, we know nothing. Simply, nothing. Is anyone else feeling as vacillated as I am, or am I the only one all over the board with this one?

This is EXACTLY the way I have been feeling. So much back and forth, I confuse myself! When the story first happened, I was of the foul play theory. I continued to feel that way for quite some time, especially with Kildare's different statements.
Then, I became more of the accident theory, when the keys were found. Until the last 4 days or so I didnt even consider the suicide theory.
With the whole debit card thing, I am back to the foul play theory. Like everyone else, I wish we had more information. It's gotten colder here over the last couple of days, and I am worried because we are heading into some really cold months here. I would think that would hamper divers efforts.
About the only thing I am sure of is that I hope Shane will be found.
 
I was over on Paul's thread and saw that several of you had been there and commented too. Thank you for that. You guys are the best!!!!
 
I am confusing myself and should have taken notes.
Is there any other video of Shane other than the bridge from behind Christie's?

No, the video showing him behind Christie's crossing the small bridge is all they have. At least as far as we all know
 
And the 1:50 time again.......19 minutes before being seen on surveillance. :thinking:

Speculation:

Could Shane's keys have been taken from him in Kildare's and his venture in to the parking lot was an attempt to locate the individual whom he was told had his keys or he was told someone tossed them in to the river and he attempted to locate/retrieve?

Was there a long-time-brewing 'neighborhood-kids' rivalry between Shane and another neighborhood 'kid'?

Again, just presenting scenarios for thought, I've not changed my position on this case... not yet.
 
I apologize if this has already been discussed. Do we know how Shane's debit card wound up being left at Kildaire's?
 

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