Paris Hilton to serve time part 2

[JBean]

The "good time" credits are federally mandated - to ease overcrowding and encourage good behavior. At this time for jails it's each 4 days served = 6 days credit. Same thing with the "check-in" credit for the exact days starting at midnight. Basically if you are "in custody" at midnight you get credited for that entire day - even if you are actually there only 30 minutes of that "day". Prison sentences are mandated by the same type of "rules" - not sure if it's the 4=6 for prison though?

Prisoners (jail or prison) can also "work" and they earn "extra time off credit" for working as well. This IS discretionary. Paris cannot "work" to earn additional credit (per the judge) but the judge cannot prohibit her from getting the federally mandated "good time" credit. "Good Time" is NOT discretionary - no judge can change that. Paris also gets credit for any "days" she spent in jail prior.

Thus a 45 day sentence gets reduced to 23 (or fewer) days for Paris and ANY prisoner who is reasonably well behaved. Other prisoners who are eligible to WORK also get additional "time served" credits - reducing THEIR sentences even further. It is not the Sheriff OR the judge who sets the "good time" rules and Paris is not getting any special treatment.

And BTW - Michelle Rodriguez spent 2 days in the same jail for a DUI probation violation - and the second arrest she was on probation, her license was suspended and she WAS DRUNK - Paris was not. And MR WAS admitted to the special needs cell block (same as Paris), not into the general population. ALL celebrities are automatically "special needs" - it isn't their choice - it's because they cannot be properly protected from angry, violent, ill or disturbed inmates who might be in the general population. They become a target just by being there and the jail does NOT want a Mel Gibson or Michelle Rodgriguez or Paris Hilton to get injured (or killed) or get a staph infection or other disease while in their custody..it works the same everywhere - even Martha Stewart went into a special cell block with inmates who could be trusted.

My Opinion

The good time-work time amount really is up to the sheriff. That is why he has created tiered levels, with 10% being typical time served for low level offenders all the way up to the 100 % time served for more violent offenders.
There are really just standards. her in the OC, it is 30% reduction across the board for most offenders in jail, just the good time/work time program that is in effect and works down here. Inmates can work and/or behave well for the same amount of credit..30%.
This is the frustration and political part of this argument. the judge hands down a sentence, but the sheriff can apply the good time credits at his discretion due to overcrowding in CA jails, with LA jails being among the worst. The judges are frustrated that the sheriff can reduce the sentences, but the sheriff can do that based on overcrowding. The Judges do not like it.
The difference in PH's case was that the judge specifically forbade certain things that are avilable to other probation violaters, which is part of the debate.She was only able to get 50% good time work time credits, where any regular Joe would have been eligible for 90% reduction and release after 4 or 5 days.While the sheriff has the latitude to release low level offenders after they have served 10% of their sentence. he could not do that in this case, when normally he can.That is why he felt he had the power to do it and the judge said not in this case.
These are 2 powerful factions in a power struggle.

 

[JBean]

Here is the breakdown of the LA County Early Release Program that Baca has in place.:
100% of sentence- Serious felons
50%- midlevel offenders
25%-prostitution
10%-low level offenders.
PH is considered low level.

This PC by Baca really is the most informative.
He does make it pretty clear that her problems are psycholgical in nature and not physical ailments.
He also manages to get a few of his political beefs in there and some of it is a political statement, but the facts regarding PH's incarceration are accurate, IMO.

http://video.knbc.com/player/?id=117640

 

[Tom'sGirl]

Did you see how Villaraigoso announced his separation very timely?
No one was paying any attention.

Now, will he change his name back to Villar ?:crazy:

 

[JBean]

Now, will he change his name back to Villar ?:crazy:

I don't know but he is moving out of the Mayor's mansion. So how does that work?!?
The wife stays? LMAO I have to do some research.

 

[Tricia]

....And BTW - Michelle Rodriguez spent 2 days in the same jail for a DUI probation violation - and the second arrest she was on probation, her license was suspended and she WAS DRUNK - Paris was not.....

My Opinion

I thought she only spent two hours...not two days... Anyone know for sure?

 

[southcitymom]

I thought she only spent two hours...not two days... Anyone know for sure?

She spent less than a day - I think 2-4 hours.

 

[Tricia]

Now, will he change his name back to Villar ?:crazy:

Who is this person and do I like him or dislike him...please someone, let me know

 

[Tom'sGirl]

I don't know but he is moving out of the Mayor's mansion. So how does that work?!?
The wife stays? LMAO I have to do some research.

I know, strange to say the least :crazy:

Guess he moved back to the area where he grew up I think

 

[FlowerChild]

The parole/probation/release law is FEDERAL in nature and mandates how all prisoners will be treated and what minimum sentences must be served in each case. "Good Time" is a part of this and at Paris' level of offense (non violent) is a MINIMUM of 30% - the 4=6 rule. House arrest and work are two other federally approved methods of reducing the time spent in jail or prison but are discretionary not mandated. The ONLY way an eligible prisoner can be denied the mandated 30% "good time credit" is if they have committed infractions that are subject to a formal hearing and result in a pre-determined formal disciplinary action. Some infractions can result in criminal charges while the person is incarcerated - thus reducing their "good time" by adding additional time to their sentence.

For those who are interested in the FEDERAL LAWS that control ALL prisoners here is a pretty simple run-down of the history.

http://www.usdoj.gov/uspc/history.htm

BTW -At her level of offense Paris Hilton would not have served ANY jail time in most cities. She would have been put on house arrest and required to do X days/hours of community service or work crew time. Here in Dallas the less educated and more risky offenders do housekeeping crew duties and road crew trash a lot while more educated persons who have no risks associated do service at the libraries, clinics, hospitals, rehabs etc. It usually takes 3 DUI offenses (not just violating a DUI parole) and lousy public defenders for someone to do ANY jail time. Sad but true and the poorer the person the more likely that they will end up in jail for ANY offense. Our system is designed to keep the highest "producing" members of society out of jail or prison. Once a person is incarcerated they go from being a productive, self supporting, financially contributing member of society to a resource sucking, cost generating liability. Only those low level offenders who's ability to earn, contribute and pay taxes is below the local minimums end up in jail for most non-felony/non-violent offenses.

My Opinion

 

[JBean]

I thought she only spent two hours...not two days... Anyone know for sure?

I recall it as being a couple hours. Which is time served of one day.

 

[southcitymom]

.....it's basically a sad state of our society that we're almost wishing her harm.....

I agree with this wholeheartedly. I know jail is a necessary evil, but to hear people wishing for and delighted that others are going to jail makes me scratch my head.

I wouldn't wish prison on my worst enemy.

 

[Tom'sGirl]

Who is this person and do I like him or dislike him...please someone, let me know

Los Angeles Mayor, Antononio Villaraigosa combined his given last name of Villar, with his wifes maiden name and did so legally. Most in our parts can't seem to get the hang of pronouncing his last name which strikes me funny.

Strange, but fact!

 

[FlowerChild]

I thought she only spent two hours...not two days... Anyone know for sure?

I believe she did what Paris did - went in one day, got released the next - time served = 2 days. Basically she went in one night, went thru booking and was released the next morning - all she saw was a holding cell in the booking area.

Anyway her result was 2 days jail time credited even though she was only there a few hours...

 

[JBean]

The parole/probation/release law is FEDERAL in nature and mandates how all prisoners will be treated and what minimum sentences must be served in each case. "Good Time" is a part of this and at Paris' level of offense (non violent) is a MINIMUM of 30% - the 4=6 rule. House arrest and work are two other federally approved methods of reducing the time spent in jail or prison but are discretionary not mandated. The ONLY way an eligible prisoner can be denied the mandated 30% "good time credit" is if they have committed infractions that are subject to a formal hearing and result in a pre-determined formal disciplinary action. Some infractions can result in criminal charges while the person is incarcerated - thus reducing their "good time" by adding additional time to their sentence.

For those who are interested in the FEDERAL LAWS that control ALL prisoners here is a pretty simple run-down of the history.

http://www.usdoj.gov/uspc/history.htm

BTW -At her level of offense Paris Hilton would not have served ANY jail time in most cities. She would have been put on house arrest and required to do X days/hours of community service or work crew time. Here in Dallas the less educated and more risky offenders do housekeeping crew duties and road crew trash a lot while more educated persons who have no risks associated do service at the libraries, clinics, hospitals, rehabs etc. It usually takes 3 DUI offenses (not just violating a DUI parole) and lousy public defenders for someone to do ANY jail time. Sad but true and the poorer the person the more likely that they will end up in jail for ANY offense. Our system is designed to keep the highest "producing" members of society out of jail or prison. Once a person is incarcerated they go from being a productive, self supporting, financially contributing member of society to a resource sucking, cost generating liability. Only those low level offenders who's ability to earn, contribute and pay taxes is below the local minimums end up in jail for most non-felony/non-violent offenses.

My Opinion

Thanks for all that info FC. IT is really interesting.
I can only speak to the CA jail system. Since LA County jail system is the largest in the USA and so overcrowded it has has to use the Early release Program, which goes like this:

100% of sentence- Serious felons
50%- midlevel offenders
25%-prostitution
10%-low level offenders.
PH is considered low level.

 

[JBean]

I believe she did what Paris did - went in one day, got released the next - time served = 2 days. Basically she went in one night, went thru booking and was released the next morning - all she saw was a holding cell in the booking area.

Anyway her result was 2 days jail time credited even though she was only there a few hours...

Maybe she went in before midnight and then released after midnight, which would be cedit for 2 days served.

 

[Tom'sGirl]

I believe she did what Paris did - went in one day, got released the next - time served = 2 days. Basically she went in one night, went thru booking and was released the next morning - all she saw was a holding cell in the booking area.

Anyway her result was 2 days jail time credited even though she was only there a few hours...

Released the same day...........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Rodriguez

 

[JBean]

Released the same day...........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Rodriguez

You are the best fact checker!

 

[FlowerChild]

Maybe she went in before midnight and then released after midnight, which would be credit for 2 days served.

Yes, I remember wondering about it at the time and looking it up - she went in before midnight, was released a few hours later AFTER midnight - credited with 2 days jail time or 10% of her sentence. I think she had to do community service time as well - don't think she did house arrest? I am not sure Wikipedia is 100% accurate - I did check at the time and yes, physical time - 1 day - credited time..2 days.

 

[JBean]

Yes, I remember wondering about it at the time and looking it up - she went in before midnight, was released a few hours later AFTER midnight - credited with 2 days jail time or 10% of her sentence. I think she had to do community service time as well - don't think she did house arrest? .

I really am not familiar with any of her adventures.
Okay I have to admit this as well. I have no idea who she is.

 

[southcitymom]

I really am not familiar with any of her adventures.
Okay I have to admit this as well. I have no idea who she is.

She's on LOST. She got two DUIs and broke probation and spent a few hours in the pokey.