Penn State's athletic director plus ex-Paterno assistant charged in child sex case

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It seems we will find out in the coming days. Joe Pa initially indicating he would finish out the season, and then suddenly tonight the announcement that he's canned? Indicates we might need to fasten our seatbelts. That grand jury presentment might be just the tip of the iceberg?
 
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Heard Joe was fired, fully recant previous tweet! Didn't have full story. #admitwhenYoumakemistakes
31 minutes ago

<modsnip>. imo. I felt like I have to post his recant, he spoke before he knew the story apparently.
 
Is it even more disgusting, horrific acts or does it deal with someone knowing something for a long time?
Honestly I have no idea but I imagine the leak is coming from someone having trouble dealing with it. This is all IMO.
 
ESPN just switched over to an NBA news conference but CNN national now has live coverage - showing video of the students in the streets.
 
Have also heard that there are now upwards of 20 victims that have come forward in the wake of this all hitting the fan.

Wonder how many more there are?

Sadly, I don't think we'll ever know the actual # of victims this pedophile had, but I believe the # we will know will be more than any of us want to think about. This is a horrible tragedy for all of the victims and it is also sad to see Joe Paterno's career end this way, but it had to happen and I applaud Penn State for finally attempting to do the right thing. However, as tragic as all of this is, there's a part of me that thinks this could actually be a good thing for victims of sexual abuse in the long run. Hopefully, this very public discussion will make victims feel more comfortable to come forward to report abuse and also help remove some of the stigma they feel as victims. We've already seen how many victims of Sandusky's have come forward in the last couple of days that were previously unknown and the only reason we know about them now is because they finally knew they weren't going to be ridiculed or not believed.
 
Is it even more disgusting, horrific acts or does it deal with someone knowing something for a long time?

my thoughts exactly.....although i also wondered if it might have to do with a missing former prosecutor, but i don't guess that's likely.

here's a question. if you guys have posted about this on fb, have you gotten much reaction? i posted about it and the ODDEST thing is, nobody said a word! that never happens so i was just sort of puzzled by it.
 
I live in Iowa now, but I am a huge college football fan of a team in the state I am originally from. Our stadium sits 56k, but unless we are doing really well, we sit between 35k-45k. I've always dreamed of having that college football culture where the entire state is behind the team. But after watching how the Penn State fans have reacted, I'll take college football being a niche in my state instead of some creepy blind loyalty thing where the Dear Leader can do no wrong.
 
Here's what I've been wondering tonight and just might add some insight to what Dr. Fessel has said. All these victims - young boys - years ago - having to deal with what's been done to them and keeping quiet and all those nasty feelings that come with that.
I've been wondering if any of the victims have tried to (or even successfully) committed suicide?
 
*unsure first name* Carroll reporting in by phone to CNN now that as many as 12 new victims have come forward since Tuesday.

Just caught the tail end of that--hoping someone has the whole interview?
 
Here's what I've been wondering tonight and just might add some insight to what Dr. Fessel has said. All these victims - young boys - years ago - having to deal with what's been done to them and keeping quiet and all those nasty feelings that come with that.
I've been wondering if any of the victims have tried to (or even successfully) committed suicide?

i believe that is entirely likely. and i also believe that many people, including paterno, will not find news of it surprising.

i so hope it isn't true.
 
my thoughts exactly.....although i also wondered if it might have to do with a missing former prosecutor, but i don't guess that's likely.

here's a question. if you guys have posted about this on fb, have you gotten much reaction? i posted about it and the ODDEST thing is, nobody said a word! that never happens so i was just sort of puzzled by it.

I haven't posted anything on FB, but Twitter is blowing up with it. My timeline is nothing but this.
 
There comes the day when it's time to pay the piper. I do have to wonder how many sleepless nights Joe spent worrying about the children who were victims. He knew about them. He said he wishes he had "done more". I do not believe him.

As for Sandusky, he is what he is. The same as a rabid dog. A rabid dog is recognized for what it is and stopped in its tracks. Sandusky should have been stopped. Paterno had the power to do exactly that and he made the choice to do nothing.......

I wonder how many sleepless fear-filled nights those kids had.........
 
Once again JoePa wanted to have it his way. By announcing he would retire at the end of the season, he thought he could handle the events. It was never his decision as to when he left. It has always been up to the University officials.

I believe JoePa didn't go any further when told about Sandusky's behavior in the shower because he wanted to protect the school and the football program in chief. No way did he want this made public.

If Jerry Sandusky had been leaking plays and game plans to other teams in the Big 12, JoePa would certainly had followed up when he found out. If Jerry was stealing equipment or money or hurting the program, Joe would have been all over him.

The men who did not bring this to law enforcement were protecting themselves. They are cowards and cared nothing about the young boys being harmed.

I am glad JoePa has been fired. Mainly it is time for Penn State to take this all seriously. Coach Joe, the AD, University President and others let go should go into hiding and not show their face or voice their opinions on this for a long time. Let the legal system take its course in this horrific crime. Imagine the civil law suits that will no doubt come down on the school in the future. The worst is yet to come.

I love college football. I am glued to the tv every Saturday. But dam it, a football program will never be more important than a child's wellbeing.

just my O
 
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Heard Joe was fired, fully recant previous tweet! Didn't have full story. #admitwhenYoumakemistakes
31 minutes ago

Idiot. imo. I felt like I have to post his recant, he spoke before he knew the story apparently.

he was probably in the hot tub, distracted.

<modsnip>.
 
There's been some talk about the financial impact this will all have on Penn State. The millions of $$$$ in lawsuits, NCAA sanctions (possibly), etc etc.

Here's a question:
How do you feel if Penn State gets mired down in all this money-wise, that the government or Dept of Ed offers to bail them out? Should they?
 
It is just so hard for me to accept that ALL of these men failed in one of the most basic principles of education--in loco parentis. IMO every single one of these men had an absolute moral responsibility to report what they saw or suspected to law enforcement, and I don't mean to campus police.

McQuerie, good god. You made out ok in the GJ presentment. But how did you hold this sick secret knowledge inside you all this time?

*Ynot stomps off and sits on her own hands*
 
But you see - Dr. Phil talking about what parents should do to protect their children. He said if you have someone that wants "to help" or whatever - that you do a background check on them. How would THAT have helped in this case? It wouldn't - not at all. Sandusky was an asst. coach for Penn State - Paterno's right arm, if you will. What would a background check have pulled up on him anyway?

This guy CREATED the perfect setup and execution with his "Second Mile" foundation.

Makes you wonder what his wife must be thinking tonight - don't it? It was her house too - she knew about that bedroom in the basement and that yound boys frequently spent the night there.
 
There's been some talk about the financial impact this will all have on Penn State. The millions of $$$$ in lawsuits, NCAA sanctions (possibly), etc etc.

Here's a question:
How do you feel if Penn State gets mired down in all this money-wise, that the government or Dept of Ed offers to bail them out? Should they?

NO! Absolutely not. Penn State made a lot of money off this football program and at the expense of several victims. Penn State can pay or go down!

Salem
 
I live in Iowa now, but I am a huge college football fan of a team in the state I am originally from. Our stadium sits 56k, but unless we are doing really well, we sit between 35k-45k. I've always dreamed of having that college football culture where the entire state is behind the team. But after watching how the Penn State fans have reacted, I'll take college football being a niche in my state instead of some creepy blind loyalty thing where the Dear Leader can do no wrong.

Prior to this news I was on one side of the craziest stories in college football and now the ridiculously stupid things that have gone on with our fans, including the poisoning of 150 year old oaks trees, look so silly and unimportant. I live Auburn football and we take football pretty seriously, but I could never imagine confusing football and real life like some at PSU are doing. No, I'm not one of the rednecks on last night's ESPN documentary, but I am married to an Alabama fan and that means I'm in a "mixed" couple according to ESPN. :floorlaugh:
 
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