Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #15

[ks1]

Haven't read all of the posts so this may be explained already, if so, sorry! The video in the casino and at the hotel show her in black pants, but the pictures of her clothing show a pair of blue jeans. She didn't take a bag into the hotel so is my monitor making the jeans look black?

 

[Eileen O'B]

I hope we'll hear about the employee re time of arguing...I recall a GVS interview/videotape (somewhere) where Greta is at a similar room at the hotel in Peru. Greta described the rooms as like a "tomb." She was referring to the walls being able to block out sound, and that the walls were even covered with tile.

Are the walls really covered with tiles? or is what we are seeing painted cinder block? Does anyone know? In the long run it's probably not important in that having your head smashed into either would be equally bad.

 

[Patty G]

Are the walls really covered with tiles? or is what we are seeing painted cinder block? Does anyone know? In the long run it's probably not important in that having your head smashed into either would be equally bad.

Here is Greta inside a room similar to Joran's and talking about how solid the walls are etc.,

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4241298/joran-timeline-key-to-peru-murder-motive

 

[suzihawk]

Good Morning America just now...

John Cajones at Castro Castro says JVS has decided not to give any interviews unless he's paid for them. (I guess nothing ever changes, eh?)

Says some of the other prisoners say his crime might be seen as a perverse 'badge of honor'.

Says Anita VDS is expected to arrive in Lima (perhaps later today) and part of the reason for her visit is to find him a new lawyer.

Promoting the upcoming interview with ex-girlfriend, Melody Granadillo. (Just another person trying to cash in on their 15 minutes of fame, IMO.)

 

[Patty G]

O/T

Just getting caught up, and I have to say something.

Why did only one member of WS have the courage to tell PattyG what a gorgeous son she has! She went through all of the trouble to put the photo up for us to see.

PattyG, your son looks like a male "super model" or a movie star. Thank you for sharing. Dog is a very good looking dog too! What a lovely family you have. I am certain you are very proud!

Thank you for the compliment regarding my son and his pride and joy "Shorty".

The only reason I stuck my son's photo in there was because of the way Jean was reporting about Joran. It sounded like Joran was exceptionally tall and I thought "what", I have a son who is bigger.

Per Jean: "And first thing I noticed, he`s really tall.

I mean he`s tall and he`s big. Now he`s from the Netherlands. And I understand that a lot of tall men are in the Netherlands, but he looked especially big."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1006/17/ng.01.html

 

[Eileen O'B]

Here is Greta inside a room similar to Joran's and talking about how solid the walls are etc.,

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4241298/joran-timeline-key-to-peru-murder-motive

I can't get it to play, but if she said it was tile that's the answer I needed. Thanks much.

 

[Sanny]

Haven't read all of the posts so this may be explained already, if so, sorry! The video in the casino and at the hotel show her in black pants, but the pictures of her clothing show a pair of blue jeans. She didn't take a bag into the hotel so is my monitor making the jeans look black?

Stephany was definitely wearing a black top and black pants....in both casino and hotel videos.....and she certainly wasn't carrying anything so were did those jeans come from???

 

[Patty G]

I can't get it to play, but if she said it was tile that's the answer I needed. Thanks much.

Here is the transcript to that video.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,594744,00.html

 

[Patty G]

Good Morning America just now...

John Cajones at Castro Castro says JVS has decided not to give any interviews unless he's paid for them. (I guess nothing ever changes, eh?)

Says some of the other prisoners say his crime might be seen as a perverse 'badge of honor'.

Says Anita VDS is expected to arrive in Lima (perhaps later today) and part of the reason for her visit is to find him a new lawyer.

Promoting the upcoming interview with ex-girlfriend, Melody Guardia. (Just another person trying to cash in on their 15 minutes of fame, IMO.)

For sure, one of the news stations will pay for that interview. :crazy:

 

[texaslb218]

Stephany was definitely wearing a black top and black pants....in both casino and hotel videos.....and she certainly wasn't carrying anything so were did those jeans come from???

I don't know why, but a lot of students have extra clothes in their car. A pair of jeans, a hoodie, an extra shirt. I'm sure it's for avoiding home and parents at times.

 

[Sanny]

I can't get it to play, but if she said it was tile that's the answer I needed. Thanks much.

I just replayed the Fox tape.....the reporter Greta is talking to mentioned that
the walls are concrete but have tiles over them......(perhaps the tiles were put there to make the room more attractive) however those walls prevented anyone from hearing what went on in that room.

Reported stated that Joran left the room with 'empty coffee cups' and returned with the same empty cups thereby he was working on his alibi.

It's then that he goes to the desk to have the clerk open the door for him.

What a he is. IMO Castro Castro is too good for this murdering sociopath.

 

[Sanny]

I don't know why, but a lot of students have extra clothes in their car. A pair of jeans, a hoodie, an extra shirt. I'm sure it's for avoiding home and parents at times.

If the jean were in her car (which was found by family in an alley) why were they photographed with her top? How did they get into that room?

 

[LookingUp]

Talking about how tall Joran is. WTH! My son is 6'5 and 290!!!

Handsome son there Patty G ... you did GOOD!

 

[la_cavalière]

Can someone please provide the link to the photos of Stephany's clothes? TYIA!

 

[Alisha8191]

JVDS may have planned to kill SF somewhere other than the hotel or in another way that wouldn't have resulted in leaving so much evidence behind and something may have disrupted that plan. Maybe he didn't expect a fight from SF or maybe he just simply thought he could get away with anything and then realized that he was in over his head and then had to come up with a way to make it look like he didn't do it.

I personally can't get past the May 30th date being that it is exactly 5 years from the day Natalee went missing, so I still hold to the belief that this was premeditated murder. It's way too much of a coincidence. And again, as it's been mentioned, JVDS has a history of lying and changing stories. He tried it initially in the SF case but there was too much evidence stacked up against him.

I've been praying for the lies to be exposed and the truth to be told for the NH & SF case. But, you know, it may not ever happen. Either way, I pray that the victims families will have peace and that young women everywhere will learn how to to protect themselves from these types of situations. For example, I still see young women, running alone, at night, with their HEADPHONES ON! Every time I see them I pray for God to protect them.

Anyhow, goodnight Websleuthers and God bless! :heart:

Maybe he told her about killing Natalee then told her that he was going to kill her, she fought him but lost.

 

[Beatrice]

Sasha is the girl who had the formal party w/ photos of all of the PIMPs in attendance. pretty sure it was a quinceanera (sorry, I can't do a tilde above the 'n'), celebrating her 15th b-day. my best recollection is that she is a younger half-sister of JvdS' best friend back then (Freddy)

Thank you! So, it seems Joran had 2 girlfriends who were "underage" and their partents did not approve of them dating. Sasha and Rika.

 

[Patty G]

Good Morning America just now...

John Cajones at Castro Castro says JVS has decided not to give any interviews unless he's paid for them. (I guess nothing ever changes, eh?)

Says some of the other prisoners say his crime might be seen as a perverse 'badge of honor'.

Says Anita VDS is expected to arrive in Lima (perhaps later today) and part of the reason for her visit is to find him a new lawyer.

Promoting the upcoming interview with ex-girlfriend, Melody Guardia. (Just another person trying to cash in on their 15 minutes of fame, IMO.)

Here is the video to your transcript.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/ins...&clipId=10950277&playlistId=-1&cid=siteplayer

 

[Patty G]

Can someone please provide the link to the photos of Stephany's clothes? TYIA!

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/71293/2010/06/exclusive--joran-van-der-sloot#image-load

 

[LookingUp]

I still think she was already dead when he went out for coffee; and the two cups were a ruse. MOO

That sounds plausible to me. Otherwise, wouldn't the striped shirt have been full of blood when he left the room at 8:13:34 for coffee?

 

[LookingUp]

Has anyone heard the time between the moment they entered the rm & he went for coffee? Just curious about how long until he killed her after they got inside. I say immediately...?

Hi ... don't know if this was answered for you yet Danie? I'm still catching up. But, looking at the Radaronline photos ... there was a 2hr39:39sec interim between them entering the room together (5:33:55) and him leaving (8:13:34)for coffee.