POI: Michael Pak

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That's an interesting theory, what type.. phone communication? What makes you guys think this? If that was the case why would he tell them JT's skull was on OP and still dump there for ten years?
 
Does Pak have any connection to Long Island at all? Early on someone found that Paks number on Shannan's phonebill showed on google registered to a house on LI. Anyone remember this? Yes Shannan ran from Pak...According to the version of events we've been told but who really knows. The fact is Shannan's fear ORIGINATED inside the house with the the drifter and brewer. It's my suspicion that Pak might have been involved in some type of deal with the drifter/brewer that Shannan wasn't aware of and when she somehow found out this is when she freaked. I have a suspicion that the drifter and Pak may have been previously acquainted. Megan's mom claimed Cruz knows what happened to Megan but won't say...this brings to mind a similar scenario where the girls may have been "sold out" by their pimps
I have always felt that Pak was in a deal with at least Brewer. To me a John having a driver could make a girl let her guards down a little.

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Sorry but I don't think M. Pak was driving Brewer around to pick up street walkers lol. But is there a connection between Pak and Drifter/Brewer that we don't know about it? what did he do before he started driving her in 2009?

By the way here is an article about Cherri Bombs, I can't read it but some of you should be able to. http://www.newsday.com/long-island/...worker-charged-with-insurance-fraud-1.2048828
 
Its driving me nuts because I can't find an interview that Michael Pak did.....it was very early on...it looked like he was being interviewed in a bar somewhere...he had his sunglasses on..

The dude clearly said he got a call from the client and DROVE BACK....he wasn't sitting there playing games on his phone...he left her there..

Now that the Suffolk County Police Department as a whole and their investigations since 2012..including the Gilgo murders is being looked into....I hope someone gets off the you know and what and properly investigates this guy....Is he even who he says he is....I'd be taking a very good look at his passport. I'd be taking a very close look at anything he did prior to Shannons murder and since....shady!!!

and the client...why wasn't he prosecuted...it's a joke...maybe they should check out the client and see if the client has friends who associate with people of influence (state senators - for one)...sheesh...the whole thing is pathetic...You have one victims boyfriend that can be found on MSM who admits to being involved in "Shakedowns" where they blackmail people caught in precarious situations...what was his name...Brodie...ahhh I hope the FBI are all over this....you can't have that many victims and have no clue....not possible!!.....stinks of cover up....
 
Sorry but I don't think M. Pak was driving Brewer around to pick up street walkers lol. But is there a connection between Pak and Drifter/Brewer that we don't know about it? what did he do before he started driving her in 2009?

By the way here is an article about Cherri Bombs, I can't read it but some of you should be able to. http://www.newsday.com/long-island/...worker-charged-with-insurance-fraud-1.2048828

Lindsay.....I don't think that's what anyone is implying BBM.....I think PAK was a man for Hire....willing to take on any job where the $$$ came from. He was convicted for his role in a human trafficking scheme ...where he laughably suggested he didn't know anything other than he was helping to be a translator for the lady... who knew of him...had him as a contact would be more interesting...I'd love a look at his phone records...

So Mr Helpful is a translator....Mmmm human trafficking...and a driver for an escort that ends up dead amongst a graveyard of other deceased escorts.... and what else do we know about him....Not a lot??.....why...

The client..... we don't Know much about him either former financial adviser (where)...former Bouncer (where)......client has or is related to someone who has many rental properties (where are those rental properties).... they are the last ones with her - we should know so much more...This case has been so messed up over the years with pollution of conspiracy.....she was last known to be in the company of these two.....the focus should be put back where it belongs...

Go through this guys phone records for the past 12 months....and Paks...

And if anyone knows where Mr Brewer used to work as a bouncer can they let me know the name of the establishment he was a bouncer at...it appears a few weeks before Ambers death...she was a hot topic on some of these review pages...lots of angst against her and some very out there threats....a particular group of individuals seem to have targeted Amber..one of those members of a special club..group...arggg..degenerate misfortunates that cant form normal loving relations with others without having to depart with their $$$$$ was a former bouncer apparently....the others...ohhh real estate agent...met ups calling themselves the Carney Construction Crew...ohhh can't be bothered...What a joke they are...they left themselves wide open by their egos and their post that still remain in cyberspace....

Ha...the last laugh is they aren't now under an umbrella of protection...I wonder which mouse will squirm first...should be interesting how the next 12 months plays out....truth is IMO if you rat out on the true devil now.. In the long run you'll get a reduced sentence......these girls didn't do anything to deserve what happened to them....I hope the FBI pulls no punches as puts on a full task force to find the individual. Or group behind these murders...

They also need to re look at the chad Johnston case.....
 
Puggle, the documentary your referring to was removed from youtube. It was aired on a&e. It was called Americas Serial Killer.
 
That's an interesting theory, what type.. phone communication? What makes you guys think this? If that was the case why would he tell them JT's skull was on OP and still dump there for ten years?

Phone, probably. I don't think he told about JT's skull or anything so specific. Didn't Dormer hint as much in that Arrow security series?


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I don't remember that. I have repeatedly stated the LISK has phone OCD and I think this will be his downfall. LE should highly publicize they are looking for someone who can't stop calling people over and over and over, especially girls. Publicize they are looking for someone like this around Massapequa. It's a very interesting theory that the SK contacted LE back during the Manorville dumps. If it was on the phone would they have a recording, are all calls to the police recorded? This is one of the reason I found the Mushroom hunter so suspicious who reported the Manorville male in Nov 03. He claimed he didn't report it for two weeks and then started having nightmares, but I wonder if LISK just couldn't help inserting himself into the investigation. Unlikely I know.

Remember he talked to Amber on the phone for a while, this stands out to me. I don't know that many guys who like to talk on the phone
 
Remember he talked to Amber on the phone for a while

I don't remember LISK talking on the phone with Amber.

I remember a piece of s..t called Dave Schaller talking to the camera, telling a highly questionable story that doesn't make sense, a story which was debunked here on WS.
 
I don't remember LISK talking on the phone with Amber.

I remember a piece of s..t called Dave Schaller talking to the camera, telling a highly questionable story that doesn't make sense, a story which was debunked here on WS.

How was the story of Amber talking to the John on Dave's phone who picked her up around the corner debunked?
 
And what am I supposed to debunk in the first place?

Your first message says "He (LISK) talked to Amber" in your second message it becomes "Amber talking to the John on Dave's phone who picked her up around the corner"..
 
So "we" debunked or you debunked? Dave claimed Amber spoke to a John using his phone who she talked to for a while and then was picked up around the corner. He claimed she wouldn't tell him who it was, which says to me it was someone Schaller knows, why else would it matter? He also said I think she deleted the number from his phone, which is very strange. He ALSO claimed that he thinks it was the same man who tried to get Amber to meet him at the Holiday Inn Megan disappeared from. Amber went out around the corner and never came back. If the John she spoke to on the phone wasn't the LISK, why didn't she come home?
 
Debunk= Schaller lying

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?284261-Cell-Phones-and-LISK&p=11049834#post11049834

To kill a Mockingbird PM'ed it was a Medicaid card or something.. I infer she had her things with her.


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...eclared-an-accident-2&p=11888587#post11888587



Though you can always believe Dave is telling the truth.

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“Oh, okay,” said Mari. “And my daughter’s cell phone and purse have never been found.”
“Megan’s hasn’t been found, neither,” said Lorraine.
“My sister had her phone,” said Kim, “but four people worked off of that phone, too. After my
sister went missing, there were still phone calls with girls using her ad.

Lost Girls - Robert Kolker


I don't know what Kim exactly means.
 
So "we" debunked or you debunked? Dave claimed Amber spoke to a John using his phone who she talked to for a while and then was picked up around the corner. He claimed she wouldn't tell him who it was, which says to me it was someone Schaller knows, why else would it matter? He also said I think she deleted the number from his phone, which is very strange. He ALSO claimed that he thinks it was the same man who tried to get Amber to meet him at the Holiday Inn Megan disappeared from. Amber went out around the corner and never came back. If the John she spoke to on the phone wasn't the LISK, why didn't she come home?
One of my theory is because she and the other girls were being stalked and he followed them from their last call.


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Debunk= Schaller lying

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?284261-Cell-Phones-and-LISK&p=11049834#post11049834

To kill a Mockingbird PM'ed it was a Medicaid card or something.. I infer she had her things with her.


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...eclared-an-accident-2&p=11888587#post11888587



Though you can always believe Dave is telling the truth.

EDIT
“Oh, okay,” said Mari. “And my daughter’s cell phone and purse have never been found.”
“Megan’s hasn’t been found, neither,” said Lorraine.
“My sister had her phone,” said Kim, “but four people worked off of that phone, too. After my
sister went missing, there were still phone calls with girls using her ad.

Lost Girls - Robert Kolker


I don't know what Kim exactly means.

Schaller (or someone close to him) was pimping someone else? That's what it sounds like to me.


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I don't remember that. I have repeatedly stated the LISK has phone OCD and I think this will be his downfall. LE should highly publicize they are looking for someone who can't stop calling people over and over and over, especially girls. Publicize they are looking for someone like this around Massapequa. It's a very interesting theory that the SK contacted LE back during the Manorville dumps. If it was on the phone would they have a recording, are all calls to the police recorded? This is one of the reason I found the Mushroom hunter so suspicious who reported the Manorville male in Nov 03. He claimed he didn't report it for two weeks and then started having nightmares, but I wonder if LISK just couldn't help inserting himself into the investigation. Unlikely I know.

Remember he talked to Amber on the phone for a while, this stands out to me. I don't know that many guys who like to talk on the phone

This is a great idea. I'm thinking of professions where people like to talk...sales. It can also earn big money, involve traveling (say from LI into the city), and has unsupervised time driving around during the day.

If LISK is organized enough to maintain a white collar profession, this could be what he does for work.


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Schaller (or someone close to him) was pimping someone else? That's what it sounds like to me.


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I mean “My sister had her phone"
 
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