Possible Significance of the Neighbors Names?

[wedavis]

While we are back on the ZFG topic: Has it been discussed whether Casey mentioned that ZFG had a key to the A's home in an attempt to cover her tracks for all the damning computer searches (i.e. neck breaking, etc)? That is preparing the ground work for the excuse that ZFG used the A's computer?

 

[wedavis]

Either she is even more evil than I imagined, like the Zodiac killer, and enjoyed toying with LE and her family...knowing only SHE got what "Caylee is close" and the babysitter's name meant.

Or she was dumber than a box of rocks and couldn't keep her mouth shut.

Maybe both.

JMO

She doesn't have to be either if she simply had a good reason (in her mind) for leading the A's to the body.

 

[Jolynna]

What is also intriguing to me, along with the names of the owners associated with the 2 bordering houses, is the fact that KC was giving out clues at all to her family (or anyone). I would think she would not want the remains to be found by anyone, not her family and certainly not PIs or investigators. So the fact that she was throwing out the Z-G name at all and giving clues to Caylee being 'close' is somewhat confusing to me. Unless there was some secret plan to move the remains so they wouldn't be found (and we know now that didn't happen, based on the botanist reports).

The Zodiac killer left taunting clues, so did the BTK killer as did the Son of Sam (Sam being his friend's dog).

While these sociopaths put themselves at risk, the urge to play games was stronger. I am not sure why they do it.

Cindy said Casey's lies always contained seeds of truth so it seems this is not *new* behavior from Casey.

 

[JWG]

Interesting thread and coincidence on the body location / neighbor names.

Trying to work in the parameters here of not discussing the neighbors (which I agree with, BTW), if I compare reverse phone searches with property records, the "FG" property did not become a "FG" property until April 2008, and it was a sale of 0$. The first name before and after the sale is the same "unusual" first name, implying the property title was changed as a result of marriage.

The date of the change coincides very closely with a very large Photobucket upload by KC with a lot of cynical and serious icons relating to love.

Could this alleged marriage which precipitated a title change be something known generally through the neighborhood? Would such an alleged marriage have been burned into KC's brain, and called up later when she needed to conjure her nanny story?

 

[JWG]

"Z" at the "Z" address is not the owner, implying she is a renter. When did Z start the lease, and would this have been an "event" known by KC?

Possible that the lease was recent, as the previous address for "Z" (someplace north of Florida) shows a different age range than the present location of "Z", but consistent with a relocation from north to the current address.

 

[capoly]

Interesting thread and coincidence on the body location / neighbor names.

Trying to work in the parameters here of not discussing the neighbors (which I agree with, BTW), if I compare reverse phone searches with property records, the "FG" property did not become a "FG" property until April 2008, and it was a sale of 0$. The first name before and after the sale is the same "unusual" first name, implying the property title was changed as a result of marriage.

The date of the change coincides very closely with a very large Photobucket upload by KC with a lot of cynical and serious icons relating to love.

Could this alleged marriage which precipitated a title change be something known generally through the neighborhood? Would such an alleged marriage have been burned into KC's brain, and called up later when she needed to conjure her nanny story?

If I recall correctly...make note of CORRECTLY....there was a ZG person connected to the house. She was also interviewed by LE. She works for the USPS and last name now begins with a T (again if recalling correctly). Believe she is in the docs.

 

[Balthazar]

A really good way to view the properties being discussed here, their property lines and the lay of the land is to go to www.zillow.com and put the addresses in. You can clearly see exactly where the property lines are. It's really quite interesting. One of the two houses appears to be the same flooplan as the Anthony house - based on the rooflines.

 

[Where's Andre]

Why would Casey want them to find the body though? So they could move it? Why not just move it to a "better" place herself in the first place?

In light of the alledged "overwhelming evidence" and the location of the body, I think KC wanted the body to be found. The proported time-line has Caylee murder happening after the fight with CA.

If the motive was punishment of CA by killing Caylee, taking this a sociopathic leap forward, she wanted the family to find the body first and if not possible then LE second. This way she could maximize CA's pain and anguish. Ditto for the kidnapping story etc.

Aside from discovery taking longer than she intended and getting caught, she was successful at hurting CA beyond her wildest dreams. In many ways I find this more diabolical and reprehensible than her alledged filicide.

While Caylee was an innocent child, her suffering was likely short. KC manipulated and hurt her mother and will continue to hurt her for the rest of her days-- by this I mean CA, should justice be served on KC in such a way that CA outlives her.

 

[LancelotLink]

:crazy:

I will eat half your hat for you and even bring the Hot Sauce! IMO, there is no way it is a coincidence that Zenaida G. showed up at Sawgrass Apartments and filled out a guest card on June 17th, and even in a car similiar to the car Casey describes Zenaida as having. I heard Zenaida say this about her car last night on Greta. She was there with her lawyer. There is a connection here somewhere, IMO.

Thanks. Something tells me we won't need to search what libation goes well with Fedora ala HotSauce.

 

[HeSaidSheSaid]

http://www.whitepages.com/search/Re...ity_zip=orlando+&state_id=FL&localtime=survey


Here is the link again to reverse addresses on Hopespring for those coming to the thread.

The oddity is that the two properties where behind them the body was found directly in between following the property parcel lines is the listings for a Zanaida and next door a Gonzalez.

I wouldn't put too much credence in any reverse/regular lookup online. I did a reverse lookup with my current telephone and a lookup for my current address and what came up was not me, and not even a name that was even remotely similar to mine, and I'm listed. It did give me a crapload of hits, but none of them were me. I do know that a big thing to do here is to use an existing address to register your child for a school district that you want your child to attend, if you live out of the district. I've received mail from the township's public high school, not in my name but to my address so many times I can't even count them.

Also, I pulled up to my house one afternoon, when I'd normally be in work, but left early to take care of some appointments, and there was a phone guy messing with my box on the side of my house. I asked him what he was doing, and he told me that *Jane Doe* (just putting in a name here) had requested her phone service be activated. I let him know that there was no Jane Doe at this address and that his work order must be wrong. He showed me the work order and sure as ****e, there on the work order was Jane Doe, with my address, claiming she was renting my home and had just moved into it. Had I not come home and seen the telephone man messing with my box, I'd have never known. Any delinquent bills from this woman would be associated with my address.

 

[Truth Seeker]

I need a decoder ring and a crystal ball. I think everyone is giving Ms. Casey a lot of credit. I think someone said she lives moment to moment. Plotting and planning are not in her makeup.

She was looking up missing children AND Zenaida G. on her computer before Caylee was even killed!!!!

I don't give her credit for nothing.


”The computer records also revealed that, starting in June, Casey’s computer was used to search for Zenaida Gon*****, the mystery nanny. The question now is whether she was trying to get background information on the woman, who she would later accuse of being the person who took Caylee.

She was surfing missing children web sites months before Caylee disappeared. She visited one more than a year ago. Ironically, now Caylee’s picture takes center stage on that same site.

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/computer-evidence-shows-casey-anthony-searches/

 

[JBean]

She was looking up missing children AND Zenaida G. on her computer before Caylee was even killed!!!!

I don't give her credit for nothing.


”The computer records also revealed that, starting in June, Casey’s computer was used to search for Zenaida Gon*****, the mystery nanny. The question now is whether she was trying to get background information on the woman, who she would later accuse of being the person who took Caylee.

She was surfing missing children web sites months before Caylee disappeared. She visited one more than a year ago. Ironically, now Caylee’s picture takes center stage on that same site.

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/computer-evidence-shows-casey-anthony-searches/

Actually the computer forensics only show that someone searched for Zani in July. The index file was created in June, but not written to until July. There has been much confusion about this. But from what we have seen this is all we can tell at this time.

 

[BonKai]

I have seen mappings of the property lines. Draw a b-line between them back in the woods and that is the precise point of the body. Kind of eerie coincidence and perhaps there is more in the visits that indicates that she was giving clues all along to her family. There was mention of T, familiar places, etc to Lee..

Wow. This is really interesting. These very well could be "backwards" clues that only the A's would understand (prior to the discovery of Caylee's remains).

 

[JustanotherJane]

And now that we are back on Sawgrass: I think if we can figure out the reason Casey stated Caylee had been missing since June 9th we will find some really damning evidence of premeditation or track covering.

I don't buy the rationale that using this phoney date was merely an attempt to distance Caylee's "disappearance" from the fight she had with Cindy. Think about it: the fight occured with Caylee probably in the room!

Broderick,
I think this is very intriguing if nothing else. What are the odds? However, I still can't rule out the connection to the ZG and the Sawgrass Apts.

As far as the date of June 9th, I recall that recently on another thread I posted that this was the last time RM saw Caylee. Now, put that with the latest request for RM information that the state has yet to give the defense and it at least has me wondering if there is something about RM and the chloroform connection, and the date of June 9th. I know she was seen last at the nursing home, but that's not what CA and KC wanted LE to think.

 

[wings]

They were even clued in about people in the nieghborhood, etc. etc. etc.

She was basically laying it out I do believe. I don't know if she wanted the body found, but she probably did her best to keep her story straight by giving some semblence of the truth. She told LE, NOT EVERYTHING was a lie when confronted at Universal. In her mind, she probably figured she was telling enough truths. She got mad almost early on that people couldn't catch the clues, especially family before bonding out. She told Lee he was finding out more for instance. He was probably zeroing on the close factor, the hang out factor. Now, if one could put the universal job together with this that would seal the deal. Somewhere they may be clues within that and within the other names.

OT but related to your post: She told LE in this interview thats the truth, that's the story I'm going to stick with! prob not an exact quote. she didn't say she was telling the truth, she said its true that she is going to stick with this story... IMO

But back to this topic, months ago I posted a notice that a ZG at UCF could possibly be tied to a Maria G from the neighborhood via UCF, this was part of my original ZFG theory being a teacher someone Casey felt she could trust.

You'll have to look up UCF newspaper for both names to see any relation and their past articles.

Going wayyyy of Topic for a sec, just to show how this case has gotten to my psyche, I was doing research on my golden retriever for possible breeding yesterday and a breeder came up in California-name-Gloria G... I laughed so hard I almost pd my pants. I'm seeing these names everywhere now!

 

[Psmith]

Hi. I posted about 2 pages back that *KC did not mention anything about a T* in her jail convo with LA. LA used "to a T" (paraphrase) when trying to stress to KC how important it is to be accurate with info given to LE (including correct spelling).

The only reason I bring this up again is that I wonder if you think it makes a difference to the "neighbors' names / site location" theory....

Yes? No?

 

[tx_Dot]

I was astonished when I ran across this theory at the other site.

The only reason I tend to be skeptical is that the material from the jailhouse convo about a "T" comes from LA (not KC) and he is referring to the need for spelling / accuracy of info they give to LE. (I know....Sheesh. As if!)

Nonetheless, the neighbors' names and the site location are very interesting. Funnily, this might be KC's only "out" in regard to the civil suit, but I guess she can't use this ZG connection, can she?

CA, too asked KC about a "Tia T" (was supposed to have said something about CA & a mental cond.).........KC says NO she doesn't know her.....
but it seems a Tia (Tatiana) is related to Kio as they are all listed @ the same address on hopespring.

Kio was talking to neighbors even before she talked to LE.

 

[tx_Dot]

While we are back on the ZFG topic: Has it been discussed whether Casey mentioned that ZFG had a key to the A's home in an attempt to cover her tracks for all the damning computer searches (i.e. neck breaking, etc)? That is preparing the ground work for the excuse that ZFG used the A's computer?

Could be.....

I think KC also told CA that zanny had car keys & had left KC's car to be towed.

CA clearly asks KC why didn't SHE (not YOU) pick the car up. (she meaning somone other than KC)

 

[tx_Dot]

If I recall correctly...make note of CORRECTLY....there was a ZG person connected to the house. She was also interviewed by LE. She works for the USPS and last name now begins with a T (again if recalling correctly). Believe she is in the docs.

Yep, there was a ZG questioned that worked for the USPS & another ZG that had her office broke into......I don't think either ever lived on hopespring.

LOL...I think they both still have jobs too.

 

[tx_Dot]

Hi. I posted about 2 pages back that *KC did not mention anything about a T* in her jail convo with LA. LA used "to a T" (paraphrase) when trying to stress to KC how important it is to be accurate with info given to LE (including correct spelling).

The only reason I bring this up again is that I wonder if you think it makes a difference to the "neighbors' names / site location" theory....

Yes? No?

The only connection I see with the T's in this newest twist is Kio & what she first said upon hearing Caylee was *missing.......Kio "knew where KC would bury something".......& prolly told her parents & neighbors even before she told LE.

LOL...the neighbors names @ the remains site is about as strange as the ZG/sawgrass apt. fiasco.