Possible Victim: Natasha Jugo, 31, Queens, Body Washed Ashore and belongings found on Gilgo Beach Mar 2013 *car fnd Ocean Pkwy*

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Natasha...got me interested in the whole LISK case...

why cant I find any info on her.....she is the right age for social media profile...
 
I haven't heard of any autopsy results or any news on condition of her body. Below are 2 links to info on decomposition in ocean water along with an excerpt from each site.

A 2002 study in the journal Legal Medicine examined nine bodies that had drifted hundreds of kilometers in cold waters off the coast of Portugal and Spain. Bodies recovered in the first week were in good condition, but the beginning signs of decomposition were present on a body recovered after eight days. The two bodies recovered after 20 days were highly decomposed and could only be identified through DNA analysis or dental records. As for warmer water, A 2008 study on two human bodies recovered following aircraft accidents found one body off of Sicily to be partially skeletonized after 34 days and a second body off of Namibia to be completely skeletonized after three months.*

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/news-blog/how-long-do-dead-bodies-remain-inta-2009-06-10/




Lots of human bodies end up in the sea, whether due to accidents, suicides or from being intentionally dumped there, but nobody really knows what happens to them, said Gail Anderson, a forensic entomologist at Simon Fraser University in Canada who led the unusual study.

Anderson and her team got a chance to find out, using the Victoria Experimental Network Under the Sea (VENUS), an underwater laboratory that allows scientists to take video and other measurements via the Internet. With that equipment, all they needed was a body. [See Video of Ocean Scavengers Eating the Dead Pigs]

http://www.livescience.com/48480-what-happens-to-dead-body-in-ocean.html
 
LISleuth said:
I haven't heard of any autopsy results or any news on condition of her body. Below are 2 links to info on decomposition in ocean water along with an excerpt from each site.

A 2002 study in the journal Legal Medicine examined nine bodies that had drifted hundreds of kilometers in cold waters off the coast of Portugal and Spain. Bodies recovered in the first week were in good condition, but the beginning signs of decomposition were present on a body recovered after eight days. The two bodies recovered after 20 days were highly decomposed and could only be identified through DNA analysis or dental records. As for warmer water, A 2008 study on two human bodies recovered following aircraft accidents found one body off of Sicily to be partially skeletonized after 34 days and a second body off of Namibia to be completely skeletonized after three months.*

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/news-blog/how-long-do-dead-bodies-remain-inta-2009-06-10/




Lots of human bodies end up in the sea, whether due to accidents, suicides or from being intentionally dumped there, but nobody really knows what happens to them, said Gail Anderson, a forensic entomologist at Simon Fraser University in Canada who led the unusual study.

Anderson and her team got a chance to find out, using the Victoria Experimental Network Under the Sea (VENUS), an underwater laboratory that allows scientists to take video and other measurements via the Internet. With that equipment, all they needed was a body. [See Video of Ocean Scavengers Eating the Dead Pigs]

http://www.livescience.com/48480-what-happens-to-dead-body-in-ocean.html
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Eww yuck... that's interesting.

She disappeared mid-March, and the body washed ashore June 24 (three months). IIRC it didn't take them long to identify her (which I thought was odd) but heck, maybe there was something specific that was easily identifiable.
 
Where did Natasha live in Queens? They strange thing is that her car was found on OP right? What are the circumstances that would account for this....Did she drive out there alone to meet someone and if so why? Possibly a client like shannan? Did she drive out there with someone in her car? For her car to be there and the killer to leave would mean he either rode with her and had someone pick him up, he also drove...or he lived close enough to walk home. Where exactly on OP was her car anyone know?
 
It only says her car was parked on gilgo beach (which is where 57 lived very noteworthy). If 57 knew he was dying of cancer, he could take chances and start getting pretty bold. The queens connection is significant as well, the two guys from howard beach the AC cops were looking for, the one with scruff and the big ears.
 
LindsayLohan6 said:
Where did Natasha live in Queens? They strange thing is that her car was found on OP right? What are the circumstances that would account for this....Did she drive out there alone to meet someone and if so why? Possibly a client like shannan? Did she drive out there with someone in her car? For her car to be there and the killer to leave would mean he either rode with her and had someone pick him up, he also drove...or he lived close enough to walk home. Where exactly on OP was her car anyone know?
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I have two addresses

2919 213 St Bayside
4016 217 St Bayside

http://www.ypnewyork.com/people/city/profile/bayside/1163/natasha-jugo/188344614/

http://www.ypnewyork.com/people/city/profile/bayside/1163/natasha-jugo/189333805/

And, there may be more addresses here (can't be sure about them):

http://www.tributes.com/obituary/show/Natasha-L.-Jugo-96166904


* I "think" she has family in the real estate business, so this may explain some of the different addresses.
 
fred&edna said:
I have two addresses

2919 213 St Bayside
4016 217 St Bayside

http://www.ypnewyork.com/people/city/profile/bayside/1163/natasha-jugo/188344614/

http://www.ypnewyork.com/people/city/profile/bayside/1163/natasha-jugo/189333805/

And, there may be more addresses here (can't be sure about them):

http://www.tributes.com/obituary/show/Natasha-L.-Jugo-96166904


* I "think" she has family in the real estate business, so this may explain some of the different addresses.
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I believe Brewer's family is involved in real estate.
 
LindsayLohan6 said:
It only says her car was parked on gilgo beach (which is where 57 lived very noteworthy). If 57 knew he was dying of cancer, he could take chances and start getting pretty bold. The queens connection is significant as well, the two guys from howard beach the AC cops were looking for, the one with scruff and the big ears.
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Who is 57?
 
Take a look over at the last few pages of the rumor's thread and you should be able to figure it out pretty easily. He lived and owned a business at gilgo beach and according to what I've heard he was the poi of LE
 
MoonUnderfoot said:
"Authorities were searching Sunday for a missing person at Gilgo Beach.

Suffolk County police said they received a call at 11:20 a.m. reporting that the person was from New York City and had been seen on Ocean Walk, a residential street in Gilgo Beach. A Nassau police spokeswoman said the missing person had not been found as of 4 p.m. Sunday."

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/...ing-person-at-gilgo-beach-1.4829859?qr=1&qr=1
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Seems possible that the killer might live there.
 
The problem is that THERE IS NO OCEAN WALK at gilgo beach. There are are two roads, one at the west end called Broadway(where "57"lived) and one at the east end called Cottage walk. Ocean Walk is a board walk at West Gilgo Beach, and is closest geographically to where NJ's car and wallet were found. Her nor her wallet were ever on Ocean walk in WGB, she parked her car on the Ocean Parkway at a construction barrier that was between Gilgo and West Gilgo at the time and walked into the ocean to kill herself.
 
mcme said:
The problem is that THERE IS NO OCEAN WALK at gilgo beach. There are are two roads, one at the west end called Broadway(where "57"lived) and one at the east end called Cottage walk. Ocean Walk is a board walk at West Gilgo Beach, and is closest geographically to where NJ's car and wallet were found. Her nor her wallet were ever on Ocean walk in WGB, she parked her car on the Ocean Parkway at a construction barrier that was between Gilgo and West Gilgo at the time and walked into the ocean to kill herself.
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how does one kill themselves at a beach ?
 
And why wasn't her body found when they searched?
 
You go out into very cold water and even if you can swim, after a short time you can't move a muscle if you wanted to, you drown, filling your lungs with water so you sink instead of floating, cold water hold off decay and the gasses it forms until the water warms up a little, at that point your corpse fills with gas and floats to the surface again.
 
It's pretty far fetched though right? No note left behind, no wallet, nothing. Just walk into the ocean to end it all?

Could it be as simple as she fought him off, ran into the ocean, he went after her, held her face down and she drowned? The moment and his previous MO is gone then and she couldn't become #5 (that we know of), so just leaves her there?

MHO only.

I haven't read the notes (will do so later) - but was there history of CL/BP for Jugo also?
 
mcme said:
You go out into very cold water and even if you can swim, after a short time you can't move a muscle if you wanted to, you drown, filling your lungs with water so you sink instead of floating, cold water hold off decay and the gasses it forms until the water warms up a little, at that point your corpse fills with gas and floats to the surface again.
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The water is at its coldest in March. I've been at various polar bear swims and can attest to the above theory. If you have clothes on and fall into the water, your survival is down to minutes. I tell anyone that falls in the water, get your shoes and coat off ASAP.

Is there a rock jetty in the area? People will walk out on one regardless of time of year, I've done it before. One slip is all it takes.
 
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