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BBM - I believe it was just a URL (singular) according to Sue. So much for BN's "I stopped after 90 pages of printing *advertiser censored* links" or whatever it was he said.
Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 1/9-1/12 Break
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BBM - I believe it was just a URL (singular) according to Sue. So much for BN's "I stopped after 90 pages of printing *advertiser censored* links" or whatever it was he said.
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the importance, if any, of the pairs of sunscreen and facial cleansers is the travel size itself. They are plane friendly and we already know she travels with full size toiletries on road trips. JMO
JSS can't take the DP off the table "just because". There have to be actual legal reasons for doing so, supported by fact. So on what basis do you think she's going to do this, and supported by what proven facts? Personally, I can't see any at all.
There is no evidence of prosecutorial misconduct - only unproven allegations.
There is ZERO evidence of child *advertiser censored*.
There's a grand total of ONE *advertiser censored* link that Travis *allegedly* clicked on, but didn't actually search for.
(Even if there was godzilllions of *advertiser censored*, defense would have to prove that it made a substantive difference for it to matter at all, let alone justify removal of the death penalty.)
There are plenty of ways for witnesses to testify anonymously without banning the public/media - it is not a case of total secrecy or nothing at all.
The Court of Appeals and Supreme Court have ruled that Arias does not have a need or right to testify in secret. What she decides to do now is totally up to her. What she can't do is say she was forced to stay silent, because that's not true - the higher courts have found that testifying in open court will not harm her right to a fair trial by an impartial jury in any way.
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Exactly, just like no matter how many braids or schoolgirl outfits or waxes she had, JA was still an almost 30 year old woman that was giving it away for free.
Lol, things certainly have changed since I've been "surfing". Webcrawler used to be one of my faves, then Yahoo and now pretty much just Google(though I really dislike how search engines in general try to restrict you now, even though I'm sure much of that has come about because of certain segments of society that only exist to cause chaos, the rest I chalk up to business advertising researchers). Anyway, I found most of the other search engines were too prone to letting their searches return urls from those who bought their way to the top and from 1995-2005 I was mostly researching constitutional and genealogical stuff so they were pretty useless imo.
She likely had known that it had been in her name initially, since some of the 1001 places her and TA were supposed to have seen were on that trip.
I can see her thinking, at least until she checked TA's email and saw the ticket no longer had her name on it, that she could use "her" ticket for a connecting flight to Costa Rica. Does Costa Rica and the US have an extradition treaty?
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09:46AM @courtpio State v Jodi Arias: Camera is approved for motions hearing this afternoon. 12:14PM @12News LIVE: #JodiArias trial updates http://t.co/F6StVzY2J3 12:27PM @william_pitts Now hearing the video restrictions on today's hearing are relaxed. We can use the video after the hearing's over. #JodiArias 12:49PM @william_pitts Nurmi citing the court's reasoning in closing the courtroom to the judge. Which was ruled unconnstitutional. Not sure how that works. 12:50PM @william_pitts FINALLY. Martinez brings up subpoenas. Says there were no attempts to subpoena anyone. #JodiArias 12:51PM @TrialDiariesJ Juan says he wants the affidavits of these witnesses because he doesn't have them. #jodiarias #3tvarias 12:55PM @william_pitts Whatever witness Nurmi says he has on *advertiser censored*, Martinez says TA wasn't even living in the house with that computer at the time. #JodiArias 12:55PM @michaelbkiefer Martinez says it was more likely the person who alleged Alexander watched *advertiser censored* who really watched the *advertiser censored*. Calls it a ""communal computer."" 12:55PM @william_pitts Seriously shocked no one mentioned subpoenas for the last three weeks of this thing. #JodiArias 12:56PM @william_pitts Martinez: I hope #JodiArias isn't saying she lied during the trial and that's why she won't use tape of it now. 12:56PM @TrialDiariesJ Juan- The Bishops computer having pop ups well it was a communal computer many used #jodiarias #3tvarias 12:57PM @TrialDiariesJ Juan- Jodi testified for 18 days...the story is out there in full voice! We have video if defense wants to use it. #jodiarias #3tvarias 01:07PM @william_pitts Nurmi again says Martinez admitted (today) to not disclosing the 2008 mirror image of the hard drive. 01:07PM @TrialDiariesJ Nurmi- The changing of horses supports Ms. Arias's claims #jodiarias #3tvarias 01:08PM @troyhaydenfox10 14 more witnesses for #JodiArias defense? We could be here til late spring. 01:08PM @william_pitts Judge: Nurmi do you agree that the existence of the images were disclosed? #JodiArias 01:08PM @william_pitts Nurmi: The hard drive yes, the images no. #JodiArias 01:08PM @SKrafftFox10 judge: do you agree hard drive was disclosed?
""existence yes, images no"" says #jodiarias atty.01:08PM @michaelbkiefer Nurmi: a piece of evidence that should have been turned over in 2009 not turned over until December 2014, after first trial and mid second. 01:09PM @michaelbkiefer Numi says it would never occur to them that Mesa PD would turn on the computer without a writeblocker. #JodiArias 01:10PM @TrialDiariesJ Melendez never informed defense there was a difference in the images #jodiarias #3tvarias 01:10PM @william_pitts #JodiArias watches defense attorney Kirk Nurmi give oral arguments on throwing out the death penalty Friday. #12News http://t.co/KLSPxATKoc 01:10PM @michaelbkiefer Melendez never mentioned the different mirror images. ""An act of of concealment,"" Nurmi says. 01:11PM @michaelbkiefer Eventually, the withheld evidence will derail the case, Nurmi says, hinting at appeal. ""She will never be executed."" 01:12PM @william_pitts JSS: I reread testimony. In mitigation testimony seems to have shifted to *advertiser censored*, is that the concern? #JodiArias 01:12PM @michaelbkiefer Stephens asks the significance of the newfound mirror image. 01:13PM @TrialDiariesJ We were forced to take this witness out of order & he was scrambling to get this done Smith was just getting basic info for 2 hours 01:14PM @TrialDiariesJ Judge says she listened to Lonnie's testimony and now defense has shifted to the *advertiser censored* being an issue #jodiarias #3tvarias 01:14PM @william_pitts Nurmi talking about conviction based on false testimony. That's not an argument for JSS, that's for the appeals court. 01:14PM @TrialDiariesJ Judge- Juan asked Lonnie if he found *advertiser censored* and he said he did but wasn't asked to look further by defense. #jodiarias #3tvarias 01:15PM @michaelbkiefer The #JodiArias murder conviction was based on false testimony, Nurmi says. Mesa PD has now admitted that there was *advertiser censored* on the computer. 01:17PM @TrialDiariesJ Judge- There was no follow up from defense on this issue on re direct #jodiarias #3tvarias 01:19PM @TrialDiariesJ Nurmi- We can't read affidavits to the jury. This is an issue of identity for them. To be exposed by audio and video is an issue. #jodiarias 01:19PM @TrialDiariesJ Nurmi- The threats happened before and it's a problem still with cyber-bullying #jodiarias #3tvarias 01:19PM @william_pitts Nurmi: ""It is game over. She cannot present a case for life."" #JodiArias 01:20PM @michaelbkiefer Nurmi: ""It is game over. She cannot present a good defense."" Stephens takes it under advisement. 01:20PM @william_pitts #JodiArias has nto decided whether to take the stand. Nurmi wants a ruling on this before she decides. #JodiArias 01:21PM @william_pitts Keeping track of these motions is hard...like calling the question of the motion on the previous question on the rule. #JodiArias #huh 01:21PM @michaelbkiefer Stephens says she will have a decision ""No later than Monday."" Meanwhile, Nurmi will plan on witnesses for then. 01:21PM @SKrafftFox10 #jodiarias atty: please give us your decision before Jodi Arias might testify.
Judgeecision no later than Monday morning.
01:22PM @TrialDiariesJ Nurmi wants a decision before Jodi makes a decision on testifying. Judge said she will have it by Monday #jodiarias #3tvarias 01:22PM @william_pitts court's adjourned. Back to work...more on @12news at 5 01:23PM @courtpio State v #JodiArias: hearing has concluded. Judge Sherry Stephens will take motions under advisement. Trial resumes Monday at 9:30am.
Wow, every time I go to this site to read articles about this trial I have to wonder how a paper can employ such a biased reporter, does he have majority shares in it(reminds me of Conrad Black) or has his "editorials" just been mislabeled as news?
Just a few weeks ago, I googled an unfamiliar two-word phrase which I read here on Websleuths. Not only did I need eye bleach, but the Geek Squad down at Best Buy had to keep my laptop overnight to get rid of a virus. Who knew there was such a pornographic link to bedspreads and curtains!
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Well Good Morning! I have been working the past few days and see if have alot to catch up on. I have been reading Twitter, etc, and it appears things are looking up for us Travis Alexander supporters.
Karma is indeed coming for the murderess. She looks like hell in the pics I have seen of her this past week. I must admit I have been very disheartened with December's defense antics and thought they were winning. Now.... Not so much...
If i can throw my date of sentencing into the mix, I will pick February 20 as the date she starts packing her boxes for Perryville.
I think I am seeing JSS' strategy now. IMO she plans to wrap up these loose ends - *advertiser censored*, prosecutorial misconduct, etc etc, in the coming week and then get the testimony back on track (maybe 2 days of testimony in front of the jury vs one, lol - still skeptical) and move forward to get this convicted murderer sentenced FINALLY.
I can't see what other issues Nurmi can throw into the mix, at this point, that can hold up the trial for further delay. (skepticism aside). JSS must see how ridiculous this retrial has become and is ready to get serious. Any other Nurmi antics can be addressed via appeal.
I can't wait to read CMJA's testimony transcripts! Wonder what new lies she has spewed.
Just my opinion, but I think the murderess, thinking she was smarter than her attorneys and everyone else, went for self defense thinking it couldn't fail. This was against her attorneys advice, they probably wanted to go with the "snapped" defense, crime of passion sort of thing. As it evolved into failure for her, as evidenced by what Nurmi said in his closing argument in the guilt phase about CMJA just "snapped", the murderess regretted her decision, evidenced by her post verdict interviews where she said her attorneys and yes, even the jury, "betrayed" her. So, after a year and a half, she conjured up "*advertiser censored*", prosecutorial misconduct, and now "mental illness". Through her pro per she manipulated the computer evidence somehow, thinking of course she is still smarter than everyone, either through her PI, BN, "Tony" or "Sue". Now it is backfiring big time, and she feels the clock ticking, she is deflated and absolutely desperate. Knowing she is a sociopaths, I am sure she still blames everyone, except of course, herself.
Boy was I frustrated with this entire retrial at the beginning of the Holiday break. I was thinking the jury was going to bail, and we'd have to count on JSS handing down her sentence, and me thinking Life with the possibility of parole. Now, I feel more positive than ever although still am not convinced she will get the DP. I have said I was ambivalent about the death penalty to begin with, but now I feel if anyone deserves death, she does. CMJA is pure evil. She coldly and purposefully premeditated Travis' murder, and well before 5/26/08. Given the chance, she would kill again if given parole. She will continue to harbor bad feelings for Deanna, Sky, Clancy Talbot, ANYONE who loved Travis.
The chickens are coming home to roost for this murderer. I am anxiously waiting to see if she verbalized remorse for killing Travis in her "secret no more" testimony. I doubt it.
Ok, done with my rant. Haven't had much time to read my much loved Websleuths posters lately, so I am hoping I am not being redundant. So as I watch our football play off games this weekend all comfy and cozy, I am thinking the murderess may be hitting a few walls in her cell. Me bad.
Karma is indeed coming for the murderess. She looks like hell in the pics I have seen of her this past week. I must admit I have been very disheartened with December's defense antics and thought they were winning. Now.... Not so much...
If i can throw my date of sentencing into the mix, I will pick February 20 as the date she starts packing her boxes for Perryville.
I think I am seeing JSS' strategy now. IMO she plans to wrap up these loose ends - *advertiser censored*, prosecutorial misconduct, etc etc, in the coming week and then get the testimony back on track (maybe 2 days of testimony in front of the jury vs one, lol - still skeptical) and move forward to get this convicted murderer sentenced FINALLY.
I can't see what other issues Nurmi can throw into the mix, at this point, that can hold up the trial for further delay. (skepticism aside). JSS must see how ridiculous this retrial has become and is ready to get serious. Any other Nurmi antics can be addressed via appeal.
I can't wait to read CMJA's testimony transcripts! Wonder what new lies she has spewed.
Just my opinion, but I think the murderess, thinking she was smarter than her attorneys and everyone else, went for self defense thinking it couldn't fail. This was against her attorneys advice, they probably wanted to go with the "snapped" defense, crime of passion sort of thing. As it evolved into failure for her, as evidenced by what Nurmi said in his closing argument in the guilt phase about CMJA just "snapped", the murderess regretted her decision, evidenced by her post verdict interviews where she said her attorneys and yes, even the jury, "betrayed" her. So, after a year and a half, she conjured up "*advertiser censored*", prosecutorial misconduct, and now "mental illness". Through her pro per she manipulated the computer evidence somehow, thinking of course she is still smarter than everyone, either through her PI, BN, "Tony" or "Sue". Now it is backfiring big time, and she feels the clock ticking, she is deflated and absolutely desperate. Knowing she is a sociopaths, I am sure she still blames everyone, except of course, herself.
Boy was I frustrated with this entire retrial at the beginning of the Holiday break. I was thinking the jury was going to bail, and we'd have to count on JSS handing down her sentence, and me thinking Life with the possibility of parole. Now, I feel more positive than ever although still am not convinced she will get the DP. I have said I was ambivalent about the death penalty to begin with, but now I feel if anyone deserves death, she does. CMJA is pure evil. She coldly and purposefully premeditated Travis' murder, and well before 5/26/08. Given the chance, she would kill again if given parole. She will continue to harbor bad feelings for Deanna, Sky, Clancy Talbot, ANYONE who loved Travis.
The chickens are coming home to roost for this murderer. I am anxiously waiting to see if she verbalized remorse for killing Travis in her "secret no more" testimony. I doubt it.
Ok, done with my rant. Haven't had much time to read my much loved Websleuths posters lately, so I am hoping I am not being redundant. So as I watch our football play off games this weekend all comfy and cozy, I am thinking the murderess may be hitting a few walls in her cell. Me bad.
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Just catching up from last night - also, wasn't it alluded to through tweets that this was Nurmi's request for reconsideration of a prior ruling to reject this argument? Didn't the judge say something to the effect of "haven't I heard this before?" To me, that provides even more assurances that she isn't going to grant Nurmi's request. It was just same old, same old.
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Good Morning Folks! :seeya:
Wow, not many times where I look forward to Monday. :smiliescale: :gavel:
The Jodi Arias Death Penalty Retrial: A Juror’s Perspective
by The 13th Juror MD
DAY 21
“SMOKE, MIRRORS AND THE ARM OF JUSTICE”
https://www.facebook.com/paul.sanders.921025/posts/885100518202015
There are times that the movements in a Courtroom can be akin to the moving of pieces on a Chess board. Every move that a game piece makes on the board has a consequence. An average Chess player knows how to move the pieces. :thinking:
A good Chess player thinks three to five moves ahead when he moves his pieces. :juanettes:
The killer must get on the stand or face certain checkmate…
Wow, not many times where I look forward to Monday. :smiliescale: :gavel:
The Jodi Arias Death Penalty Retrial: A Juror’s Perspective
by The 13th Juror MD
DAY 21
“SMOKE, MIRRORS AND THE ARM OF JUSTICE”
https://www.facebook.com/paul.sanders.921025/posts/885100518202015
There are times that the movements in a Courtroom can be akin to the moving of pieces on a Chess board. Every move that a game piece makes on the board has a consequence. An average Chess player knows how to move the pieces. :thinking:
A good Chess player thinks three to five moves ahead when he moves his pieces. :juanettes:
The killer must get on the stand or face certain checkmate…
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BBM ~ It is weird to me that the transcripts could not be released by end of Friday. How long does it take to get this together? We should of have this by end of Friday, unless of course we are on Nurmi time.
Secondly, why is every motion under advisement? Does JSS not get a briefing about what she is about to hear? (pros. misconduct/*advertiser censored*).
So, let's say she rules against this (pros. misconduct/*advertiser censored*). Nurmi has threatened again to go to COA.
Which is worse? Taking the DP off, or to continue to have every DT motion escalated?
I also get a vibe that I don't think the jurors were expecting to still be there almost 1 month after they were originally told this would be over. We are not even done with Geffner!
According to Numi, there are no more witnesses to testify unless she allows them to do so in "secrecy". Sure, Juan says get subpoenas, video etc.... but guess what? Nurmi will say they could not properly testify because they were forced. It also seems Juan is not too concerned if he cannot cross them.
These may not be facts, just my gut. Someone please enlighten me. :coffeews:
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Yeah, well she was also impressed with BN so I'm learning to appreciate her detailed notes on testimony, but not necessarily her opinion of it.
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During penalty phase #1 Nurmi complained about witnesses getting death threats and told the Judge that he would not be calling any witnesses. The Judge said 'fine' and moved on to Arias' allocution. I don't understand why the Judge is catering to Arias' every whim and fancy this time around. It's strange. The Judge seems convinced that the defendant has the right to a secret trial.
I fully expect more drama and delays next week. :gaah:
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The 13th juror didn't comment about something that struck me odd at the time, but it just clicked. Juan started with a bombshell on the guy's name and followed with the nickname question. I had no idea what he was doing with that when I first read it in yesterday's tweets. But now that I read the context of him asking about using a nickname while working with BN, it makes sense. He was planting a seed in the juror's mind that this guy must be some awful hacker or some sort of shady character - he doesn't even use his real name with people he works with. It all goes toward wiping out his credibility.
Is that how you read that question?
On a related note, I suspect we'll hear Juan ask DeMarte questions like:
- Is that your real name? Objection / Overruled / Yes
- Have people ever said bad things about you on Facebook, Twitter, and so on? Objection / Overruled / Yes
- Has that ever stopped you from testifying? Objection / Overruled / No
- Have you ever testified using a fake name? Objection / Overruled / No
- Have you ever hidden your background and expertise when testifying? Objection / Overruled / No
From the above 13th Juror link:
"“…My [Nurmi] client cannot present a full case for life if these [secret testimony] documents are released. Mitigating evidence will be compromised,” he pleaded. He looked down at his notes and then back at the Judge. “This is not about the First Amendment and it is not about KPNX, the media or public rights. This is about our showing mitigating factors and her life. She is not actualized mitigation. The Defendant begs that we do not release these manuscripts.”
I'd appreciate translations of the two bolded sentences, because I don't understand them. Nurmi is claiming future mitigation witness testimony "will be compromised" if JA's testimony is released? How so? And what does "She is not actualized mitigation" mean? TIA
"“…My [Nurmi] client cannot present a full case for life if these [secret testimony] documents are released. Mitigating evidence will be compromised,” he pleaded. He looked down at his notes and then back at the Judge. “This is not about the First Amendment and it is not about KPNX, the media or public rights. This is about our showing mitigating factors and her life. She is not actualized mitigation. The Defendant begs that we do not release these manuscripts.”
I'd appreciate translations of the two bolded sentences, because I don't understand them. Nurmi is claiming future mitigation witness testimony "will be compromised" if JA's testimony is released? How so? And what does "She is not actualized mitigation" mean? TIA
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