Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias #1

[LambChop]

It seems to me they should just roll the entire video of the first trial for this jury. Then no testimony is revised or changed. Of course nobody's got time for that!

Take out all the sidebars and the actual trial is about an hour and a half.

:thinking:

 

[krkrjx]

Take out all the sidebars and the actual trial is about an hour and a half.

Yep, and also remember court dates were short, and no Fridays. I think they could view the entire thing in about the equivalent of one Arizona court day.

 

[elementary]

She doesn't look drastically different but there are noticeable changes. The skin looks a little weathered and the eyes are sunken and tired and she has dark circles. For someone who always shows up at every hearing looking young and glowing and rested despite 23 hours a day in solitary, this is notable. I don't expect her looks to affect the outcome, per se (though it my opinion it already saved her once from the DP) but it's just something I've been waiting for. For solitary to finally take its toll like it does on everyone else.

Agreed! Her skin looks rough, and her eyes seem sunken into bloated, pillowy flesh; there's a coarseness to her face. She looks more like herself, IMO.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Maybe during this penalty phase, JSS will tell the attorneys "NO SIDEBARS". I would like that very much.

 

[geevee]

Jen's Trial Diaries @TrialDiariesJ · 16s

@*advertiser censored* no cameras
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(In response to a question if this hearing was being streamed)

:gaah: :tantrum::tantrum:

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:gaah: I was so looking forward to seeing Juan back in action !


:juanettes::juanettes::juanettes::juanettes:

Looove the Juanettes. The "no cameras" tweet of Jen's was in response to a tweet she received asking if today's hearing was being streamed. JSS has not ruled on the current media motion for the delayed showing of each day's court session, yesterday Jen tweeted the judge's decision would be out by the end of this week...so there's still hope.

 

[ElleElle]

Good article: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sideways-view/201408/5-ways-trip-liars

 

[Ricki]

I think I read up thread that the defense wants Travis's phone and I am wondering what will they gain by that or more like what snippets of conversations or texts will they try to twist to JA's advantage. If they take any thing from his phone I want the entire context.

 

[ElleElle]

Tom Tingle @TomTingle2 · 7h

#JodiArias smiles at her attorney during hearing in court Mon to decide if TV cameras will be allowed in sent retrial

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She looked better with bangs.

Also, did she dye her hair brown in the attempt to win Travis over.

I reread Dr. Horn's autopsy report, and Travis' genatelia was clean shaven.

Again, I know, the past. But, why was he clean shaven? For Mimi, Mexico?

Secondly, on p. 7 of the autopsy report under "nervous disorders" it states "dura mater is intact".

I'm trying to post the link up, but if you dr horn travis alexander in Google the .pdf comes up.

 

[ElleElle]

If you all have time, Google "Gray Hughes" & check out his videos on the Alexander/Arias case on YouTube, especially "Gunshot first" theory. This gentleman is a 3D graphic specialist who created these awesome videos on the murder. They helped me figure out just how Travis moved post attack. The videos gave me food for thought regarding Gunshot first/stabbing second. We'll never know for sure in what order it occurred & actually to me it doesn't matter. The amount of suffering & pain that psychopath inflicted on poor Travis warrants the death penalty.

Thank you Salberg7. :cheers:

 

[ElleElle]

He is very good with video, animation & 3D room layouts but not so good with facts that don't go along with his theory. I read a discussion he was having with others, and seemed pretty arrogant and dismissive whenever anyone would point out facts that didn't go along with his theory. He also made a few remarks that showed either total ignorance of what the medical testimony was and/or meant, or purposeful deceit. For instance:

1. When asked about the no bleeding, he at first denied Dr. Horn said that, claimed he only addressed inter-cranial bleeding. But then came back and said it was because he had bled out through the nasal passage. Guess he thinks you can move around with no blood in your body?
2. Claimed Dr. Horn said the gun shot wouldn't have incapacitated, ignoring the several bits of testimony where Dr. Horn said he would have been on the floor unable to make purposeful movement within seconds.
3. At one point actually said well, maybe the bullet did go through the brain cavity but missed the brain.

Again, one of the pictures presented at trial was the bullet hole in the anterior fossa - a pretty big one. A bullet cannot get there and do that damage without going through the brain, it just can't. Do some people survive with frontal lobe damage, even from gunshot? Yes, but one of the predictors for survival and future incapacitation is how long they stayed in a coma after the initial trauma. Those people didn't have damage to the fossa either, but still most always arrive for treatment in a coma that lasts from minutes to days to months.

Ok, here is the thing, the bullet never exited.

 

[ElleElle]

He is very good with video, animation & 3D room layouts but not so good with facts that don't go along with his theory. I read a discussion he was having with others, and seemed pretty arrogant and dismissive whenever anyone would point out facts that didn't go along with his theory. He also made a few remarks that showed either total ignorance of what the medical testimony was and/or meant, or purposeful deceit. For instance:

1. When asked about the no bleeding, he at first denied Dr. Horn said that, claimed he only addressed inter-cranial bleeding. But then came back and said it was because he had bled out through the nasal passage. Guess he thinks you can move around with no blood in your body?
2. Claimed Dr. Horn said the gun shot wouldn't have incapacitated, ignoring the several bits of testimony where Dr. Horn said he would have been on the floor unable to make purposeful movement within seconds.
3. At one point actually said well, maybe the bullet did go through the brain cavity but missed the brain.

Again, one of the pictures presented at trial was the bullet hole in the anterior fossa - a pretty big one. A bullet cannot get there and do that damage without going through the brain, it just can't. Do some people survive with frontal lobe damage, even from gunshot? Yes, but one of the predictors for survival and future incapacitation is how long they stayed in a coma after the initial trauma. Those people didn't have damage to the fossa either, but still most always arrive for treatment in a coma that lasts from minutes to days to months.

The brain was "mush" according to Dr. Horn. As we know, challenged by JW.

 

[ElleElle]

... a theory that disregards (among many things) the actual direction of the bullet, and the actual damage caused inside the cranial cavity, both of which indicate (to an actual expert) that the bullet did enter the brain.

In short, it's not a theory at all - it's a flight of fancy.

Point something straight down above your brow bone. It can potentially clear the brain and go straight through the sinuses. Just sayin

 

[cindymac]

Aaaaah, good times. opcorn:

Yes indeed...

Willmott: You wouldn't want to do any further investigation as to why he [Travis] might say something like that, right?
Demarte: I can't do that. He's not alive.
Willmott: We would want to look at, then, behaviors and investigate maybe whether or not there is any true meaning behind these words, right?
Demarte: I couldn't do that because he's not alive.
Willmott: So when somebody is not alive, you can't get any information from them. Is that what you mean?
Demarte: From them directly, that's correct, because they're not alive.

 

[ElleElle]

Anyway, just because Arias wanted all the police evidence doesn't mean Nurmi or Willmott require it. Unless it is for her. They had access to all of it long ago and have exhausted its use at trial.

Police evidence was not important to Nurmi and Wilmott. They were focusing of the self-defence plea which, IMO, failed miserably.

Jodi will try to throw the detectives under the bus. Again, JMO.

 

[deedee21]

Nali87, Also Jodi tried to sneak out messages in a magazine. Her monkey business will go on for years to come. Expect the unexpected when it comes to this nutjob. She wont have anything else to do. Hopefully the crime scene photos is enough for the jurors to do the right thing.

 

[deedee21]

Sending money to St. Judes is a jab at the Alexander family. The jury will realize this.

 

[cindymac]

Secondly, on p. 7 of the autopsy report under "nervous disorders" it states "dura mater is intact".

Yes. That's a typo. Obviously. Can't have a hole in the skull without also having a hole in the dura mater. Anatomical fact.

 

[cindymac]

Ok, here is the thing, the bullet never exited.

No. It passed through the cranial cavity - i.e. the brain - before lodging inside the facial skeleton.

 

[cindymac]

Point something straight down above your brow bone. It can potentially clear the brain and go straight through the sinuses. Just sayin

Not relevant. This angle is based on supposition, not actual injuries to the skull.

 

[ElleElle]

Yes. That's a typo. Obviously. Can't have a hole in the skull without also having a hole in the dura mater. Anatomical fact.

What is you definition of skull? The whole head? The whole head does not compromise all of brain.

Nice meeting you too cindymac.