Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 12/04 In recess Computer Exp Hearing

[franquerolane]

I wonder what, if anything, this judge would have said if Nurmy had said, "we have 437 witnesses to call?

 

[Steely Dan]

And JM isn't taking his word for it, which I completely agree with. And Bryan wants to talk to DT after being ordered to provide it and password? Well, my radar's up!

I totally agree with you. This is my opinion of how the exchange SHOULD have gone;

JM - I want a copy of the hard drive you worked on.
BN - Sure, it's encrypted, but I'll give you guys the key.

Anything other than that makes my hinky meter peg. Why is he so worried about turning it over. It's a copy of a copy of a copy according to BN. So then there shouldn't be any hinkyness on the hard drive. It should be exactly the same as the one originally turned over to him, right? If there are changes then I guess he's in deep doo doo. JMO

I love the stalling comment he made. He's refusing to answer, refusing to discuss how he went over it, refusing to hand over a copy, he's the one stalling.

There is something really fishy going on here. Is he peeved at Juan's dog comment?

Fourteen witness' from Nurmi? I thought they couldn't get anyone to testify on her behalf?

at the whole dang mess.

 

[bznbear]

I have two random thoughts...Actually one thought and one question.

My thought: I am listening to the TV talking about Charles Manson marrying some strange young woman. It struck me that case would probably not led to convictions if tried today in what appears to be a rapidly increasing legal landscape replete with a Big Top, circus music, clowns, sideshows and second rate magicians.

My Question for the Legal Minds on the Board: Isn't there some sort of limit as to how long a trial can go on? Even in a DP case? And isn't there a limit to the amount of money that can be spent on the state dime? And who decides which case gets these high level resources? What about the other folks on trial for murder? Using the "fairness" model, shouldn't every DP case take months to try and millions to cover it? How come I see case after case after case tried in a handful of weeks with sentences passed quickly thereafter? I don't get it. Is there some new standard that says if you can kill someone and get news coverage afterwards and get enough people talking about it..it then becomes "high profile" and you are then afforded more rights and resources than the "average" killer? Please educate me because this question is driving me slowly into quiet madness.

Good questions. When I was in the military, we were cautioned on the dangers of even the appearance of improper conduct, bias, nepotism. There's a regulation outlining what is/isn't acceptable behavior, a code of ethics, if you will. I'm quite sure something akin to that exists for jurists, and no defendant deserves more than another. I would also suggest there shouldn't even be the appearance of such.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

Stephens ordered BN to provide it by Wednesday,yesterday and he didn't. Why should we believe she is serious now?

Expect a police report of a stolen "encrypted" copied image, (or whatever the hell it is). Just kidding... or am I? :thinking:

 

[LinasK]

Thanks! I am strongly convinced she didn't plant the nudes. Especially not since they included pictures of Jodi herself as well. We know she cares about her reputation. She's mentioned that enough times in her interviews with detective Flores. Remember she was still trying to find a man back then. The way she was viewed by others was important. So I don't think she would have included those pics of herself. And if so, she would have photoshopped her face out of them.

She might have wanted Mimi to find the nude pictures of her. She had no concerns about her reputation when the nude photos and the sex tapes were played in open court.

 

[Steely Dan]

It was probably Gus Searcy...:giggle::laughcry::bombshell::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

:laughcry:

 

[geevee]

Reminds me of the musical group with the boxes on their heads that Jodi said she saw Travis watching. I wonder if that was a lie?

I don't think she saw it when she said she did.

 

[kaRN]

I believe the issue was that the DT, aka BN, was supposed to have returned TA's hd and didn't, whether by accident or as a stalling tactic we'll probably never know. The question, at least for me, is how do we know that BN, Tony, or the secret "expert" even did their tests on the right hd?

So it looks like the DT should be up on allegations of misconduct then. Geesh. I so wish TA had a Mac. The quality of computer expert would have been so much higher than these secret hacks with no credentials.
:gaah:

 

[Steely Dan]

I don't think she saw it when she said she did.

She probably saw it when the computer fell the way computers do.

 

[Truth Detector]

Does anyone know when write blockers were first used on computers? Routinely?

The patent on the technology was issued on November 2, 2004.

Neumeister probably doesn't know the difference between hardware and software write blockers.

 

[cubbeegirl]

I don't know if I will ever watch another trial- after this.

I feel the same...I said as much after the Florida fiasco...and look where I am now...I don't think this is good for me...emotionally or physically uggghhhh !

 

[Reagan]

Good question! I can't get past how much Donovan and BM look alike. Fraternal twins maybe.

Have they ever been seen in the same place at the same time? Something to think about :crosseyed:

 

[geevee]

She probably saw it when the computer fell the way computers do.

Hahahaha!

 

[Truth Detector]

Sounds like they're going for delay and stall until all the jurors drop out. 14?!?!?

Your tongue was probably firmly in your cheek, but I've long believed that this is LKN's/JA's deliberate strategy; i.e., juror attrition and/or confusion.

 

[Steely Dan]

Oh, and about only giving the state the part of the hard drive that was being used and cutting off the dead space. How does anyone know it's all dead space unless you turn it over to them? Because you said it is?

 

[Shadowboy]

The patent on the technology was issued on November 2, 2004.

Neumeister probably doesn't know the difference between hardware and software write blockers.

Could be! He certainly didn't know what JM was talking about when JM referenced Incinerator. If I understand my quickie research, the program was originally developed by the DOD. You'd think Mr. Award Winning expert witness would know that, eh?

Anyway, aside from a muzzle for KN, my deepest wish is that someone with computer know-how tweets from the next evidentiary hearing. It was painfully obvious that today's testimony sounded like, *"blah, blah, blah Ginger" to the Twitter-ees in the courtroom.

*many thanks, Gary Larson

 

[JSR]

Your tongue was probably firmly in your cheek, but I've long believed that this is LKN's/JA's deliberate strategy; i.e., juror attrition and/or confusion.

I actually DO believe their strategy is to delay and drag out the trial so that more jurors drop out due to time conflicts and then it's an automatic mistrial.

 

[MaryND]

I'm trying to understand this hearing. I just listened to Beth K in her wrap up, and she seems to think that there was mishandling of evidence when LE took Travis' computer and also when they viewed the computer in 2009. She also seems to believe that this jury will be subjected to all the "*advertiser censored*" stuff. Maybe I just don't want to hear this, but I really smell a rat. How is it that both DT and prosecution didn't find ANY viruses, nor *advertiser censored* and now...wow. It just is beyond my comprehension. Any thoughts?

 

[bznbear]

Could be! He certainly didn't know what JM was talking about when JM referenced Incinerator. If I understand my quickie research, the program was originally developed by the DOD. You'd think Mr. Award Winning expert witness would know that, eh?

Anyway, aside from a muzzle for KN, my deepest wish is that someone with computer know-how tweets from the next evidentiary hearing. It was painfully obvious that today's testimony sounded like, *"blah, blah, blah Ginger" to the Twitter-ees in the courtroom.

*many thanks, Gary Larson

I was reading over on BK's site and she actually thought JM was badgering the witness!

 

[Amster]

I actually DO believe their strategy is to delay and drag out the trial so that more jurors drop out due to time conflicts and then it's an automatic mistrial.

I believe that is what JSS is aiming for.....then, she can give JA LWP to make up for her being found guilty. She, KN and JW can then go party with Cougarlousious(sp)