Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 12/04 In recess Computer Exp Hearing

[Quiet Time]

I think the possibility of JSS giving Jodi a shot at parole is remote. However, having said that, I am not 100% certain she would not. But I still think JSS should have enough good judgment left to know Jodi would be a serious danger to society should she ever walk out of jail a free woman no matter how old she might be. Although as of late the defense has been able to get her to follow them down the rabbit hole maybe they could in terms of giving her a shot at freedom?

I haven't seen any video of JSS in action, or rather inaction, during these proceedings but from the tweets she seems like a COMPLETELY different jurist than the last proceedings. Something seems completely "off" with her and I'm not sure what that could be. The last proceedings she was able to better manage the self created drama the defense tried to repeatedly to bring into the Courtroom. This time not so much.

This is JMO, but from the fanning herself pic earlier, she may just be starting to go thru Menopause. And gah, what an awful time that could be.
Especially having to listen to this crazy back and forth line of questioning, I'd be going crazy too.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

I have two random thoughts...Actually one thought and one question.

My thought: I am listening to the TV talking about Charles Manson marrying some strange young woman. It struck me that case would probably not led to convictions if tried today in what appears to be a rapidly increasing legal landscape replete with a Big Top, circus music, clowns, sideshows and second rate magicians.

My Question for the Legal Minds on the Board: Isn't there some sort of limit as to how long a trial can go on? Even in a DP case? And isn't there a limit to the amount of money that can be spent on the state dime? And who decides which case gets these high level resources? What about the other folks on trial for murder? Using the "fairness" model, shouldn't every DP case take months to try and millions to cover it? How come I see case after case after case tried in a handful of weeks with sentences passed quickly thereafter? I don't get it. Is there some new standard that says if you can kill someone and get news coverage afterwards and get enough people talking about it..it then becomes "high profile" and you are then afforded more rights and resources than the "average" killer? Please educate me because this question is driving me slowly into quiet madness.

The Mason Family trial was a circus too. Krenwinkle, Houten and Atkins followed Charlie's every whim. If their attorneys said anything that he didn't like and they would fire them. One of them, Ronald Hughes, disappeared and was found after the trial wedged between two boulders. One of Manson's followers later admitted that the Manson Family had murdered him.


And then you had Charlie, a true sociopath, that was intent on causing as much disrupion and chaos that he could and from afar.
One time Charlie jumped towards the judge, yelling, "someone should cut your head off!" Atkins, Krenwinkel and Van Houten stood up and started chanting in Latin.

Manson was acting pro se and had old lawyer named Irving Kanarek, who was legendary for his attention to detail (much to the frustration of witnesses, judges and juries) and one time while on the stand said he couldn't give his name when asked because it was hearsay. He heard it from his mother.


In Helter Skelter Bugliosi wrote," it had been the longest murder trial in American history, lasting nine and a half months; the most expensive, costing approximately $1 million; and the most highly publicized; while the jury had been sequestered 225 days, longer than any jury before it. The trial transcript alone ran to 209 volumes, 31,716 pages, approximately eight million words."

 

[Hoosgirl]

I am trying hard to follow this computer stuff. "Incinerator" was a new term for me. I wonder if Juan's insistence on having BN confirm that there was NOT an incinerator program on Travis' computer means that if there is one on the copy/image/clone/whatever that BN turns over, that proves he or a member of his team installed it and deleted all the files - not the prosecution??

I'm lost lol.

 

[Truth Detector]

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 8m8 minutes ago
Spotted: Bryan Neumeister shmoozing in lobby with media. Seemed flustered. Is he allowd to discuss this case w/people? #jodiarias

Why not?

What would JSKS ever do to him?

Shake his hand and ask him for an autograph?

 

[Troubled]

AZ I did not hear/read anything about child so I am not sure it was even asked.

In regards to cell phones and SIM cards. Not all cell phones have SIM cards. I was with Sprint for many MANY years and none of their phones had SIM cards. When I switched to Verizon I suddenly have to deal with one which I have never had before. So it is very possible that the phones didnt have them. Or maybe Stabby took them out when we was preparing to run... oh I mean go camping with a bunch of guys and a gun.

 

[Tuba]

Frigga, I've been poring over everyone's posts & re-tweets. Just now caught up except for page 5. Page 5 was when the hearing got underway, a dark age ago. I'm swirling in the after blast of our unified flabbergast at the testimony & examinations. Juan Martinez definitely knew the character he was grappling with and Juan will not let go. The judge doesn't have Neumeister's number nor is she eager to figure him out. Thinks she is displaying even handed detachment. Unfortunately, the events of the day called for clear decisions, forcefully conveyed, and rule over disorder.

Since we're here to observe in our handicapped, modest way, we can chalk up for the prosecution that Neumeister exposed himself. I see an old parchment writ of culpable error naming one Esteban Flores plus one Juan Martinez, ever so slowly crumpling as the hours ticked by. It's the size of a spit ball now and will go out with the courtroom sweepings tonight.

The defense and their entrusted B have nothing, had nothing. As Dmacky suspects, the $89 Arias signature is all over this project we see in its last throes now. It was when she took up her self-representation in August that the sudden, immediate demand for access to all evidence in & at the Mesa P.D. was made in the name of Jodi Ann Arias & for the person of her personal investigator, Dorian Bond. After a cursory examination, who knows what inspirations lit her fevered brain from one day to the next. But as you suggest, Dmacky, she knew what she wanted, all too well.

 

[Truth Detector]

I still think she had accomplices, as in helped her hide/manufacture/plant evidence.

The magazine code was meant to be smuggled out to her homeboy, MM.

 

[Wagara]

I just feel uncomfortable with beating up on the Judge. I know that I'm in the minority, but I trust her and understand that this is a DP case, so she wants to make sure that the Defense, no matter how goofy it seems, has a fair trial. She probably is disgusted as the rest of us. Just my Opinion

I hear you but her job is to be fair and impartial period...not fair to the defense and the heck with the people of AZ. She needs to step it up or admit for whatever reason she can't.

 

[elementary]

I think the possibility of JSS giving Jodi a shot at parole is remote. However, having said that, I am not 100% certain she would not. But I still think JSS should have enough good judgment left to know Jodi would be a serious danger to society should she ever walk out of jail a free woman no matter how old she might be. Although as of late the defense has been able to get her to follow them down the rabbit hole maybe they could in terms of giving her a shot at freedom?

I haven't seen any video of JSS in action, or rather inaction, during these proceedings but from the tweets she seems like a COMPLETELY different jurist than the last proceedings. Something seems completely "off" with her and I'm not sure what that could be. The last proceedings she was able to better manage the self created drama the defense tried to repeatedly to bring into the Courtroom. This time not so much.

Can she take into account all the evidence she quashed about the knives and gun secreted in the car, for example?

Actually, I think the DT happily knows she is in their pocket. And thusly it will continue.

 

[Truth Detector]

Who could they be? Inmates that she knows? Who?

The Freemans, for two.

 

[Shadowboy]

I was in court. Just catching up on breaks. It was delightful. Everyone was respectful, time limits were enforced...just a lovely experience.

(respectfully snipped)

But ... how did it Feeeeel? Are you going to write about your experience in more detail? We (meaning, I guess, "I") felt today's Twitter coverage missed both hard information and courtroom dynamics. (edit) Meant to add, any further personal 'takes' on the Arias action v. your 'normal' courtroom experiences?

 

[Truth Detector]

I think the judge has 'pushover' stamped on her forehead. It's the only explanation for such egregious dereliction of duty.

Pushover or smitten...

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Expect a police report of a stolen "encrypted" copied image, (or whatever the hell it is). Just kidding... or am I? :thinking:

Or an electrical glicth in his "hi tech" office.

 

[LinasK]

@TrialDiariesJ: Bryan is being a computer snob and doesn't want to explain what encrypted means #jodiarias #3tvarias

@TrialDiariesJ: Bryan just asked to speak to Jen and Nurmi so we are on recess #jodiarias #3tvarias

Why can't BN just take the encryption off before he gives it back to Juan or... give him the code to unencrypt it. Juan must have FBI cyber-experts who know how to open encrypted files... just sayin'!!!

 

[Truth Detector]

Why can't anyone tweet stuff verbatim? Why is there SO much editorialising? It seems to me the tweets are getting worse and worse and way less informative. Is there no one out there who wants to purely deliver the news anymore? Is it all about 'social' media? /end rant

Not a real trial, no real judge, and no real reporters.

Ah, consistency...

 

[katydid23]

I have sons that still remember their babysitters from younger than he was and she was living with his father, for quite some time. This was him back in probably 2006 or so, so he'd be around 15 now. http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/117/0bfbf7c40138cf21f4dd782c06fe936a/l.jpg

http://crimeandcourtsnews.blogspot.ca/2013/04/jodi-arias-and-travis-alexander-mormon_20.html#.VIEH_cmgRF8
"Jodi Arias had been living with her boyfriend Darryl Brewer, 52, when she met Travis Alexander in September 2006, at a Pre Paid Legal Services convention. You may hear Darryl Brewer’s testimony from the Jodi Arias trial here (fast forward to 2:03:14).

Brewer stated he met Jodi Arias in the fall of 2001 when they worked together at the Ventana Inn in Big Sur, California. . Brewer is the father of a 14-year-old son and didn’t want to be seen on camera during the trial."

He might remember her, but what can he really testify to? He was about 4 or 5 when she moved out. How much can he really know about her? She was nice and made him PBand J?

 

[LinasK]

Maybe so the State can't see what was done. I thought encryption was primarily for security purposes. What are they hiding.

BBM. It is. The fact that they have to consult before turning over the encryption password is huge- they are hiding something.

 

[MeeBee]

Okay! Just listened to the juror's interview!

It was interesting but not super informative.

I now know why Nurmi added more witnesses. She learned it was going past Dec 18 and she couldn't do it anymore. Stuff came up. I do believe this is Nurmi's new goal

She was a very logical, focused person. Not a lot of emotion. She wasn't overtly pro state or defense. She did ask the "trigger" question. I think she would have been a leader and she would have made a good juror. But after listening to her, I'm still kind of glad she is off the jury lol. Something just rubs me the wrong way about her.

The BEST thing she said though is she is confident the jury will come to a unanimous verdict.

 

[RickshawFan]

If Arias photo is current, wow she looks bad:

https://twitter.com/ZoeyWatson2014/status/540536220091043840

We maybe need a collage of prison-stripe photos?

 

[elementary]

This is JMO, but from the fanning herself pic earlier, she may just be starting to go thru Menopause. And gah, what an awful time that could be.
Especially having to listen to this crazy back and forth line of questioning, I'd be going crazy too.

I've been through menopause and I find it offensive that anyone would think this is an excuse or explanation for any professional woman or any woman. Unless it is an exception, we all get through it without hysteria or sickness or wackiness. Seriously? That's all people have to explain the judge's decisions? I think she deserves to be criticised for her decisions and not for being female.