RI RI - Linda Carman, 54, Point Judith, 18 Sept 2016 *SON ARRESTED, dies before trial*

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Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 1h1 hour ago
Nathan Carman is back on the stand for what is expected to be the last day in the trial over the insurance policy for his sunken boat. Today is day 7 in Providence Federal Court


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 1h1 hour ago
Each side was given 15 hours to make their case. Plaintiffs now have 2 hours, Carman and his lawyer 2.5 hours. Even with court starting an hour late today, time will expire for both sides by this afternoon.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 1h1 hour ago
Carman was rescued more than 100 miles off the shore of Massachusetts in September 2016. He says his boat sank 7 days earlier after departing from Point Judith in Rhode Island.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 1h1 hour ago
Carman's mother, Linda Carman, was also on the boat, but hasn't been seen since.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 1h1 hour ago
Boat US rejected Carman's claim, saying he
1) Made changes that rendered the boat unseaworthy and
2) He never disclosed those changes to the insurance company, in violation of the terms of his policy.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 1h1 hour ago
Plaintiffs' attorneys have also questioned Carman's account of events, including:
1) where his boat, Chicken Pox, sank
2) His timeline of when it sank/how long he was at sea

Kait Walsh‏Verified account @KaitLouiseWalsh 1h1 hour ago
Nathan Carman arrives at Federal Court for what’s expected to be the final day of testimony in his civil trial. @wpri12

( video clip: Kait Walsh on Twitter )


Robert Goulston‏Verified account @rgoulston 50m50 minutes ago
These are photos of Nathan Carman taken by the crew on a ship that rescued him after he says his boat sank and his mother was lost at sea. He told the Coast Guard he was on the life raft for a full week.

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Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 1h1 hour ago
Day 7 begins with Carman resuming cross examination from his lawyer, David Anderson. Carman was called as a witness by attorneys for Boat US.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 1h1 hour ago
Carman says he assumed Boat US was a membership organization. "I thought they were on my side"


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 1h1 hour ago
Says that when he purchased insurance from Boat US, he thought company "was basically a charity," didn't know it was owned by an insurance company. Anderson has accused Boat US of not being honest, withholding information with Carman.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 1h1 hour ago
Anderson: "If you were aware" Boat US and insurance company were "working hand in glove," would that would change your decision. Carman: yes


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 1h1 hour ago
Carman: "I'm always mindful of how this company will be on my side and how they are incentivized."


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 1h1 hour ago
Carman says he reviewed Boat US website for terms and conditions of policies. Says he tries "to be quite thorough about it."


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 1h1 hour ago
Carman says he didn't think he had to worry about exclusions for the big stuff, "because if the boat sank, I was covered -- period."
Says his grandfather tought him to be "mindful" of exclusions.
 
Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 51m51 minutes ago
We’ve picked back up from yesterday with Carman’s attorney David Anderson continuing his questioning. Judge McConnell encourages him to move along as he has more witnesses to call up to the stand. Questioning has been very technical from Anderson throughout this trial. @ABC6


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 55m55 minutes ago
Back to the policy. Carman says he "thoroughly reviewed" website, but couldn't find terms. Says he couldn't do so because he wasn't a member yet.
Says he eventually become a member, but at that point never reviewed the policy. Preferred paper copies over digital.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 56m56 minutes ago
Carman says he never received a written copy of the policy.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 55m55 minutes ago
Judge just reminded Anderson he now has less than 2 hours left. Told Anderson he's free to use those hours as he sees fit, but recommended he move to a different line of questioning.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 54m54 minutes ago
Prior to buying Chicken Box, Carman jointly owned a 22-foot boat with his mother. Says they fished, mostly near shore. Carman says they were "limited" by size of boat when they wanted to go off shore


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 54m54 minutes ago
Carman says he wanted to go offshore for tuna fishing, also wanted independence. So he purchased Chicken Pox from Brian Woods in December 2015.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 46m46 minutes ago
Carman says prior to departure on last voyage in September 2016, he:
1) Replaced 2 bilge pumps
2) replaced a filter for one of the pumps
3) Hadn't tested pump, but knew it worked Also says he believed pumps were working properly.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 46m46 minutes ago
After Carman removed trim tabs, there were four holes on the back of the boat. He says he filled them with putty that he believed were appropriate for use below water line. Advertised as being "as strong as steel."


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 45m45 minutes ago
He says he never saw water coming in through the area of the holes.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 45m45 minutes ago
Judge asks Carman to explain how he removed trim tabs. Carman says he leaned over the back of the boat (it was docked, in the water at the time).


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 44m44 minutes ago
Carman says he used drill to remove screws, which didn't go all the way through the boat.
Found actuator heads were still stuck to the boat. He used a flat head screw driver to pry heads from the boat.
He says only black nylon tubing, no piping, behind the heads.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 42m42 minutes ago
He says he never had to do anything to the boat to increase the size of any of the holes (that were already there) in the back of the boat. He only had to roughen up the edges of the holes to hold putty.
"What I know is I did not enlarge the size of the hole."


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 42m42 minutes ago
Carman says epoxy putty stick was larger than the hole, and he had to force the putty into the hole.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 41m41 minutes ago
Witnesses for the plaintiff have accused Carman of making the holes bigger when he removed the trim tabs from the boat. Plaintiffs also say
1) There was no need to remove the trim tabs
2) Using epoxy putty, with no backing, was not appropriate fix for holes below water level
 
Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 41m41 minutes ago
Carman estimates he talked with Coast Guard for at least 2 hours, answered all their questions to the best of his knowledge.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 40m40 minutes ago
Carman never asked for his attorney at the time (not Anderson yet) to be present when he talked with Coast Guard in Boston.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 34m34 minutes ago
Carman not testifying about life raft. Essentially was an inflatable mattress with walls, tent-like water proof roof.
He says he kept a door open when conditions were good so he could see if any boats were out. Kept it closed when conditions were poor.


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 34m34 minutes ago
Carman now speaking about his rescue and the life raft he says he floated on for a week before being rescued by a Chinese vessel. @ABC6


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 34m34 minutes ago
Raft had a water maker, was very difficult to use.
Converted salt water into usable water.


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 34m34 minutes ago
Judge says he hasn’t heard Carman describe the search for his mother throughout this testimony. “Did you search for your mother?” “Yes,” Carman answers. @ABC6


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 33m33 minutes ago
Judge: Did you search for your mother.
Carman: yes
Judge: Tell me how


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 33m33 minutes ago
Carman says he didn’t hear his mom yell out. “I don’t know if she got tangled in the fishing lines or something. She was a good swimmer” @ABC6


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 33m33 minutes ago
Carman says he didn't know boat was sinking right away. He says he never heard his mother "I don't know if she hit her had," or if she got tangled in a tuna rod.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 33m33 minutes ago
Carman says that when he was in the water, he was with a package of emergency supplies. When he got his barings (estimates a minute) he didn't see he at the surface. He then called out for her.


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 34m34 minutes ago
Carman says he was holding on to safety gear, looked around and did not see his mom on the surface. Says he doesn’t remember yelling out to her then, but did once on the life raft. “There was a swell, but I think I would have been able to see her.” @ABC6


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 32m32 minutes ago
Judge asks Carman if he dived into water to search for his mother. “No, I did not.” Linda Carman was never found and is presumed dead. @ABC6


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 30m30 minutes ago
Carman said he was the one who knew what to do on board, his mom was just a passenger. Said he saw her as “part of the problem rather than the solution.” Carman says he knew his mother would panic rather than help the problem (water in the bilge) @ABC6


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 32m32 minutes ago
Carman says his mother would have gotten in the way of trying to fix the problem, better to give her a task like bringing in the fishing lines.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 30m30 minutes ago
Carman says he recognized they were in "some degree of perrill," perhaps should have made a call indicating an issue. Calls it a "pan pan pan call," which is a degree less than "mayday" emergency call."


Robert Goulston‏Verified account @rgoulston 28m28 minutes ago
Judge asks Carman to explain how he looked for his mother. Carman says he did not hear her yell out. Didn’t know if she hit head or got tangled in lines. He did not yell out for her until he got into raft. Then he stood on raft yelling Mom, mom. Pausing to hear if she called back


Robert Goulston‏Verified account @rgoulston 29m29 minutes ago
Judge asks if Carman ever dove under water to see if he could see her below the surface of the water. Carman said he did dive down under water.

Robert Goulston‏Verified account @rgoulston 27m27 minutes ago
Carman says the water conditions that day were relatively flat but there were swells.
 
Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 31m31 minutes ago
Now back to the bulkheads, which Carman removed.
Carman says bulkheads, at the front of the boat under the deck, were not water tight.
He says there was no seal between bulkheads and fishbox.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 30m30 minutes ago
Carman: "I certainly do not believe" that removing bulkheads made the boat less seaworthy. Says he wouldn't have removed them if he believed removal would make boat less safe.
He says boat passed Coast Guard inspection after removals.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 30m30 minutes ago
Second Coast Guard inspection was within a month of sinking


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 29m29 minutes ago
Carman says he believed boat was safe for tuna fishing, even after removal of bulkheads.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 26m26 minutes ago
Anderson says he has now exceeded "my self-imposed time limit" on questioning Carman. He has now used more than an hour (started with 2 hours, 20 minutes left). But he still wants to ask Carman about his last voyage on Chicken Pox


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 24m24 minutes ago
Carman says he planned to go out on a Friday with his mom, but needed couldn't get a part needed for a repair. They delayed plans until Saturday. He replaced non-working bilge pump during the day on that Saturday before going out fishing with his mom


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 24m24 minutes ago
Says he also decided he had time to remove the trim tabs, which he suddenly had time to do.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 22m22 minutes ago
Trim tabs help a boat get leverage so engine can operate more efficiently. But Carman says trim tabs made his boat too "bow heavy," front end not getting up as much as it should have.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 22m22 minutes ago
Carman says another captain suggested removing trim tabs. Says they can get in the way when fishing for tuna, other big fish. When tuna swim under the boat, fishing lines can get tangled around trim tabs, Carman says.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 20m20 minutes ago
Carman says he used epoxy putty accoring to instructions and fully filled four holes left by removal of trim tabs.
Carman also again says trim tab marketing indicated it was "hard as steel."
 
Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 20m20 minutes ago
Carman says he removed trim tabs early afternoon on Saturday. Packaging said only needed an hour for epoxy putty to harden. Carman says he and his mom departed around 11 pm that night.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 14m14 minutes ago
Carman says he has talking days-long trips with his mom to go deep sea fishing: tuna, mahi-mahi


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 13m13 minutes ago
Sorry, should say *taken long fishing trips, not talking


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 11m11 minutes ago
Anderson trying to move things along, but still only part way through Carman's account. Seems to be getting frustrated with his client's long answers.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 4m4 minutes ago
Anderson asks Carman to describe his week in the life raft. Carman says he could best be benefit to mom by focusing on getting rescued so he could get people to find her


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 3m3 minutes ago
"The only way I could be a benefit to my mom after nightfall on the first day was to take care of myself" so he could communicate with rescuers.



Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 2m2 minutes ago
Carman says on the stand, “The only way I could be of benefit to my mom was to take care of myself” after the boat sank, so that rescuers could be told “everything I know” about what happened @ABC6


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 3m3 minutes ago
Carman says he had adequate food attached to the raft, more food packed in safety kit. Also adequate water from his water converter


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 2m2 minutes ago
Carman claims to have called out for his mother until nightfall, then he thought it was best to get rest and hope to be rescued. @ABC6


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 1m1 minute ago
Carman says some days were "downright hot." Other days were cold, but he had mylar sleeping bag and blankets.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 45s46 seconds ago
Carman says water was "bath-tub warm," not cold, when he swam from his raft to the freighter that rescued him. Also says he was able to stand up on the raft


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 19s20 seconds ago
In opening arguments, plaintiffs questioned whether Carman would be strong enough to swim to, get on boat under his own power after week at sea. They could still call a witness to testify as such.


Robert Goulston‏Verified account @rgoulston 56s57 seconds ago
Carman describes life raft having full tent. He and food and water in emergency kits. Carman says air temp was about 60-70 over the 7 days he was in raft. Conditions inside raft were dry to damp. He used sponge to absorb moisture and ring out.


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 3m3 minutes ago
Anderson asks Carman if he has any more relevant information to share on the stand before he finishes his questioning. Carman says no. Judge calls a lunch break. @ABC6


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 3m3 minutes ago
Anderson ends questioning of Carman, using most of the 2 hours, 20 minutes he had left when the day started.
 
Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Afternoon session begins with plaintiffs starting re-direct of Carman.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Starts by asking Carman about purchase at Middletown, Rhode Island on the Sept. 17, 2016. The day the boat sank
Carman purchased tether, safety harness, safety vest.


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 2h2 hours ago
We’re back — #NathanCarman’s receipt from West Marine in Middletown is being shown. Carman went there before he left on the fishing trip with his mother. Bought 2 tethers and 2 harnesses. Only one harness doubled as a life preserver. @ABC6


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Carman also went "at least twice" to a marine story in Narragansset.


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 2h2 hours ago
Putty stick and fiberglass repair kit not seen on any of Carman’s West Marine receipts. He’s said throughout this trial that he used those items to fix his boat. These receipts were found by attorney for insurance companies, not submitted by Carman or his attorney @ABC6


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Plaintiff attorney, David Farrell, asking why invoice never produced during discovery.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Now, Farrell questioning Carman about his account of conditions while on the life raft. Carman says he was on the life raft for seven days.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Farrell reading from Vermont deposition when Carman says he was frequently cold, wet while on the life raft. Said he was uncomfortably cold at periods of time. Never said he was hot.
Carman: They asked me if I was cold, so I was describing the account to which I was cold


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Earlier today, Carman described time as being very hot on some days, cooler on others. But blankets, sleeping bag comfortable at times.


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 2h2 hours ago
Attorney for insurance companies finishes up his questioning by asking Carman if he’s seen the movie “Cast Away”. Carman responds that he hasn’t. With that, Carman is done with his testimony. @ABC6


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Carman estimates the ship that rescued him was 30 yards away when he yelled, got their attention.

End of questioning for Carman.
 
Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Plaintiffs want to call N. Stuart Harris, doctor who would testify whether Carman could survive for seven days through conditions as described.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Judge says he doesn't see Harris' testimony as relevant, but plaintiffs wanted to call anyway. Plaintiffs enter Harris as "wilderness doctor"


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 2h2 hours ago
Dr. Norman Harris takes the stand. He’s a wilderness doctor skilled in helping patients with hypothermia. He was asked by insurance companies to look at Carman’s case. @ABC6


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 2h2 hours ago
His testimony will be about the conditions that Carman went through at sea, and that it’s unlikely that he would have survived for a whole week. Judge says this witness testimony won’t play a factor in his decision on the insurance money. @ABC6


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 2h2 hours ago
Dr. Harris says Carman showed zero inability to move. If he had hypothermia, he wouldn’t have been able to move with ease. No sign of gross or fine motor skill issues following his rescue. @ABC6


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Harris says that, based on variables in record, says Carman's condition at risk "in no way consistent with even minimal hypothermia


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Harris says that if Carman were at sea for 7 days under the conditions he describes, he would be "extremely hypothermic" or even dead. Only need 3-degree difference in core body temp to see a significant difference,


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
"If you're anywhere near that range, you are profoundly" impaired physicall, no way you could just "will through it."


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Now going through pictures captured by crew members of Orient Lucky when they rescued him.
Picture of Carman standing on raft: "He's doing pretty well. That's pretty remarkable."


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 2h2 hours ago
Pictures shown of Nathan Carman’s rescue. Crew members on ship took them. Carman shown standing on life raft — “just standing up is pretty remarkable” after seven days at sea, says Harris. @ABC6


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Now looking at a picture of Carman swimming, grabbing life tube.
Harris says that the body quickly shuts down blood flow to extremities when at risk for hyporthermia, says Carman shouldn't be able to do based on account.


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 2h2 hours ago
Carman seen in next photos gripping rope of life ring, and being dragged alongside ship during rescue. “Somebody who’s at all cold, they’re going to be flopping into things” Carman shown using fingertips to not bump into ship, muscles Harris says would be the first to go. @ABC6


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Carman pictured using hand, fingertips to brace himself against boat. Harris says it shows someone who's body temp is "pretty warm."


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Now looking at picture, video of Carman climbing ladder up the side of Orient Lucky, estimates 30-33 feet hike, 42 stairs. Carman climbing as quickly as crew member.


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 2h2 hours ago
We’re now watching a video of Carman climbing stairs to the ship that rescues him with ease. Dr. Harris going on about how that’s unusual from someone floating at sea for 7 days. Carman tells attorney to object, Anderson does. It’s overruled @ABC6


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
For context, this is the Orient Lucky

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Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Harris continues to say Carman "is not hypothermic in the least." Anderson objects, asks to strike the opinion. Again, the judge has said he doesn't see Harris' testimony as relevant, but plaintiffs called to stand anyway


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 1h1 hour ago
Dr. Harris: “He’s not hypothermic in the least.”
Carman’s attorney up next to question, opens with asking how much the doctor is making to testify today. @ABC6


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Now Anderson (who has 45 minutes left) looking to discredit Harris' testimony. Asks if he's been paid $20,000 as an expert. Harris says he doesn't know how much, will take Anderson's word.


Michelle San Miguel‏ @NBC10_Michelle 2h2 hours ago
Defense points out that Dr. Harris is getting paid $8,000 to testify today. @NBC10


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2h2 hours ago
Harris says his calucation method scientifically tested, notes the Coast Guard uses it to assess when to deploy resources.
 
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Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 1h1 hour ago
Dr. Harris is done testifying. Next up is final expert witness from insurance companies. Richard Limeburner, an oceanographer from Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution. @ABC6


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 1h1 hour ago
Richard Limeburner now taking the stand. Plaintiff's expert witness to talk about ocean drift. He's going to talk about Carman's account of his life raft drifting.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 1h1 hour ago
Limeburner says he's family with ocean currents, has studied buoys. In the past, he was able to predict the location of debris from helicopter crash. Says they found the wreckage in 15 minutes.


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 16m16 minutes ago
Limeburner studied wind currents during the timeframe Carman was floating at sea. He said he would have had to be further east at the start in order to land where he was when the ship rescued him off the coast of Martha’s Vineyard. @ABC6


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 8m8 minutes ago
“I don’t see how a drifting life raft can drift upwind, upstream,” concludes Limeburner. @ABC6


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 9m9 minutes ago
Limeburner: "I just don't see how a life raft could drift up stream, drift up wind." Says data on currents, wind don't jive with Carman's claim that he sank somewhere in the area of Block Island, then drifted to the area he was rescued off the shore of Massachusetts.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2m2 minutes ago
Meant sinking site near Block Canyon, which is significant south of Block Island


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 2m2 minutes ago
Defense rests


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 10m10 minutes ago

That should plaintiff rests, but it's not my fault. Attorneys for Boat US (the plaintiffs) mispoke and I transcribed it as such.



 
Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 10m10 minutes ago
Defense, with little time left, calls Chris Roth Sr. He worked with Brian Woods on the Chicken Pox.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 11m11 minutes ago
Roth says it was a plug: used to make the mold that is then used to make other boats. Roth says Chicken Pox was "soaking wet, it wasn't a boat"


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 9m9 minutes ago
Roth thinks it was wood was some type of fir strips.
Brian Woods and others have said the wood was mahogany, which is a harder wood than fir.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 9m9 minutes ago
Roth: offered to cut up the boat and throw it out.
"It was just an upside down project from day 1."
Roth is a federally licensed boat builder.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 8m8 minutes ago
Roth says he drilled the holes to install the trim tabs. Says wood in between fiber glass shell was so wet, water came out.


Mike Savino ‏ @Reporter_Savino 5m5 minutes ago
Roth says boat was not worthy, but Anderson is told he is out of time. Already 4 minutes over.
 
Providence Journal‏Verified account @projo 5m5 minutes ago
Nathan Carman: As boat took on water, mom was 'more of a problem than a solution'

Nathan Carman: As boat took on water, mom was 'more of a problem than a solution'

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In testimony to judge, Nathan Carman says he called out to his mother as the Chicken Pox was sinking

AUG 23, 2019

"Nathan Carman, facing direct questioning on Friday from the federal judge who will rule on a civil lawsuit filed against him, repeated how he searched continually for his mother as his boat sank, but said he viewed her as “kind of part of the problem” as the Chicken Pox ran into trouble.

“I know when I got into the life raft I was yelling out: 'Mom, mom, mom,’ making sure to pause, if she was yelling out, I’d be able to hear her," Carman said in a response to a direct question on the search from Judge John J. McConnell Jr. “I was standing on the raft trying to see her on the surface ... there was swell but I do think I would be able to see her.”

Two insurance companies are suing Carman over the $85,000 claim for the Chicken Pox. Carman, in his testimony in federal court in Providence, has stuck to his story that he did as much as he could as the Chicken Pox sank and his mother disappeared during an ill-fated fishing trip off Long Island in September 2016....

The testimony was given during the last day of the trial that McConnell has kept strictly focused and constrained to 15 hours of testimony each from the plaintiffs and the defense...."

In testimony to judge, Nathan Carman says he called out to his mother as the Chicken Pox was sinking
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Nathan Carman finally reached the witness stand, but it wasn't for murder.

Aug 23 2019

"...National Liability & Fire Insurance Co. and the Boat Owners Association of the United States won’t cough up, claiming he sank the ship on purpose. If the insurance companies prevail, Carman’s testimony could fuel the criminal and civil cases circling around him. The aunts’ high-powered legal team who sat through the trial as spectators Thursday, were clearly hoping as much.

Robert Stein, a veteran New Hampshire attorney who specializes in probate law says this testimony, “could be another loose piece” that ultimately leads to a criminal or civil case against him.

Nancy Gertney, a Harvard Law professor and former federal judge, also says Carman’s testimony in the boat insurance trial “could be used in the homicide case” and handed over to a prosecutor. And Carman could have avoided all of this if he backed down from the $85,000 claim. But he didn’t...."

The 25-Year-Old Accused of Murdering His Mother and Grandfather Is On Trial—for Boat Insurance
 
Thankyou YESorNO for all the trial accounts. I just can’t get over why he would persist with this lawsuit, seems to have very little chance of winning and opens up huge red flags over the death of his mother. The aunties of Linda will not let this go so we are likely to be following him in one way or another for some time yet!
 
Thankyou YESorNO for all the trial accounts. I just can’t get over why he would persist with this lawsuit, seems to have very little chance of winning and opens up huge red flags over the death of his mother. The aunties of Linda will not let this go so we are likely to be following him in one way or another for some time yet!


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Closing arguments Sept. 4 in Nathan Carman sunken boat case

Aug 28, 2019

"PROVIDENCE, R.I. — A federal judge will hear closing arguments Sept. 4 in Nathan Carman's legal effort to recover $85,000 in insurance coverage for his 31-foot boat that sank in September 2016 on a fishing expedition with his mother believed to be onboard.

U.S. District Court Judge John J. McConnell Jr. heard arguments over the past two weeks in the fiercely contested case. McConnell, who is presiding over the non-jury trial, stopped taking evidence late Friday afternoon...."

Closing arguments Sept. 4 in Nathan Carman sunken boat case
 
EXCLUSIVE: Lawyer for man accused of mother’s disappearance speaks about case (with clip)

August 30, 2019

"...His family blames him for both the dead of his grandfather and the disappearance of his mother. But they’ve had a hard time making that case before a judge.

This has a lot to do with what’s called a slayer rule. The idea that you shouldn’t benefit if you kill someone.

Connecticut has stricter rules than some other states and the family would first need a criminal conviction.

Carman stands to inherit millions after the death of his grandfather in 2013 and disappearance of his mother in 2016.

His family is trying to block him, saying he’s responsible for both incidents. They’re appealing a New Hampshire ruling that says the issue belongs in a Connecticut court.

Jeffrey Cooper, a law professor at Quinnipiac University, says court location is crucial because of the slayer rule.

“The slayer rule goes back to Roman times, and the idea is that one shouldn’t profit from a wrong,” Cooper said.

But Connecticut’s slayer rule requires a criminal conviction. Some states, like New Hampshire, allow relatives to make the argument themselves in civil proceedings.

“In a place like New Hampshire where you don’t have a rigid statute, the judge is going to have a lot of discretion,” Cooper said....

Federal law has a three-year statute of limitations on charges related to Linda’s disappearance, but homicides in Connecticut have no such limit.

Meanwhile, Cooper says this case could take a while to resolve, even if Carman is never charged with a crime.

“Depending on the terms of the trust, it could definitely be a while before all of this is resolved,” Cooper said.

As for Carman’s trial with the boat insurance, both sides are due in federal court in Providence, Rhode Island Wednesday for closing arguments."

EXCLUSIVE: Lawyer for man accused of mother’s disappearance speaks about case

 
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Hartford Courant‏Verified account @hartfordcourant 4h4 hours ago
Judge hears final arguments in case of the sinking of Nathan Carman’s boat http://bit.ly/32nun80

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Katie Mulvaney‏ @kmulvane 26m26 minutes ago
Nathan Carman enters the federal courthouse for closing arguments in his boat insurance case @Projo

(video clip: Katie Mulvaney on Twitter )


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 25m25 minutes ago
Nathan Carman heads into federal court in Providence for closing arguments in his civil trial, 12 days after testimony was completed. Insurance companies are suing Carman over his $85k claim on his boat that sunk in 2016. @ABC6

(video clip: Amanda Pitts on Twitter )


Dave Altimari‏ @davealtimari 4m4 minutes ago
Surprisingly Judge McConnell is not putting time limits on final arguments in Nathan Carman case he is letting them “use their own judgement. Attorney Farrell starts off this is story about boat that left Point Judith with holes in it and sank 12 hours later.


Amanda Pitts‏ @APittsABC6 2m2 minutes ago
Closing arguments beginning now. Judge McConnell has not set time limits. BoatUS attorney starts by saying this case has become a lot more than just a boat that sank. Going on now about all of the modifications Carman made to make his boat sink. @ABC6
 

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