Ron C. #4

[nnglas]

Gee reading what other locals are observing with their own eyes about Ron's actions since Haleigh went missing is quite a departure from the picture you paint of Ron.

Nope, nope, nope. All of that is rumor. There is no fire when there is smoke. Don't you know RC is a boy scout, Im sure he has merit badges and everything. You are picking on RC. Everybody picks on RC. All of those drug arrest? He was being profiled. So what if he likes to date teenaged girls and contribute to the deliquency of minors? He is just misunderstood, and we are supposed to look the other way.

 

[raeann]

This is from the document thread. Could someone help me out w/the legalese? My stupid questions in red, bold also mine.

11/16/2004 - POSSESSION OF CANNABIS IN EXCESS OF 20 GRAMS, POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA, MAINTAINING A DRUG VEHICLE
WRITTEN PLEA OF GUILTY OR NOLO CONTENDERE TO
DEFT SWORN, W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO A/C, ADVISED
Does this mean that he first pleaded guilty and then changed his plea to no contest, or what? What's a/c short for? What does advised refer to here, to an attorney being present?

Notes:
2005-03-03 20 MAX PENALTY 5 YRS DOC &/OR $5000 FINE, PSI WAIVED, What does this mean?
2005-03-03 20 PLEA ACCEPTED, SENTENCING SET SAME DAY
2005-03-03 20 ADJUDICATION OF GUILT WITHHELD
2005-03-03 20 $370.00 COURT COSTS (6 MONTHS TO PAY)
2005-03-03 20 ADI PROGRAM - LEVEL II
2005-09-08 21 CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION OF ADI LEVEL II PROGRAM
2005-09-08 21 $370.00 COURT COST PAID
2005-11-14 22 $370.00 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE

Thanks in advance for any enlightenment.

:clap:

While I can not help much with the abbreviations, I have always been disturbed that people say there were NO CONVICTIONS.....pleading guilty or no contest or receiving a fine or agreeing to a diversion program are NOT DROPPED CHARGES! They are plea deals to get a lesser sentence, period. The first charge in excess of 20 grams means that the DRUG WAS WEIGHED, IT WAS TAKEN INTO EVIDENCE, IT DID EXIST! Saying there was not a conviction because the charges were false is ridiculous. There were admissions, fines, diversion programs and there was evidence. These multiple charges were very REAL and they are not evidence of occasional use or OOOPS someone else left drugs in my car......a WHOLE BUNCH OF TIMES!

 

[player]

Gee reading what other locals are observing with their own eyes about Ron's actions since Haleigh went missing is quite a departure from the picture you paint of Ron.

I don't want to come off as arrogant or confrontational. I have one question. Which other locals ? I guess that I see things differently. Do these locals no Ron or are they reading about him. I'm just curious. I see the people at the resturaunt, the stop n shop, the local garage all ask about how he's holding up and to give him their best. To that I tell them that if I see him I will.. Those are the locals I care about. the people that knew /know him as Ron..Thank you for letting me vent

 

[ladonna]

I don't want to come off as arrogant or confrontational. I have one question. Which other locals ? I guess that I see things differently. Do these locals no Ron or are they reading about him. I'm just curious. I see the people at the resturaunt, the stop n shop, the local garage all ask about how he's holding up and to give him their best. To that I tell them that if I see him I will.. Those are the locals I care about. the people that knew /know him as Ron..Thank you for letting me vent

LOL, I've been reading you for quite awhile, and yes, you have done plenty of venting in your little paradise. The locals I am reading may not know Ron as you seem to think you do, but they know OF him. Its quite a different Ron as you would have us believe. Being a next door neighbor of someone doesn't amount to REALLY knowing what that person is all about. We all have neighbors, and what their persona is in the neighborhood isn't exactly what goes on behind closed doors.

JMO

 

[player]

:clap:

While I can not help much with the abbreviations, I have always been disturbed that people say there were NO CONVICTIONS.....pleading guilty or no contest or receiving a fine or agreeing to a diversion program are NOT DROPPED CHARGES! They are plea deals to get a lesser sentence, period. The first charge in excess of 20 grams means that the DRUG WAS WEIGHED, IT WAS TAKEN INTO EVIDENCE, IT DID EXIST! Saying there was not a conviction because the charges were false is ridiculous. There were admissions, fines, diversion programs and there was evidence. These multiple charges were very REAL and they are not evidence of occasional use or OOOPS someone else left drugs in my car......a WHOLE BUNCH OF TIMES!

question with a question>> Could that 11/2004 charge been the same one that came up for trial or ajudication 3/2005 ? 20 grams is less than an ounce. I never said the charges were false. As posted the charge was 1 charge not numerous. An arrest in late 2004 and a plea in the 1st qtr 2005 sounds about right. Subsequently paid fines, did the drug program thing and went on with business. Current employment requires mandatory drug testing for hire and subsequent testing randomly during employment. I then have to take the drug thing off the table. a 4 year old arrest and conviction and an apparent 4 years of clean and sober. Just a guess, but I'd have to go with the apparent. Maybe he learned his lesson..

 

[player]

LOL, I've been reading you for quite awhile, and yes, you have done plenty of venting in your little paradise. The locals I am reading may not know Ron as you seem to think you do, but they know OF him. Its quite a different Ron as you would have us believe. Being a next door neighbor of someone doesn't amount to REALLY knowing what that person is all about. We all have neighbors, and what their persona is in the neighborhood isn't exactly what goes on behind closed doors.

JMO

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You hit the keyword, and I want to thank you Ladonna, OF. I know OF Barrack Obama, but I don't know him.. I hope you see where I'm going with this. We really never know someone and if we only know OF him then we don't him. Thanks very much. You know OF me, but you don't know me. Have a great day

 

[raeann]

question with a question>> Could that 11/2004 charge been the same one that came up for trial or ajudication 3/2005 ? 20 grams is less than an ounce. I never said the charges were false. As posted the charge was 1 charge not numerous. An arrest in late 2004 and a plea in the 1st qtr 2005 sounds about right. Subsequently paid fines, did the drug program thing and went on with business. Current employment requires mandatory drug testing for hire and subsequent testing randomly during employment. I then have to take the drug thing off the table. a 4 year old arrest and conviction and an apparent 4 years of clean and sober. Just a guess, but I'd have to go with the apparent. Maybe he learned his lesson..

I think that the original poster already answered this one for me, that this was a post of just one section of RC's overall arrest record. I don't think it's necessary to take up space by copying and pasting the entire lengthy record, but there are other charges to which he made pleas, paid fines, etc. I am not implying anything at all about his present usage status, but just making the point that these charges are SERIOUS and REAL...not just some minor or one time youthful mistake. Considering that this one occurred at about the same time that he was seeking permanent custody of the children, I take this one as VERY serious and do not understand how it was not a factor in the custody issue.

 

[cutiger]

LOL, I've been reading you for quite awhile, and yes, you have done plenty of venting in your little paradise. The locals I am reading may not know Ron as you seem to think you do, but they know OF him. Its quite a different Ron as you would have us believe. Being a next door neighbor of someone doesn't amount to REALLY knowing what that person is all about. We all have neighbors, and what their persona is in the neighborhood isn't exactly what goes on behind closed doors.

JMO

I am really glad to have Player here. As far as I can figure out, he is the only one here that has met Ron and spent time with him, Misty, and the kids. Been able to watch them interact together and get to know them. I agree that he may not really know them but, then I don't really know a lot of my neighbors either. I guess what I am trying to say is that if you have spent time around somebody you know them better than somebody who just knows OF them and is only going by word of mouth.

 

[Donjeta]

question with a question>> Could that 11/2004 charge been the same one that came up for trial or ajudication 3/2005 ? 20 grams is less than an ounce. I never said the charges were false. As posted the charge was 1 charge not numerous. An arrest in late 2004 and a plea in the 1st qtr 2005 sounds about right. Subsequently paid fines, did the drug program thing and went on with business. Current employment requires mandatory drug testing for hire and subsequent testing randomly during employment. I then have to take the drug thing off the table. a 4 year old arrest and conviction and an apparent 4 years of clean and sober. Just a guess, but I'd have to go with the apparent. Maybe he learned his lesson..

I hear that Crystal has admitted doing drugs on national television yet has had no drug related arrests. So...what does the absence of arrests tell us? Not a lot. I do hope that you're right and he has cleaned up his act.

Yes, the arrest and the court details were part of the same record.

 

[kamky]

LOL, I've been reading you for quite awhile, and yes, you have done plenty of venting in your little paradise. The locals I am reading may not know Ron as you seem to think you do, but they know OF him. Its quite a different Ron as you would have us believe. Being a next door neighbor of someone doesn't amount to REALLY knowing what that person is all about. We all have neighbors, and what their persona is in the neighborhood isn't exactly what goes on behind closed doors.

JMO

Then again, how long does a person's reputation as a hellraiser from when they were in their late teens and early twenties have to stick with them after they have outgrown that phase in their life? We know Ron didn't finish his education and we can see he has made some mistakes in the past. But, there is evidence that he has matured since he had children. Player has given us many examples of what he has witnessed in these happy children who adore their Dad. To me this says a great deal. I don't think Ron is a perfect person, but he secured employment and made a home for his children. He is a victim in this mess also, and it isn't fair to assasinate his character based on his social mannerisms or on rumor and hearsay.
LE will eventually get to the bottom of things and we all hope will find Haleigh safe. At that time, it will be appropriate to demonize whoever is responsible. If Ron is involved, I suspect that Player would be at the head of the line.

 

[player]

I hear that Crystal has admitted doing drugs on national television yet has had no drug related arrests. So...what does the absence of arrests tell us? Not a lot. I do hope that you're right and he has cleaned up his act.

Yes, the arrest and the court details were part of the same record.

I am not sure of Crystals drug record. I do remember that someone posted it early on. I didn't keep it, because I didn't find it having a bearing on finding Haliegh. I'm only here to see if I can be of any assistance in finding her. I really don't like being a defense lawyer or an inuendo crusher. I really only want Haliegh returned safe. If everyone feels that 4-5 year old drug convictions will get us any closer then I'll sit back and shut up..

 

[nnglas]

I am not sure of Crystals drug record. I do remember that someone posted it early on. I didn't keep it, because I didn't find it having a bearing on finding Haliegh. I'm only here to see if I can be of any assistance in finding her. I really don't like being a defense lawyer or an inuendo crusher. I really only want Haliegh returned safe. If everyone feels that 4-5 year old drug convictions will get us any closer then I'll sit back and shut up..

You are right player. It is getting no closer to Haleigh. Frankly, I'm disgusted with all of them. I fear this is becoming a cold case. I think they need to put aside their differences right now and look for Haleigh. Perhaps they can try to pressure LE.

 

[player]

You are right player. It is getting no closer to Haleigh. Frankly, I'm disgusted with all of them. I fear this is becoming a cold case. I think they need to put aside their differences right now and look for Haleigh. Perhaps they can try to pressure LE.

SPOT ON !! We should pressure LE. It may sound as if they're not doing much, but to let this case go cold is a travesty. I believe they should release some pertinent information to the public and see if that might awaken someone someplace.

 

[player]

To Kamky.. If the final tally places this on Ron.. I will be the first to say that I errored and it will never happen again. I am staking my reputation as an excellent judge of character on my beliefs in Ron. I know of 4500 people that I represented in my 9000 man/woman local that would tell you that I am a good judge of character and characters..

 

[player]

Gotta run.. I have to do some chores befor it gets too hot.
already 77 and sunny... Another beautiful day in Paradise.. Have a great day all..

 

[Donjeta]

I am not sure of Crystals drug record. I do remember that someone posted it early on. I didn't keep it, because I didn't find it having a bearing on finding Haliegh. I'm only here to see if I can be of any assistance in finding her. I really don't like being a defense lawyer or an inuendo crusher. I really only want Haliegh returned safe. If everyone feels that 4-5 year old drug convictions will get us any closer then I'll sit back and shut up..

I think you may spare yourself the lawyer duty as he has hired an attorney.

No doubt we all want Haleigh back safe; that's the common ground everyone will agree on. I didn't say that old drug convictions will bring her back, I just asked a question about legal terms. However, I do think that children are not safe in the custody of current drug users.

 

[cuppy199]

LOL, I've been reading you for quite awhile, and yes, you have done plenty of venting in your little paradise. The locals I am reading may not know Ron as you seem to think you do, but they know OF him. Its quite a different Ron as you would have us believe. Being a next door neighbor of someone doesn't amount to REALLY knowing what that person is all about. We all have neighbors, and what their persona is in the neighborhood isn't exactly what goes on behind closed doors.

JMO

And being locals doesnt amount to really knowing what that person is all about either. I will be honest I dont take just anyone's word on anything on the net. Anyone can say anything or be anyone on the net as we have learned in the past. I will how ever take LE word for it and so far LE hasnt said anything about Ronald being involved and until then I will wait to pass judgement.

 

[Indigo]

I don't understand what you are trying to say. The 1 drug charge was posted and I replied to that. My knowledge of Ron says he only had the one conviction on his record for simple possession. I was responding to that post. I didn't take a post from another thread. Did I do something wrong here ?

When asked why Ron had so few convictions relative to his numerous drug charges, Ron's sister ( Crystal) said this:

C. CUMMINGS: Right. It is my understanding that he has had lawyers cover -- cover his case. He was put on probation and successfully completed all of that. It was held for adjudication...

I know that he is not an informant. And not trying to be rude or anything, but for someone to get on the TV and say that is actually putting his life in danger and his other child`s.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/25/ijvm.01.html


This indicates that Ron was guilty as charged and completed a program to avoid prosecution.

 

[Emeralgem]

Sorry player but I'm not convinced he is a good parent..And the ONLY excellence I see coming from him thus far is his ability to attempt to fool the masses...IMHO he has failed miserably..I pray that LE in your area is not capable of being fooled ....

 

[Tom'sGirl]

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