Australia Samantha Murphy, 51, last seen leaving her property to go for a run in the Canadian State Forest, Ballarat 100km NW of Melbourne, 4 Feb 2024 #3

[Dotta]

Whoever (+/- parties) did this will be brought to justice, absolutely abysmal and those kids, I think about them.

And I think about her elderly parents.
The grief might kill them

 

[bearbear]

They believe Samantha made her own way to the Mt. Clear area

they said she travelled 7kms to get there

 

[Deleted member 293720]

they said she travelled 7kms to get there

Sounds like someone / persons were waiting for her

 

[OptimusLime]

And I think about her elderly parents.
The grief might kill them

I meant to add that too. I usually don't get too emotional with cases that pique my interest, but I have tears in my eyes.

 

[bearbear]

i wonder if she had arranged to meet up with someone on her run and that persons phone signals been picked up?

 

[MrJ]

In a general sense and not saying this is what happened. How cowardly someone must be to take someone else’s life. Especially if they are a beloved family and community member.

 

[Liadan]

Interesting what or who led them to the first search area? Obviously, they hadn't had the advantage of the phone ping data, etc. But this Mt Clear pathway seems a lot more feasible to complete in her morning timeframe given she was heading to brunch. (But this is a guess since I have no clue what the running tracks look like just thinking of closeness to home.)

 

[kiwi50]

So was her phone actually pinging all day until 5pm?

 

[BGirl88]

Interesting what or who led them to the first search area? Obviously, they hadn't had the advantage of the phone ping data, etc. But this Mt Clear pathway seems a lot more feasible to complete in her morning timeframe given she was heading to brunch. (But this is a guess since I have no clue what the running tracks look like just thinking of closeness to home.)

I recall she had also mentioned the night before that she was going for a 14km run. That would make Mt Clear her half way mark / turnaround point.

 

[Deleted member 293720]

Samantha’s husband is not a suspect but everyone in her life is a POI…

Make what you will of that comment

You don't know if someone helped organised this, but might not have been involved with her disappearance. Yet someone had to know what running track she was running on, approx what time it would take her to be at Mount Clear so someone/ persons would sadly most likely be waiting to demise her, it sounds like this has been well planned, including the right area to meet her and the belief her body has been removed. A lot of careful work gone into this and it points to something bigger is going on

 

[BGirl88]

So was her phone actually pinging all day until 5pm?

I’m thinking that the new phone data is more than pings. They’ve obviously been able to ascertain GPS data from phone or watch, but it must have taken some time for them to get hold of that data. Perhaps that’s what the new detectives were skilled at.

 

[drsleuth]

Daily Mail clickbait headline:

BREAKING NEWSSamantha Murphy's husband declared a 'person of interest' in investigation as police reveal they're now looking for her body​

They go on to say ALL people in Samantha’s life are persons of interest.

Sam Murphy's husband person of interest along with family and friends

Police are speaking to everyone in Samantha Murphy's life as part of the investigation into her disappearance, including family, friends and work colleagues - and believe it is unlikely that she is alive.

www.dailymail.co.uk

“At this stage he is not (a suspect). Everyone in relation to Samantha is a person of interest. In our investigation we are speaking to everyone that was in her life.”

I see they've slightly adjusted their headline

Samantha Murphy's husband 'a person of interest' in investigation along with family and friends - as police reveal they're now looking for her body​

Sam Murphy's husband person of interest along with family and friends

Police are speaking to everyone in Samantha Murphy's life as part of the investigation into her disappearance, including family, friends and work colleagues - and believe it is unlikely that she is alive.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[BGirl88]

You don't know if someone helped organised this, but might not have been involved with her disappearance. Yet someone had to know what running track she was running on, approx what time it would take her to be at Mount Clear so someone/ persons would sadly most likely be waiting to demise her, it sounds like this has been well planned, including the right area to meet her and the belief her body has been removed. A lot of careful work gone into this and it points to something bigger is going on

I agree Nifty - I think well planned out, likely someone known to Samantha / her family / business (another reason why detectives are saying there’s no threat to the public). I believe the perp has been watching her movements and may have even tracked her from her home that morning.
Also, going back to the timing of the missing persons call to the police by MM. To some of us it seemed a little hasty - maybe he was aware of some threats or strange behaviours from people around them - this had MM, SM’s family and friends on high alert. When she didn’t show for the brunch, they got worried and called the cops. MOO
Definitely a lot more going on than what we’re aware of IMO.

 

[Deleted member 293720]

I agree Nifty - I think well planned out, likely someone known to Samantha / her family / business (another reason why detectives are saying there’s no threat to the public). I believe the perp has been watching her movements and may have even tracked her from her home that morning.

Another reason for family members to be told to keep their mouths shut.

It can be dangerous as well, knowing too much

Plus, it can fail the investigation and the perpetrator/ s know what the movements are with the police

 

[BoysTown]

I wonder if they have found something?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1760846120237011240

 

[BGirl88]

Another reason for family members to be told to keep their mouths shut.

It can be dangerous as well, knowing too much

Correct!

 

[Cedars]

That's a possibility, or I still have my hackles up on the "campers" that came out in the beginning, especially since the male camper somehow lost his apple watch which pinged in the same area SM's device last pinged.

Camper recalls strange man lingering near where mum disappeared from

Rebecca Agheli and her partner Michael, had rented a caravan for a weekend away in Ballarat, northwest of Melbourne , last Thursday in the hopes they may come across some gold.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Thanks. That is quite the story. 'One of the last persons to see her...er, 24 hours before she went missing, I mean. Did you think I meant that same day, oh no, of course not...

I’m thinking that the new phone data is more than pings. They’ve obviously been able to ascertain GPS data from phone or watch, but it must have taken some time for them to get hold of that data. Perhaps that’s what the new detectives were skilled at.

Yes, pings from towers have a wide potential area to cover, I believe, especially outside dense urban areas.

 

[BGirl88]

I wonder if they have found something?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1760846120237011240

It must be hard for them to do their jobs discreetly with all the media hanging around (and us commenting on everything they do ).

Thank you VicPol, I hope you can help to bring some closure to Sam’s family.

 

[Dotta]

So ...
Some think that there were other phones' pings near the crime scene.

How is it possible that perps took their own phones with them if the crime was so carefully planned?

Were they burner phones?

In my country there are no longer such phones -
all numbers must be attached to personal data.

But
Of course, criminals might get hold of illegal phones.

Are burner phones legal in Australia?

JMO

 

[PolyDot]

Sounds like someone / persons were waiting for her

Maybe , if it was a stranger , could be someone who has planned -that person could be someone who knows the area well and has been planning an attack and was just waiting for an opportunity to arise . Or it could be a stranger and opportunistic .
Or if someone she knows ,her well enough to know where she runs .

It’s all very sad , and I hope for her family there is some closure soon