SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #30

[Seattle1]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629178488774066177

YES!!

I was just going to say how exhausted MM must have been. Unfortunately, she had it bad -- she'd been with AM her entire adult life.

Generally, women with a similar profile begin to see the light and question the gaslighting and manipulating behavior around age 40 but in this case, MM had both AM's alleged addiction and busy parenting (i.e., not having children until later) as self-denial crutches.

It's exhausting to listen to AM and his spin!

I think I need a nap.

Please save me some Scotch, bartender. xx

 

[CityKid]

This is hard for me to watch. I want Waters to pull out a dry erase board that has every event AM has lied about listed on it. And I want Cw to say each item and write LIE in red on top of each line item until he gets to:
I was not at the kennels (play the video)
I did not kill Paul and Maggie

say it out loud...write over it in red


and then bring that dang board right back out for closing arguments later.

Make the facts visual, make it audible, put it in writing.

The dry-erase board makes a nice tie-in to pill-popping' Doctor House working through medical cases.

 

[Walela]

Is he even a religious man?

I don't think he's ever been checked for the mark of the Beast but there was no smoke or smell of searing flesh after he touched the Bible so who knows for sure but I rather doubt it. There's been no mention of any family events that involved church attendance or any large stolen money donations to a church. moo

 

[10ofRods]

I just don't believe his story about being an addict. At least not to the extent he says he was using. 70 pills per day at 30mg each?? That's not sustainable. At least not being able to take that much and function on a daily basis. Plus for someone who keeps saying over and over how much he hates to sweat, he sure picked the wrong substance to abuse. I'm also curious how he has detoxed being in jail. That would be one heck of a withdrawal from that amount. Cold-turkey too unless he got preferential treatment.

The jails where I've worked have always had an addiction specialist on call. There are medicines given to ease the withdrawals and to block the effect of opiates in the system while doing something or other with dopamine so that the patient doesn't have such a terrible time. Some of these meds are given by injection (and I think it's like one shot per week but don't know for sure).

At any rate, if the jail psychiatrist says they need withdrawal meds, they get them. They ought to have put him through a toxicology panel upon arrest, IMO.

 

[meanddblj]

DH and JG resemble Beavis and Butthead at the defense table - they look dazed and confused but mostly dumbfounded.

 

[StrangeOne]

The defense has been very quiet today.

Maybe they too are riveted by this new story.

Jmo

Maybe they know he’s sinking his own ship.

 

[passionflower]

Simple ….why did a stranger kill MM and PM and not AM ? Dogs never alerted on a stranger let alone 2. Why did AM not fear for Busters life? Called a friend but not son?

 

[bamachica]

Watching L & C, good commentary—-but—-

It makes me crazy that this guy is/was an attorney and HAD to have anticipated that one of the 1st potential perpetrators in a murder is the spouse!

AM had to have anticipated they would first try to rule him out? Right?? So saying he doesn’t trust SLED, all the excuses and finger pointing he makes.

his new book “Waaaa” is hitting the local bookstores soon lmao. The arrogance and entitlement ooze out of this guy. Ugh!

 

[rescuemom]

Ok he's trying to cry again. I wonder if the jurors can see real tears.

 

[Betty P]

Prayers for all of them as this trial winds down and they feel the full weight of their role. It is not easy to judge another human being. They represent all of us as they weigh and discuss the evidence and their impressions and I wish them wisdom and strength and clarity as they do so.

Especially so int this case where jurors are from an area where everyone knows most everyone else and where the Murdaughs and their friends wield so much power and influence. Convicting AM will upset the local power ecosystem, more than it's already been disrupted. A lot of people's fortunes and status will be affected and feelings hurt. I hope there aren't jurors who feel a guilty verdict will result in the loss of a job, a loan called in, a raise in rent, etc.

 

[passionflower]

AM believes his lies sick !!!

 

[MrsWatson]

Things that don't add up.

"I loved RoRo like my own son."

Calls RoRo to come view his dead best friend and his friend's mother, whom RoRo was also very fond of.


Nope. Calls RoRo to do a little fishing. That makes sense.

Someone needs to give the defense our notes about using the twee nicknames, as well. I find it offensive, it's a schtick, surely some of the jurors are put off as well? I know it's a Southern thing, but he's testifying in court, a very serious formal setting, not talking at the town social.

MOO

 

[TeaTime]

Prosecution is beating a dead horse with the financial stuff.

 

[arielilane]

We should be getting a new thread shortly.

 

[Seattle1]

More:

At one point, the jury was making eye contact with AM, but not today

Will heard reports that jurors were crying yesterday and that is not true

I have to trust two other courtroom sources that described two female jurors seated in the front row closest to AM as wiping their eyes when AM was talking about PM.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Why is he allowed to argue with Waters?

Delusions of grandeur IMO. AM thinks he can out 'lawyerspeak' CW and make himself look smart. All he is succeeding in doing is making himself look like even more of a lying liar who is entitled, fake, pompous, uncaring, cold hearted, calculated, cunning and unsympathetic. I do see real flashes of utter rage in his eyes at times, I swear they turn black.

I hate to admit this but I felt not one ounce of sympathy for AM while watching the first interview with SLED the night of the murders. I thought he was guilty from the time I heard the 911 call.

They were all together with nobody else around according to Alex's own words until 8:45, one left and the other two were murdered. He did it for a lot of reasons, debt, drug use, upcoming criminal and civil cases in the Mallory Beach death, his fathers terminal illness, the stolen funds from the firm. His whole world was imploding and he exploded on Paul and Maggie because they were on to him about the pills and financially I believe.

JMO

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/cathyrusson

Remember #AlexMurdaugh phone recorded no steps or any activity at all from 8:09:52 to 9:02:18. Originally, you'd think this is him napping/lying on the couch but now he says that's not true. Waters asks him and AM says he must not have taken his phone to the kennels.

AM says he's not sure where he set the phone down when he got to the house after being with Paul and before dinner, but must have just set it down somewhere in the house and then didn't take it to the kennels.

AM says Paul was not inside the house when he went to get in the shower. This would have been some time after 8pm when AM and Maggie are both at the house, before eating dinner.

Waters shows this map showing Paul's phone was in the area of the house. AM says he could have been out in his truck.

AM's phone recorded 283 steps from 9:02 - 9:06pm. Waters pressing him what he was doing in those 4 mins to record that many steps if he says he just got up off the couch and was heading to his mom's. #AlexMurdaugh says what he WASN'T doing is this:

Waters points out AM was making phone calls during this 4 minutes while he was recording the 283 steps.

"I did not delete phone calls from my phone." - #AlexMurdaugh (records show calls were deleted)

Waters: "..you as a lawyer and prosecutor are up at 9:02, finally having your phone in your hand, moving around and making all these phone calls to manufacture an alibi, is that not true?" AM: "That's absolutely incorrect.”

"I never, ever, ever created an alibi.” -

Waters: Why didn't you just stop by the kennels when leaving for your moms? You were obviously trying to get a hold of Maggie...missed calls. Why didn't you just go down there? AM: It wasn't important to.

AM denies asking Maggie to come to Moselle that night.
Alex Murdaugh says he did NOT check Paul and Maggie before calling 911 and he doesn't believe he told law enforcement that. He says when he got on the phone with 911 then he went over to their bodies.

Waters plays interview the night of the murders. #AlexMurdaugh says he went to their bodies, that he tried to turn Paul over, his phone popped out, he tried to take their pulses. He says he called 911 but I'm not sure this is meant in chronological order - Up to interpretation.

AM says in the car that he called 911 "pretty much right away”.

Waters plays the part of the interview where AM says Maggie was at the kennels and he was at the house. "You made a conscious decision to lie right then ...." AM: I don't believe that was lying at that point because Maggie had gone to the kennels and I was at the house.

AM: I'm not sure when exactly I decided to lie.

AM says the fact that he had a pocket full of pills in his pocket, he was the person that found Maggie and Paul, his distrust for SLED...all of these factors made #AlexMurdaugh decide to lie.

Waters: Ever heard of the expression that not telling the whole truth is the same as telling a lie? AM: Sure I have. Waters: That's something you understood as a lawyer and a prosecutor? AM: Yes

Lunch break. Waters is not done with cross-exam yet. Court resumes at 2:15pm.

 

[Katrinepa]

Oh, so now we are differentiating between conscious and unconscious lying?

It isn't a Choice for him to make. It's how he has lived his life for years, and ingrained, so he lies All the time. It's automatic when he feel threatened. A Psychiatrist would have a field day with this guy, diagnosing Multiple Issues/Illnesses/Behaviors in the DSM(Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders).

 

[Skigirl]

Are you guys watching this on a time delay? Court is currently in recess for lunch for another 20 minutes...

 

[girlhasnoname]

We should be getting a new thread shortly.

I just asked for one.

FYI- Just saw on Law and Crime, the Officer wanted to stop people from leaving, until AM was removed, as apparently, there have been attempts at passing contraband to AM. Kinda like AM patting his sons butt-NO CONTACT! This family and their overpriveledged criminal Clan truly anger me to the max!

The Judge needs to start sanctioning their actions IMO.