Smelly Squirrel
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I don't read too much into CW's opening and closing statements, it was all true. AM's first recorded interviews in the police car were a disaster. He was fidgety, snorted snot, acted like he was barely affected at times and then suddenly fake cry. IMOSomeone noticed some coincidences between the jurors' affidavits and CW's opening and closing statements.
Possibly either BH was repeating what CW said and/or there is some confusion among the jurors.
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^^rsbmSomeone noticed some coincidences between the jurors' affidavits and CW's opening and closing statements.
Possibly either BH was repeating what CW said and/or there is some confusion among the jurors.
I agree. If memory serves during the "press conference" <derogatory nickname> and the others were talking about how they felt like they had to drive for miles & miles on dirt roads into the hills to talk to some of the jurors. (not his exact words but similar).Something else that I’m wondering about is also the fact that these jurors wouldn’t have said anything if defense counsel hadn’t gone door to door knocking. I am uncomfortable with this. Who’s to say that <derogatory nickname> and Griffin didn’t use the release of the book and the things the clerk said as an opportunity to rile the jurors up? Would the jurors have come forward on their own?
I think it’s troubling that defense counsel can go knocking on jurors doors to try to get something for a new trial. If the jurors come forward on their own it’s one thing. In this case the clerk’s inappropriate comments on the jurors in her book served as a perfect opportunity for them. Prior to the book coming out doors were slammed in their faces.
Something smells rotten in Denmark me thinks...I agree. If memory serves during the "press conference" <derogatory nickname> and the others were talking about how they felt like they had to drive for miles & miles on dirt roads into the hills to talk to some of the jurors. (not his exact words but similar).
Why were they so desperate to talk to the jurors? Could it be possible that the jurors were given some type of insentive to speak with them? Total speculation on my part. JMO
Their claim is that they heard some stuff was going on in the jury room that they needed to look into. The “whisper campaign” as they called it. The implication is there were rumors of impropriety with the jurors. So they gave chase and were shut down. The Heisman. Then the book came out. It’s not clear from the presser if they gave chase again or if the jurors came to them.I agree. If memory serves during the "press conference" <derogatory nickname>t and the others were talking about how they felt like they had to drive for miles & miles on dirt roads into the hills to talk to some of the jurors. (not his exact words but similar).
Why were they so desperate to talk to the jurors? Could it be possible that the jurors were given some type of insentive to speak with them? Total speculation on my part. JMO
Yeah, we don’t know yet if jurors came to them or, as you said, they tried again.Their claim is that they heard some stuff was going on in the jury room that they needed to look into. The “whisper campaign” as they called it. The implication is there were rumors of impropriety with the jurors. So they gave chase and were shut down. The Heisman. Then the book came out. It’s not clear from the presser if they gave chase again or if the jurors came to them.
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Murdaugh set to appear in state court, back in front of Judge Newman. Here's what to know.
A status conference has been scheduled in Beaufort beginning at 9 a.m. Thursday and will include Alex Murdaugh, Cory H. Fleming, and Russell Laffitte.www.greenvilleonline.com
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… It was also revealed recently that Becky was connected on Facebook with one of the jurors who went to NY, and Becky can be seen replying to comments on that juror’s personal FB page anytime someone mentioned the trial or the clerk. …
I hope there’s an investigation and the clerk’s computer is searched to see if she used work time and court records to write her book.
Co-author Neil Gordon was on a podcast just a few hours ago saying book sales have skyrocketed since the press conference. This is the best free publicity for this book. It may be the only thing that comes out of this.
I gotta agree with Eric Bland on this as much as I don’t trust the man. He said that jurors who rendered a verdict, got polled and confirmed it was their verdict and that they weren’t intimidated or influenced then come back 3 months later to say something else is bad for the Justice system. I think it’s bad for defendants, and its bad for victims/ the state. It makes a mockery of the jury process and deliberation. The appeal process is one thing but if jurors have to be picked apart post verdict we got big problems coming for the Justice system.
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Murdaugh set to appear in state court, back in front of Judge Newman. Here's what to know.
A status conference has been scheduled in Beaufort beginning at 9 a.m. Thursday and will include Alex Murdaugh, Cory H. Fleming, and Russell Laffitte.www.greenvilleonline.com
i realize the following reply is not an apples to apples comparison, but kind of similar. for many years i served as corporate secretary in a privately held business. as such i was privy to tons of confidential information and board liaison- aka- knew where the bones were buried. people thought i was shy or a prick. but, i didn't stand around and chat much. i was afraid something would accidentally slip. i can't imagine the clerk of court seeming so chummy w/ some jurors. i had overlooked the nyc group flight. she more than crossed the line, in my opinion.Yeah, we don’t know yet if jurors came to them or, as you said, they tried again.
We do know Joe representing some of them said they reached out to him right after the trial.
We do know that Clerk Hill attended with 3 jurors on their trip to NYC and, now as posted on other platforms and shown in her book, brought her daughter along to meet a music starts NBC during the juror’s trip. It was also revealed recently that Becky was connected on Facebook with one of the jurors who went to NY, and Becky can be seen replying to comments on that juror’s personal FB page anytime someone mentioned the trial or the clerk.
So many things are going to want to be examined by both sides. I’m curious if she would be allowed to be the Clerk for those proceedings or how that would all work out. Even if she didn’t change a juror’s vote, seems like there’s enough whispy smoke so far for the defense to want to go and investigate that fire. And the very well may have a chance to. I firmly believe they are not doing this solely because they feel like they messed up the first trial and now want a second, I think they are genuine in their concerns and want an investigation into more of this. JMOO though
I don’t think any of them are intentionally committing perjury but I don’t understand how one can vote guilty with less than 3 hours deliberation and affirm that verdict as their own in open court and less than 6 months later say they only voted guilty because they felt pressured by the rest of the jury. And I don’t understand why some say they observed others discussing the trial and said nothing about it at the time when they were instructed daily not to do so. And I cannot help but wonder whether the things said in the affidavits were accurate memories of what happened or whether things they have seen in media or conversations with one another since the trial or perhaps the way they were questioned by the defense might have muddied those recollections.Why does anyone think these jurors would commit the criminal offense of perjury for kicks?
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