we're not given the same protection. For one thing we're not allowed to go Home, relax and decompress. Here's a quote from http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/02/son-deceased ' The officer, Sean Wallace, thought that the man was holding a gun. It turned out to be a spoon. Shortly after the shooting, Wallace received five hundred dollars from the Albuquerque police union, which routinely gave money to officers to help them “decompress” after a shooting, according to a statement issued by the union’s president and vice-president. ' We're not treated with these kid gloves, but then again, I wouldn't expect to be. But I wouldn't expect cops to be treated this way either. moo
bbmI've been doing a lot of reading the last few days and unfortunately, I do think this is standard procedure. One article referred to it as ' decompressing'... so if they have a name for it, I'd guess it's the norm. smh, I could just imagine the reaction if us regular folks decided we wanted to go home and decompress after killing somebody. moo
I've been doing a lot of reading the last few days and unfortunately, I do think this is standard procedure. One article referred to it as ' decompressing'... so if they have a name for it, I'd guess it's the norm. smh, I could just imagine the reaction if us regular folks decided we wanted to go home and decompress after killing somebody. moo
SLED agents arrived at the scene at 10:29 a.m. April 4, about 51 minutes after Patrolman 1st Class Michael Slager fatally shot Scott in the back as Scott ran away. They later asked Slager to answer some questions.
When our investigators spoke with ... Slager at the scene, he said he was represented by an attorney, SLED spokesman Thom Berry said Tuesday. We stopped questioning him and contacted his attorney.
The agency has said that investigators developed early suspicions of Slager from evidence they found at the scene, but Berry for the first time Tuesday indicated the extent to which they pushed the officer to clarify his account.
After Slager deflected their request, the agents got in touch with his lawyer, David Aylor, who said he would make the officer available for an interview three days later, on April 7, Berry said.
Like many attorneys for officers involved in shootings, Savage has said in the past that the officers can better recall incidents after a few days of rest.
Very interesting article. Based on my understanding, it appears Slager will very likely walk. And basically it really doesn't matter whether Slager was tased or not. The struggle over the taser was enough justification for Slager to use deadly force. As the law is written, that is........
The argument should then turn to changing the law...... Otherwise we might as well give PO's the ability to shoot to kill anyone they :censored: well feel like.
.....and if Slager does get out of the charges does that mean he can appeal the decision to have him fired and get his job back?
SMH, the law as written makes no sense.
We have yet to see a shred of evidence that there was a struggle over the taser. All we have thus far is Slager's claim that Scott "grabbed" it.
What we do have, though, is an eyewitness who has directly contradicted Slager's claim.
I am no Slager supporter. What he did disgusts me and I think he should be found guilty of murder. However, if you look at the MSM link in post #4, you will see how an LEO only needs to *believe* his life is in danger in order to be justified in using lethal force.
Whether Scott "grabbed" the taser is, imo, a mute point. There was some kind of physical contact between the two during which the taser, two cartridges and Scott's baseball cap fell to the ground. It could have simply been Slager dropping the taser or bumping into Scott the wrong way causing them to drop. However, all he has to do is believe he was in danger.
I don't like it, but if the legal info/analogy in the msm linked in post #4 is accurate it looks like Slager could walk. Sadly, my opinion and the repercussions Slager should face may not be in accordance with SC law.
I wonder if the jury will take Slagers word that he believed his life was in danger or will they look at all of the evidence and see if he had a legitimate reason to believe that his life or anyone else's were in danger when he fired his weapon. JMO.
Does officer who shot Walter Scott have a defense? State law there - like in Missouri - is confusing
The police killing of Walter Scott in South Carolina looks like an open and shut case of murder. But South Carolina, like Missouri and many other states, has confusing laws on police use of deadly force – laws that could provide Officer Michael Slager with a defense, experts say.
Because of outdated and conflicting law, an officer sometimes can justify shooting an unarmed suspect who has fought with the officer and fled. In short, an officer sometimes can get away with what may look like murder on the video screen.
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St Louis Public Radio
I am no Slager supporter. What he did disgusts me and I think he should be found guilty of murder. However, if you look at the MSM link in post #4, you will see how an LEO only needs to *believe* his life is in danger in order to be justified in using lethal force.
Whether Scott "grabbed" the taser is, imo, a mute point. There was some kind of physical contact between the two during which the taser, two cartridges and Scott's baseball cap fell to the ground. It could have simply been Slager dropping the taser or bumping into Scott the wrong way causing them to drop. However, all he has to do is believe he was in danger.
I don't like it, but if the legal info/analogy in the msm linked in post #4 is accurate it looks like Slager could walk. Sadly, my opinion and the repercussions Slager should face may not be in accordance with SC law.
He's going to have a very difficult time convincing a jury that he *believed* his life was in danger when said danger was running in the opposite direction of the person who allegedly feared for his life.
Not necessarily. The first eyewitness claimed that both men were in a struggle "on the floor" (widely reported in the MSM) and in fact if you carefully analyze the witness video (posted to all the MSM sites) in the first few frames you can see that indeed the two men appear to be in a struggle on the ground.
If forensic evidence can back up the claim made by officer Slager that Scott "grabbed (his) taser" I think that it would be very easy to convince a jury that the officer indeed was in genuine fear for his life (I know I sure would be under similar circumstances) and that under the circumstances the killing was legal.
I agree the video of officer Slager shooting Scott in the back looks awful but it may very well turn out to be lawful.
How could that turn out lawful? How could he be in genuine fear for his life when the victim was running away? Forget about what happened before. How was he in fear for his life at the time he shot?
How could that turn out lawful? How could he be in genuine fear for his life when the victim was running away? Forget about what happened before. How was he in fear for his life at the time he shot?
One need only live here a few years to think their life might be in danger, or that he would endanger another. Walk a mile in our moccasin... :thinking:
He's going to have a very difficult time convincing a jury that he *believed* his life was in danger when said danger was running in the opposite direction of the person who allegedly feared for his life.
Legally, the prosecution has the burden to prove he didn't believe his life was in danger. (see St. Louis public radio link upthread).
IDK if Slager dropping the taser next to a deceased Scott will be enough to prove Scott did not believe he was in danger.