School shooting in Finland, 12-year-old shooter, April 2, 2024

[Rikissa]

Past decades?

17 years 1 decade 7 years
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Hard to compare usa to finland

Usa population over 334 million finland under 6 million.

United States vs. Finland - demographics comparison

If you just do a comparison from how large the population in a country is, your numbers will be wrong. You have to compare how many x (of whatever) there are on 100.000 persons to get a true comparison.
I saw that there had been 16 school shootings in the USA on March 6, which would mean 0,048 per 100.000, while 1 in Finland makes 0,18 per 100.000!

 

[Marantz4250b]

As far as shootings, well, a relative allowed him access to a gun. Perhaps the relative should be arrested - my opinion.

Well, the reports said that the permit for it was in the name of a relative but we don't yet know how the kid managed to acquire it.

I'd agree that there is likely a very high level of responsibility on the part of said relative, however.

I think that the "what are we doing wrong?" question posed by the other poster had deeper meanings, though. What on earth makes people want to do these kinds of things? It's just utterly bizarre, imo.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

What on earth makes people want to do these kinds of things?

Preteens and teens can sometimes get caught up in the "have to get revenge" kind of thinking.

Or, if they feel they "don't fit in", want to be "seen."

It's always been true, not some new parenting failure. But it used to lead to an after-school fight at the worst. Then people starting having guns in their homes en Masse and also not locking them up 100% securely. Add media to the mix, with its constant portrayal of guns, and some kids are going to do this.

To me, it's obvious the risk exists, and that's why I hold the gun owners responsible. JMO/IMO.

Opinion:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/08/25/1195680218/social-media-fuels-teen-gun-violence

 

[Dotta]

"Finland school gun rampage parents' ​

three-hour nightmare​

as they waited to find out if their children were alive."​

Finland school gun rampage parents' three-hour nightmare

Worried adults gathered outside the police barricade at the Viertola school in Vantaa, near Helsinki, where they greeted their children with tearful hugs when they were finally reunited.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[SMK777]

A 12-year-old has been arrested for a school shooting in Vanda (a city just north of Helsinki, part of the Greater Helsinki), where one child was killed, and two injured, all of them 12-year-olds.

Finland school shooting: 12-year-old apprehended after fellow pupil dies

Two other children seriously injured in incident in Vantaa described by minister as ‘horrifying’

www.theguardian.com

Finland shooting: Child held after pupil aged 12 shot dead at school in Vantaa

A shooting north of Helsinki leaves one child dead and a suspect aged 12 in custody, say police.

www.bbc.com

In Swedish:

Detta vet vi nu: 12-åring död efter skolskjutning, polisen gripit misstänkt 12-årig gärningsperson

En 12-åring dog i skolskjutningen i Vanda på tisdagsförmiddagen. Två andra tolvåriga barn har skadats. En tolvåring…

www.hbl.fi

For some reason I didn’t think anything like this would happen in a Nordic country; guess I was wrong.

 

[layer]

Hard to compare usa to finland

They sure treat murder differntly:
Prior to 2006, only the president had the authority to pardon a life sentence. However, since the 1960s, presidents have regularly granted pardons to nearly all offenders after a period of 12 to 15 years. In 2006, the legislation was changed, and all life sentences are now reviewed by an appellate court after 12 years of execution.
Source

 

[Gemmie]

My first thought was I wondered if he had been bullied by those he shot, or if it was random shots fired and it didn't matter who he hit IHO.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

I wonder how most victims' families feel about the court system there. (Not being sarcastic.)

 

[Gemmie]

I wonder how most victims' families feel about the court system there. (Not being sarcastic.)

So appalled that they might push for changes IMO. I hope they do and I hope they get them.

 

[dotr]

Apr 2, 2024 #breakingnews #finland #shooting
One child was killed and two others seriously wounded in a shooting at a school outside the Finnish capital on Tuesday (April 2), police said, with a 12-year-old fellow pupil suspected of the attack taken into custody. Olivia Chan has more.

 

[Elley Mae]

Finland school shooting: Bullying was the motive for attack that killed boy, 12, police say

Finland's prime minister Petteri Orpo said the shooting, which also left two girls seriously wounded, was deeply shocking.

news.sky.com

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If all the kids that have been bullied (including me) in school I can’t imagine the number that would have been killed.

Jmo