Hair lip is a medical issue that needs to be corrected. Which is completely different form breast reduction on a minor. A school shouldn't be suggesting surgery to a child as a way to deal with bullying. That is totally uncalled for.
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there is no comparison between cleft palate surgery and breast reduction.If the child had a hairlip, I think the school would be totally remiss in not suggesting plastic surgery!! They can punish children all day for bullying, but if a school counselor sees an obvious difficulty for a child, they would be remiss in not mentioning it to the parents.
Not like, well we can't possibly help you until you fix this. but like "um, this will make your child's life much much easier if you get the hair lip surgically corrected. This is causing her great pain and insecurity and will be the cause of insecurity for the rest of her life."
I don't know about this child in the original post, but has everyone seen that there's a brand new TV show - in the horrific vein of HoneyBooBoo, where everyone wants to sit and make fun of women with enormous breasts? It's unconscionable. Unbelievable. But reality. In the way that everyone wants to laugh at Honeybooboo and her family, everyone wants to laugh at women with big breasts. How truly awful.
Sometimes, it's a pure godsend that someone mentions to parents how to help a child who is being terribly bullied.
You are so right! And Cleft Lip Surgery is usually performed long before age 13, unless you are in a remote area in an impoverished country like Mexico or China, where they may not have access to medical care. I've been part of medical teams that have donated their services in cases like this. Repairing a cleft lip is not only cosmetic, it's medically necessary for nutrition and speaking.there is no comparison between cleft palate surgery and breast reduction.
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Way to go school. Way to send the message that the bullies are right, there is something "wrong" with this girl and her breasts.
I keep looking at this thread title, coming in, getting mad, trying to post while staying within TOS and then not being able to find the words to express how angry this makes me.
BBM. You and me both. It took me until now to find the words I wanted to to add without earning myself a TO.
I've given this topic a lot of thought and can only come to one conclusion as to why the woman made such a comment. The only reason anyone would make such a comment is if they had poor body image themselves and were envious. I can not think of any other reason a grown woman would make such a comment about a young teen.
It's no more appropriate for a staff member to make a comment like that about a students breast than it is for a comment about a students genitals.
I hope the staff member has already been fired. :furious:
For myself, I can not make excuses for the school staff member for making the comment in whatever context she meant. I don't care how sympathetic she was trying to be, there is never any reason to bring up a comment regarding plastic surgery to a students parent in regards to a bullying issue. There is just not.
I really feel for this poor girl. I was an "early bloomer". So much so, that the kids in school thought I absolutely "had" to be stuffing my bra. I went through 6, 7 and 8th grade being called "stove top" (for the stuffing). To this day, if I saw my primary childhood tormentor (Kenny P.), I do believe I'd try my best to deck him.
there is no comparison between cleft palate surgery and breast reduction.
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I didn't say cleft palate, which is a surgery that allows a child to swallow.
But I will say, there are women (I have a friend like this) who get breast reduction surgery because their breasts are so large and heavy they develop back problems. It's not just cosmetic, it's a health issue.
So we really don't know with this girl how serious this is. We're just having to guess. My guess is she's not just an "early bloomer" as some have said, but rather, she has a physique that could eventually cause her back discomfort. But again, I don't know. I can't imagine a counselor suggesting breast reduction surgery for a girl who blossomed early.
Additionally, the school didn't tell the girl this. They suggested this to her mother - and it's unlikely the girl would have ever heard about this had the mother not brought it to the attention of the general public, that the school counselor said she should get breast reduction surgery.
Considering of all the woman that actually pay good money to increase the size through plastic surgery, I am not sure why you think that is unfortunate.
Excellent post!!!:rocker:I could not have said it any better than you just did, Cubby.
Regardless of whether the lady at the school had good intentions or not, the mother went to the school about her daughter's bullying problem, and was instead told that her daughter should have surgery to 'fix the problem'. I fail to see how this addressed the bullying issue at all. If anything, it makes it seem like the school is blaming the child for being tormented, and for her physical appearance at that! Something that this poor girl has absolutely no control over. Way to show the bullies that they've won.
I'm not even sure a 13 year old would be able to have a breast reduction, considering she probably hasn't finished growing yet. I don't believe a surgeon would address the issue until she were a lot older due to this.
I didn't say cleft palate, which is a surgery that allows a child to swallow.
But I will say, there are women (I have a friend like this) who get breast reduction surgery because their breasts are so large and heavy they develop back problems. It's not just cosmetic, it's a health issue.
So we really don't know with this girl how serious this is. We're just having to guess. My guess is she's not just an "early bloomer" as some have said, but rather, she has a physique that could eventually cause her back discomfort. But again, I don't know. I can't imagine a counselor suggesting breast reduction surgery for a girl who blossomed early.
Additionally, the school didn't tell the girl this. They suggested this to her mother - and it's unlikely the girl would have ever heard about this had the mother not brought it to the attention of the general public, that the school counselor said she should get breast reduction surgery.
I could not have said it any better than you just did, Cubby.
Regardless of whether the lady at the school had good intentions or not, the mother went to the school about her daughter's bullying problem, and was instead told that her daughter should have surgery to 'fix the problem'. I fail to see how this addressed the bullying issue at all. If anything, it makes it seem like the school is blaming the child for being tormented, and for her physical appearance at that! Something that this poor girl has absolutely no control over. Way to show the bullies that they've won.
I'm not even sure a 13 year old would be able to have a breast reduction, considering she probably hasn't finished growing yet. I don't believe a surgeon would address the issue until she were a lot older due to this.
I didn't say cleft palate, which is a surgery that allows a child to swallow.
But I will say, there are women (I have a friend like this) who get breast reduction surgery because their breasts are so large and heavy they develop back problems. It's not just cosmetic, it's a health issue.
So we really don't know with this girl how serious this is. We're just having to guess. My guess is she's not just an "early bloomer" as some have said, but rather, she has a physique that could eventually cause her back discomfort. But again, I don't know. I can't imagine a counselor suggesting breast reduction surgery for a girl who blossomed early.
Additionally, the school didn't tell the girl this. They suggested this to her mother - and it's unlikely the girl would have ever heard about this had the mother not brought it to the attention of the general public, that the school counselor said she should get breast reduction surgery.
When Jackson called the school district to complain she said a woman suggested to me, "to have my daughter get a breast reduction," she told Fox2Now.com.
Considering of all the woman that actually pay good money to increase the size through plastic surgery, I am not sure why you think that is unfortunate.
Hair lip is a medical issue that needs to be corrected. Which is completely different form breast reduction on a minor. A school shouldn't be suggesting surgery to a child as a way to deal with bullying. That is totally uncalled for.