These people were not hardened criminals or murderers/kidnappers by 'profession', just opportunistic idiots who watched too much TV.
Are we talking about an intruder, or the Ramseys? Because I have often described them as such. Not only me.
These people were not hardened criminals or murderers/kidnappers by 'profession', just opportunistic idiots who watched too much TV.
Hello everyone, haven't posted in quite awhile. I read every night and since I had no new reading material, decided to pick up my Ramsey books.
The secret Santa scenario I believe came from a note found in JonBenet's trash can. The note was from a Secret Santa and I believe it said I love you or something to that effect. Patsy was asked if she knew who the author of that note was, and she said she did not. The note was found torn into several pieces and I began to wonder...
1. Who read the note to JonBenet?
2. Who tore it up and placed it in the trash?
Chiquita, my understanding, based on what I've read, is that Boulder PD found a Santa suit unrelated to Bill McReynolds in one of the rooms of the Ramsey basement, i.e. it belonged to the Ramseys. John Ramsey also referred to himself as "Santa" as well.
Bumping this post since it seems to concern our current discussion about JonBenet actually dying while in the basement.
Has anyone learned any new info on this confiscated Santa suit? TIA
I guess because the season has me thinking about Santa and with the anniversary of the murder coming up, this Suit thing has been in my thoughts. IIRC, the Suit that was taken was claimed to be a Ramsey suit by one of the Ramseys. You know, the ones who lie, get confused, can't remember, etc.
So, if it WAS theirs, does anyone recall any supporting information from another source about when a Ramsey might have used it? You know, the same Ramsey family that hired someone to be their party Santa over the years? How about tests of the fibers?
Most feel the Ramseys were at least involved in the cover-up of JB's murder. There is corroboration of JB expecting a SECRET visit from Santa, from the statement of Kostaniak, and adding in the torn note found in her trash as discussed in this thread, along with the murder occurring on Christmas night, the inclusion of the Suit taken into evidence just chills me.
I wonder if it was checked for DNA that might match the other DNA they are so convinced is key in the case.
If JR did not have hands on participation in JB's death, as I suspect, and believing that the R's were involved in a cover-up, the only option left for me to consider is that they were covering for someone important enough that their family would be under threat forever. While I believe Burke would have been capable of the crime, I can't suspect him. The flashlight was wiped clean, and no Ramsey would have had the need to do that since it was their household flashlight. No signs of forced entry, to have a non-family member involved would = Ramsey Acquaintance.
As I saw on another post somewhere, maybe we have to start thinking "RADI" - Ramsey Acquaintance Did It, with Ramseys fully in the know, and that leaves JR possibly prosecutable with charges of Kidnapping or Felony Homicide?
I believe the Santa suit came up in one of the Rs interviews and it was said to be a suit that was worn at an Access Graphics Christmas party.
As for RADI - I believe the Rs did the coverup, with or without outside help. I can't see them covering up for ANYONE besides their son(s) UNLESS they were involved in something so illegal/immoral that they were compelled to do so. If they KNEW who did it and it was not one of their sons then they had to either have been complicit (in other words, ALLOWED it to happen with their knowledge) or the "friend" had something horrific over them.
If they "allowed" it - I can't see them "allowing" someone to kill their daughter. But I feel what you mean is that they allowed someone to abuse her and she was killed accidentally. Patsy said "We didn't mean for this to happen". But I still believe this does not refer to someone outside the R family.
Iirc, the timeline was off for Patsy. She said John got up at 5:30 and showered and she got up shortly thereafter--5 minutes or so later. The time of the 911 call is indisputable (5:52 AM). Based on interviews with those in the home at the scene, Patsy would not have had nearly enough time to do all that she said she did in the manner she recalled it.
I'm only speculating but we had a discussion here many years ago about Patsy perhaps wore John's blue bathrobe to cover herself. The bathrobe is mentioned in, iirc, Steve Thomas's book and for the life of me I couldn't figure out it's importance unless either John or Patsy wore it that night (again, my speculation). Does anyone else remember this discussion?