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I luv my blankie at home - a white faux fur one..,mmmmm I may pull a towel from the dryer and throw it over me...:floorlaugh:

Oh my! That brings back a memory of a man that I was in a relationship with that always brought me a warm towel out of the dryer as I walked out of the shower when the weather was chilly outside and inside .



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Thanks so much for posting that - We so miss that show along with many others...No more All In The Family or Sanford and Son or Carol Burnette Show - those were the goodin's...now we have crap IMO...

RIP Jean Stapleton

You can find All in the Family on youtube. Aongl with Mary Tyler Moore, Rhoda, and many more.
 
Very well could be. The sex tape was another way Jodi could blackmail Travis.
Maybe the motive to go to AZ was because she was pizzed because Travis had no plans to visit her at all in June?
re: their discussion on the sex recording. Just throwin' it out there.

ElleElle, I was listening to part of the sex tape again thanks to Nancy Grace. Something struck me about the part where she starts talking about marriage -how she doesn't know if she can find a Mormon guy to marry b/c he won't be "freaky" enough, she worries about that, she still has a lot of "potential" (for freakiness?) left, etc.. This part struck me the first time I listened to the tape, too, but this time it seemed even odder. That whole part of the "conversation" doesn't fit in with the other parts. It's like she purposefully wanted to put that in there, something she had already thought about to put in the tape before she started recording it. And something about her tone of voice and the way she says it confirms to me that this was something she had wanted to be on the tape.

I think maybe she thought Travis would bite and say, "oh yeah, I would have to marry a freaky Mormon girl, I can't marry just a normal one....she would have to satisfy my freakiness"...or something along those lines. Or maybe even something like "yeah, Jodi, I'll always be thinking of you because no "other" Mormon girl can do the things you can for me." That would be a final blow for any potential wife for Travis if they were to hear that tape, because that would mean that Travis would definately continue the behavior into the marriage. That would be a direct link between Travis on the tape and Travis in their marriage.
 
Travvie visited Samantha in SoCal the end of May. He made her take that picture of them together. The motive was that Travis rejected her and she couldn't handle it and he would have no other. That has already been decided. She would be the last person he ever had sex with too. Black Widow.

I am sure that many felt the same shock that I did when she said that in the victim impact statement. it had never come out in trial that he had gone to California at the end of that month and had not seen her but saw his sister. It was a subtlety that none of the talking heads have addressed or have anyone else to the jurors.

it made a very big impression on me to put one more piece of the puzzle together which was not allowed or the prosecutor did not present.

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Jodi told Flores that Travis cancelled on her twice. She said she knows he never would have come to Cal. again to see her.

She must have thought that her going away would finally "break" Travis....that he would somehow see the light, and ask her to be boyfriend/girlfriend again. Then he would come see her, they would have a wonderful time, maybe take a road trip or something. Eventually he would ask her to marry him, b/c he wouldn't be able to stand them being apart any longer. He would realize that he can't be apart from her.

So it must have caught her completely off guard when he didn't seem to shake a feather at her being so far away from him.
 
ElleElle, I was listening to part of the sex tape again thanks to Nancy Grace. Something struck me about the part where she starts talking about marriage -how she doesn't know if she can find a Mormon guy to marry b/c he won't be "freaky" enough, she worries about that, she still has a lot of "potential" (for freakiness?) left, etc.. This part struck me the first time I listened to the tape, too, but this time it seemed even odder. That whole part of the "conversation" doesn't fit in with the other parts. It's like she purposefully wanted to put that in there, something she had already thought about to put in the tape before she started recording it. And something about her tone of voice and the way she says it confirms to me that this was something she had wanted to be on the tape.

I think maybe she thought Travis would bite and say, "oh yeah, I would have to marry a freaky Mormon girl, I can't marry just a normal one....she would have to satisfy my freakiness"...or something along those lines. Or maybe even something like "yeah, Jodi, I'll always be thinking of you because no "other" Mormon girl can do the things you can for me." That would be a final blow for any potential wife for Travis if they were to hear that tape, because that would mean that Travis would definately continue the behavior into the marriage. That would be a direct link between Travis on the tape and Travis in their marriage.

ITA~ I listened to it in full the other day without distractions.

Yes, it seems like she wants Travis to agree with her that the sex with a "regular Mormon guy" would not be "freaky" enough.

He did not comment on that comment. She was just trying to pull him in again using sex as a weapon.

The sex tape still puzzles me, because it def sounds like he was enjoying the conversation and starts off by saying: "Let's be normal"...
 
I am sure that many felt the same shock that I did when she said that in the victim impact statement. it had never come out in trial that he had gone to California at the end of that month and had not seen her but saw his sister. It was a subtlety that none of the talking heads have addressed or have anyone else to the jurors.

it made a very big impression on me to put one more piece of the puzzle together which was not allowed or the prosecutor did not present.

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Yes, Jodi really thought they'd get together in June, Travis had not intentions of it. He even visited family in Cali. That tells me he was working on staying away from Jodi forever.
 
ITA~ I listened to it in full the other day without distractions.

Yes, it seems like she wants Travis to agree with her that the sex with a "regular Mormon guy" would not be "freaky" enough.

He did not comment on that comment. She was just trying to pull him in again using sex as a weapon.

The sex tape still puzzles me, because it def sounds like he was enjoying the conversation and starts off by saying: "Let's be normal"...

BBM

Hmm...I didn't catch that first line "let's be normal." I'll have to that part again. That is strange....
 
Goodnight guys I'm off to sleep! Have a fun pajama party tonight!!

It makes me happy to think how much CMJA is suffering right now with the spotlight off of her. No court to go to every day, surrounded by people. Nope, locked in a cell 23 hrs a day, just the guard to see. She must have gotten used to being in court all day for 5 months...basically a break from jail for 5 months. No longer, missy.
 
She must have thought that her going away would finally "break" Travis....that he would somehow see the light, and ask her to be boyfriend/girlfriend again. Then he would come see her, they would have a wonderful time, maybe take a road trip or something. Eventually he would ask her to marry him, b/c he wouldn't be able to stand them being apart any longer. He would realize that he can't be apart from her.

So it must have caught her completely off guard when he didn't seem to shake a feather at her being so far away from him.

Who knows what goes on in that mind of hers but some of the jurors agree with me that Travis rejected her for the last time and she could not live with that. Dr. DeMarte stated that someone like her needed control and once she lost that control, that was it - She had this fear of being "alone" - She was absolutely obsessed with Travis and killed him to set HERSELF free. And she truely thought she pulled it off. I heard the end of an HLN deal tonite where a guy said that people that murder might have a PLAN, CALCULATE and MANIPULATE, and in the end, they always leave one piece of evidence behind.....
 
Goodnight guys I'm off to sleep! Have a fun pajama party tonight!!

It makes me happy to think how much CMJA is suffering right now with the spotlight off of her. No court to go to every day, surrounded by people. Nope, locked in a cell 23 hrs a day, just the guard to see. She must have gotten used to being in court all day for 5 months...basically a break from jail for 5 months. No longer, missy.

Good Nite, friend - I agree 100%. It also is having it's calories delivered to eat in cell - no going out in the mess hall or whatever with her underlings...
 
Who knows what goes on in that mind of hers but some of the jurors agree with me that Travis rejected her for the last time and she could not live with that. Dr. DeMarte stated that someone like her needed control and once she lost that control, that was it - She had this fear of being "alone" - She was absolutely obsessed with Travis and killed him to set HERSELF free. And she truely thought she pulled it off. I heard the end of an HLN deal tonite where a guy said that people that murder might have a PLAN, CALCULATE and MANIPULATE, and in the end, they always leave one piece of evidence behind.....

BBM~ Exactly. :) It was in her benefit and only her benefit, she had to dispose of Travis.
 
Good Nite, friend - I agree 100%. It also is having it's calories delivered to eat in cell - no going out in the mess hall or whatever with her underlings...

Lock down 23 hours a day. When they let her out for court after two months she will go on a verbal assault.
 
My DH found a python snake on the deck yesterday .. So now every night he goes and gets 'Cyril' and we get to hang out with him .. This is awesome NOT .. It's like DH is 12.
 
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