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Arias to represent herself at death penalty trial
http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/arias-to-represent-herself-at-death-penalty-trial

"A judge ruled Monday that Jodi Arias can represent herself in the upcoming penalty phase of her murder trial, where jurors will decide whether she is put to death for killing her ex-boyfriend."

oh, and there's this - "Arias will now have the task of arguing a death penalty case just four weeks from now despite having no legal experience and no college degree or high school diploma. Arias got her GED in jail."

Now I'm even more sorry that we can't watch live!! This would be a hoot.
 
hahaha I couldn't believe what I just read.

Even those who represent themselves, don't they have actual attorney's sitting with them?
Will it still be her original attorney's since the Judge denied her request to fire the ones she had?
Can she appeal the sentencing part for not having adequate counsel, herself :laughing:
 
Where is the thread about navigating this new (to me) format of this forum? Thanks!
 
Hey all, I have been mulling over her motives here, and maybe she is also getting input from the defense team. If she goes wacko in court, the judge would have to declare a mistrial right? Then after the two mistrials won't JSS have to decide her sentence? That would be LWOP. Don't you know Travis family is cringing right now? One thing is for sure. She has proven she is insane. She has removed all doubt.
goodnight everyone.
 
Will she be able to keep the correct story straight when asking questions? Liars fumble and tumble so the jury will see the lies and what she really is. With the prosecutor there, it will be almost impossible for her to get away with anything....jmo.
 
JMO, she's a sneaky snake and has something nasty going on in her mind at all times. Can't trust her ever, IMO. What's her plan to try to wiggle out of the DP? Hope this turns on her big time. Hope she gets what she deserves.

Travis never to be forgotten.
 
Queen, where is your maid for the dishes? Does she have the night off?

Hi gcharlie:seeya:

"Oh, I know gcharlie, oh ,perish the thought...my dear, one must NEVER wash dishes or do menial work, after all, we're not animals...Reginald, fetch the carriage, won't you?" :dramaqueen:


I am a poor queen with no servants.

I am my dog The Queen's servant. :floorlaugh:


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"Her defense lawyers will remain on as advisory council. They declined to comment on the latest developments. Prosecutors also declined comment.

Experts say the move might not be such a bad idea given the gruesome nature of the crime. Arias admitted killing Alexander at his suburban Phoenix home but said it was self-defense. He was stabbed nearly 30 times, had his throat slit and was shot in the forehead. Prosecutors argued it was premeditated murder carried out in a jealous rage when Alexander wanted to end their affair.

"It's actually probably a good idea to represent herself," said San Francisco-area defense attorney Daniel Horowitz. "She looks like a vicious psychopath with a ridiculous defense."

However, Horowitz noted, the jury "may find her pathetic."

"If she can get just one juror to bond with her on some level, even if they hate her, they're getting to know her, and it's harder to kill someone you know," he said..

Phoenix defense lawyer Mel McDonald, a former Maricopa County judge and federal prosecutor, agreed that Arias doesn't have much to lose.

"I think generally that anybody that represents themselves has a fool for a client, but it also gives her a way, if she's out there making a fool of herself, to maybe invoke some sympathy from a juror," McDonald said."

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/arias-represent-herself-death-penalty-trial
 
"So, it seems that it is only fitting, that this individual that has craved the limelight, it is really only fitting that she now bask in a different kind of light: the light of truth.

And in the light of truth, you can see who she really is.”--Juan Martinez

Remember this from the trial. JM knows missy :jail:- how she "craved the limelight".
She hasn't changed and now she really has the "limelight" with representing herself.

I think something smells about all this and I'm wondering what the deal is with this new development.
Are Nurmi/Wilmott behind this little gem? Did they school her in this to somehow make an appeal later on
about something or other?

I'm wondering. Guess I'm very suspicious and don't trust missy :jail: and her cohorts in he((.


Guess I will:

"leave her to heaven, and to those thorns that in her bosom lodge to prick and sting her."

"Let not the royal bed of Denmark be
A couch for luxury and damned incest.
But, howsoever thou pursuest this act,
Taint not thy mind, nor let thy soul contrive
Againt thy mother aught ; leave her to heaven,
And to those thorns that in her bosom lodge,
To prick and sting her."


~Shakespeare's Hamlet. In Act I, Scene V,

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So will she be questioning witnesses? Will she put herself on the stand? I feel so sad for Travis' family.
 
Creation vs Evolution

Creation vs Evolution has been settled!

A little girl asked her mother, "How did the human race come about?"

The Mother answered, "God made Adam and Eve; they had children and, so all mankind was made."

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The confused girl returns to her mother and says, "Mom, how is it possible that you told me that the human race was created by God , and Papa says we developed from monkeys?"

The Mother answers, "Well, dear, it is very simple. I told you about the origin of my side of the family, and your father told you about his side."
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Barbie Doll

One day a father gets out of work and on his way home he suddenly remembers that it's his daughter's birthday. He pulls over to a toy Shop and asks the sales person, "How much for one of those Barbie's in the display window?"

The salesperson answers, "Which one do you mean, Sir? We have:

Work Out Barbie for $19.95
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Fabric Counter

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Age is Wisdom

A young boy had just gotten his driver's license and inquired of his father if they could discuss his use of the car. His father said he'd make a deal with his son. "You bring your grades up from a C to a B average, study your Bible a little, get your hair cut and we'll talk about the car."

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To this his father replied, "Did you also notice they all walked everywhere they went?"
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Urgent Heart Transplant

A man has a heart attack and is brought to the hospital ER. The doctor tells him that he will not live unless he has a heart transplant right away. Another doctor runs into the room and says, "you're in luck, two hearts just became available, so you will get to choose which one you want. One belongs to an attorney and the other to a social worker".

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The doctor says, "Wait! Don't you want to know a little about them before you make your decision?"

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Second Opinion

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"You aren't so good in bed either!" he shouted and stormed off to work.

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"Getting a second opinion."
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Country Doctors

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"Well, just as you did at the last house, I dropped my stethoscope and when I bent down to retrieve it, I noticed the preacher under the bed."
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I am passing this on to you because it definitely worked for me, and we all could use more calm in our lives. By following the simple advice I heard on a Dr. Phil show, I have finally found inner peace.

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You have no idea how freaking good I feel.
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Doctor's Stories

A man comes into the ER and yells, "My wife's going to have her baby in the cab!" I grabbed my stuff, rushed out to the cab, lifted the lady's dress, and began to take off her underwear. Suddenly I noticed that there were several cabs, and I was in the wrong one.
-Dr. Mark, San Antonio, TX
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--Dr. Richard, Seattle, WA
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--Dr. Matthew, Worcester, MA
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During a patient's two week follow-up appointment with his cardiologist, he informed me, his doctor, that he was having trouble with one of his medications. Which one?" I asked. The patch. The nurse told me to put on a new one every six hours and now I'm running out of places to put it!" I had him quickly undress and discovered what I hoped I wouldn't see. Yes, the man had over fifty patches on his body! Now the instructions include removal of the old patch before applying a new one.
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--won't admit his name
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The Rabbit Test

The Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD), The FBI, and the CIA are all trying to prove that they are the best at apprehending criminals. The President decides to give them a test. He releases a rabbit into a forest and each of them has to catch it.

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The LAPD goes in. They come out two hours later with a badly beaten bear. The bear is yelling: "Okay! Okay! I'm a rabbit! I'm a rabbit!"
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So will she be questioning witnesses? Will she put herself on the stand? I feel so sad for Travis' family.

BBM I don't know. Can she do that???
She will be questioning witnesses.
I don't remember what trial that a defendant represented himself and he did question witnesses. Who was that guy- I can't remember, but it was very distressing
for the witnesses, I read, to be questioned by someone who was the person who killed their loved one.
 
I don't know how this part of the trial is done. Will there be witnesses? Surely Travis' family will not be called, right? She's already been found guilty, so what's left to question? I guess if there's someone who can get up there and tell why she shouldn't be put to death, I don't know, this whole thing is crazy!
 
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Welcome to all the new faces here! Join in and have a great time!
 
From: http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/arias-to-represent-herself-at-death-penalty-trial


Arias, who has long clashed with her defense lawyers and tried to fire them previously — asked Judge Sherry Stephens to let her serve as her own lawyer during the second penalty phase, and Stephens granted the request.


RBBM:

JMO, but this was crazy for JSS to grant JA's motion to represent herself ...

Surprised ? No !

:laughcry:

Oh I forgot : Jodi thinks she is smarter than Mr. Martinez ...

Cannot wait to see Mr. Martinez ...

:juanettes:
 
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