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I can't imagine JSKS sentencing CMJA to anything less than LWOP. Aren't there other charges as well? Like firearm, etc? I cant remember. She can sentence her consecutively also, not concurrently. There is no way on earth, given the cruelty of the murder, she would have the possibility of parole. That and all her antics to disrupt/postpone/mislead this trial. I have to have faith justice will prevail.
 
lonetraveler said:
I thought I knew the answer to my question but wanted to reinforce my belief. Are the only two options for sentencing LWOP or Death? Is there any way that a Life sentence be handed out, making way for Arias to maybe be released in the future? I've come this far thinking there was only LWOP and death as options.
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The options are LWOP, LWP and death. Only the jury can give a death sentence. If they decide on life, it's up to the judge to give either life without the possibility of parole or life with the possibility of parole.
 
Zuri said:
I can't imagine JSKS sentencing CMJA to anything less than LWOP. Aren't there other charges as well? Like firearm, etc? I cant remember. She can sentence her consecutively also, not concurrently. There is no way on earth, given the cruelty of the murder, she would have the possibility of parole. That and all her antics to disrupt/postpone/mislead this trial. I have to have faith justice will prevail.
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There was only the first degree murder charge.
 
And let us not forget, the Alexander Family has a wrongfully death suit prepared to be served, once the sentencing phase is over. They may be back in court for that too, if CMJA does not plead guilty to the civil case.
 
Hez said:
BBM - Well, he comes across that way, but I don't think he is. Just another crook and liar that latched onto the convict and her 'cause', imo. :rolleyes: The convict didn't get a timely trial because of all the times she fired her attorneys and tried repping herself, as well as all the other delays she and her defense team orchestrated.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Dorian-bond/Phoenix-Arizona/Dorian-bond-Bond-investigations-Paid-500-for-nothing-Phoenix-Arizona-1084558

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Bond-...heck-3-days-before-xmas-still-wont-pay-235683
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IIRC it was said once here that Arias is entitled by law to a PI since this is a capital case. If so, maybe that means she gets a PI at taxpayer expense. And if that is true, I can see why this guy is willing to attach himself to her...it's a sure paycheck for a guy who may be having difficulty finding other jobs. It's MOO.
 
krkrjx said:
Even DP sentence is no guarantee a person will not get out. Sometimes that sentence is commuted to life and with that, there is a chance of them getting out.

I would like to see Arias get the death penalty but I am not convinced that will happen. I think this will go to the judge, who will sentence her to LWOP.

As much as I want to see her face when she hears her sentence is DEATH...I fear there is too much chance of something happening down the line that gets her a commutation to life. And when they do that they rarely say LWOP. They just say Life. And that means possibly getting out some day.

That happened to the Manson clan. Their death sentences were commuted to Life. No parole was ever granted any of them, but they have all had parole hearings. So the possibility was given to them all. I don't want Arias to have that possibility...EVER! Regardless of how remote her ever being released looks today, a couple decades from now many in positions that matter might still see the sentencing clearly while the specifics relating to brutality of the murder may blur over time. JMO.
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Good points. I suppose there is really no guarantees in any way, although in some states like TX, the DP really does get followed through for lots of people. The one thing I do like with the DP for her case specifically is even if she appeals for lets say 10 years or so, eventually the appeals run out if nothing is granted, and the sentence carried out. So one thing I am considering about the DP is there maybe less chance of her getting out with DP because she only has 10 years or so to appeal things.

Whereas with a Life sentence (with parole options), she has lots of time to figure out a way to get out or parole each year for 20 or 30 or 40 years and eventually parole board gets leniant.

And even with LWOP, there is all those years that someday/somehow she gets a chance to get out.
 
krkrjx said:
Even DP sentence is no guarantee a person will not get out. Sometimes that sentence is commuted to life and with that, there is a chance of them getting out.

I would like to see Arias get the death penalty but I am not convinced that will happen. I think this will go to the judge, who will sentence her to LWOP.

As much as I want to see her face when she hears her sentence is DEATH...I fear there is too much chance of something happening down the line that gets her a commutation to life. And when they do that they rarely say LWOP. They just say Life. And that means possibly getting out some day.

That happened to the Manson clan. Their death sentences were commuted to Life. No parole was ever granted any of them, but they have all had parole hearings. So the possibility was given to them all. I don't want Arias to have that possibility...EVER! Regardless of how remote her ever being released looks today, a couple decades from now many in positions that matter might still see the sentencing clearly while the specifics relating to brutality of the murder may blur over time. JMO.
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This was because California did away with the Death Penalty for awhile in the 1970's. Rest assured, Manson and his clan will never receive parole, even though they come up for parole hearings. I really don't see Arizona doing away with the Death Penalty any time soon. It's what Jodi deserves. The State wants the Death Penalty, The Alexanders want the Death Penalty, and so do I! Let's honor their wishes.
 
One would think that if a death row inmate's sentence is commuted to life due to a change in state or federal laws--that it would be Life Without Parole. That makes sense given when a person is sentenced to death it is assumed that it was the judge or jury's intent that they never walk in society again. A statutory amendment that changes their status to a life sentence should not take away the original intent of them never walking in society again. However, that is not what sometimes occurs.

I just don't want Arias EVER getting out. She must die in prison, one way or the other.
 
All the states with DP need to quickly work on their methods too. They are scrambling right now because the overseas maker of the previous lethal injection drug quit shipping to the US because of the DP.

Some states are trying to keep it private what drug they are using to prevent future manufacturers from finding out it is used for DP and have the same problem, but their efforts to privacy is being challenged in courts.

So some other states are scrambling to use other means besides lethal injection. Like previous methods that used to be considered inhumane. Like gas chambers. Serious considerations is being done in some states.

They need to quickly get their methods down so when JA gets the DP, they have a proven method for her.

After seeing all the tweets about jury selection, I am more optimistic now that Juan could actually get her the DP now. Before jury selection, I didnt think there would be a chance, but now I think it is at least 50/50.
 
Same here, Hatfield. I was thinking no chance she would get DP but now I believe there is a chance. I'm not at 50/50 yet, though. I still lean more toward her getting LWOP.
 
krkrjx said:
IIRC it was said once here that Arias is entitled by law to a PI since this is a capital case. If so, maybe that means she gets a PI at taxpayer expense. And if that is true, I can see why this guy is willing to attach himself to her...it's a sure paycheck for a guy who may be having difficulty finding other jobs. It's MOO.
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... and she gets to send him off to do the media interviews that Sheriff Joe denied her, on the off chance that the one 'magic' juror should be watching.
 
lonetraveler said:
I thought I knew the answer to my question but wanted to reinforce my belief. Are the only two options for sentencing LWOP or Death? Is there any way that a Life sentence be handed out, making way for Arias to maybe be released in the future? I've come this far thinking there was only LWOP and death as options.
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Yes, If there isn't death sentence then JSS can give Jodi life with out parole, meaning no chance of her being released, and she'd live out her life in solitary, away from anyone else she could kill, or life with it and eligible for prole in twenty five years.
 
I know I don't haunt WS like I used to, but I've got to say I was totally shocked today to learn that they identified Sharon Marshall! Why isn't there a banner flying on WS?!?!?
 
Lol they can call JM rabid all they want.. Fact is he got a guilty verdict on murder one. (Smug, very smug look on my face right now.)
 
MagicRose99 said:
I know I don't haunt WS like I used to, but I've got to say I was totally shocked today to learn that they identified Sharon Marshall! Why isn't there a banner flying on WS?!?!?
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Sorry, I'm lost - Who is Sharon Marshall??? :waitasec:

I put on "hold" the book "Gone Girl" at my library - hopefully, it will be in soon!! :lookingitup: I love the feel of a book in my hand, that's why I don't do Kindle...

:seeya: everyone!! Off to read the "Retrial" thread!
 
LinasK said:
This was because California did away with the Death Penalty for awhile in the 1970's. Rest assured, Manson and his clan will never receive parole, even though they come up for parole hearings. I really don't see Arizona doing away with the Death Penalty any time soon. It's what Jodi deserves. The State wants the Death Penalty, The Alexanders want the Death Penalty, and so do I! Let's honor their wishes.
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Atkins was the longest-serving female inmate in the state of California at the time of her death, on September 24, 2009, at the Central California Women's Facility in Chowchilla, California. Her death was one week shy of her October 9 1969 arrest, forty years before.



During the 2000 parole hearings , Paul Tate, Sharon's, father, said "Thirty-one years ago I sat in a courtroom with a jury and watched with others. I saw a young woman who giggled, snickered and shouted out insults; even while testifying about my daughter's last breath, she laughed. My family was ripped apart. If Susan Atkins is released to rejoin her family, where is the justice?"


Travis and his family need that justice.
 
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