SIDEBAR #33 - Arias/Alexander forum

[YESorNO]

(at about 5:23- Patti talks to JVM)

[video=youtube;i8no-vJXn64]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8no-vJXn64[/video]

 

[YESorNO]

Patti sounds drunk/stoned ? here or maybe that's just the way she speaks?:

[video=youtube;HYvhL2A8TTo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYvhL2A8TTo[/video]

 

[Rhozwen]

Posted by Nana46...Post #787 on Retrial thread:

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 16m16 minutes ago

"@courtchatter: BREAKING: *advertiser censored* sites listed in #JodiArias defense motion are KNOWN trojan horse viruses FACT."

Who knows whats up already!!

Didn't CMJA say that when she was there, he had a virus on his computer? She does speak in half truths, after all.

I personally feel this is a hail mary play by the defense because tomorrow court resumes and they have nothing to work with.

I do have a question though, does the def team HAVE to file every motion that CMJA wants? Do they have to carry out all her requests?

 

[Rhozwen]

Jodi Arias: The 'virus' that never stops attacking Travis Alexander

"... Within a matter of hours, it was verified that each one of those sites were known viruses called a "Trojan horse" virus...

Now knowing that they were a virus, it is highly probable that some type of routine virus check deleted the files. The State will have a computer expert clear this up and yet again it will be much ado about

nothing, ..."

http://www.courtchatter.com/2014/11/jodi-arias-virus-that-never-stops.html?spref=tw

Yes, when you don't have your computer on for a while, as soon as you start it up, the virus scan auto-runs. So perhaps this happened when the investigator was working on the the computer.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Patti sounds drunk/stoned ? here or maybe that's just the way she speaks?:

[video=youtube;HYvhL2A8TTo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYvhL2A8TTo[/video]

There are several photos of the bride and groom dancing and it looks like Jodi's asking to cut in and dance with the groom. anyway just a thought that went through my head.

 

[mck16]

Jodi Arias Claims That Cops Deleted Travis Alexander's *advertiser censored* Files, Ruining Her Credibility Her CREDIBILITY!!!! :silly::hilarious:


"..."This attack on Ms. Arias' credibility..." Nurmi writes in the motion -- but we must stop the sentence there.

Arias has no credibility...." Ain't that right

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/va...a_police_deleted_porn_trial_death_penalty.php

Didn't think you could delete files unless HD is completely destroyed ????

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

Did Travis buy his computer brand new or was it a rebuilt computer? Would that make a difference?

It was DeAnna Reids and Travis bought it.

 

[mck16]

OT---I can't believe it is 5:37 and it is almost completely dark!!! I think it must be bedtime.

 

[YESorNO]

Didn't CMJA say that when she was there, he had a virus on his computer? She does speak in half truths, after all.

I personally feel this is a hail mary play by the defense because tomorrow court resumes and they have nothing to work with.

I do have a question though, does the def team HAVE to file every motion that CMJA wants? Do they have to carry out all her requests?

BBM Did a little research on that because I also had the same question:

"...In the United States the defendant has the absolute right, however, to direct the course of the case Thus, for example, if the defendant is determined to be mentally competent to stand trial, the defense lawyer must yield to the defendants' decision to plead not guilty rather than insanity or diminished capacity. Where the defendant in a death penalty case directs the defense lawyer not to introduce evidence of mitigating circumstances, the defense lawyer has no right to override the defendant's decision.

A defense lawyer may not assist any unlawful or illegal conduct and cannot counsel illegal conduct. This means the defense lawyer may not further a continuing fraud or other additional future criminal activity. If, for example, the defense attorney becomes aware that the defendant intends to commit perjury, he cannot continue his representation of the defendant. Representation of a defendant concerning past events is not viewed as assisting the defendant in committing or perpetuating a fraud..."

http://defensewiki.ibj.org/index.php/Relationship_between_Defense_Lawyer_and_Defendant

 

[YESorNO]

OT---I can't believe it is 5:37 and it is almost completely dark!!! I think it must be bedtime.

It's dark here @ about 5:00. This time change is always :scared: for me.

I don't like it.

 

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[TrialWatcher]

I just saw this in a comment on a social media site and well, it sure made sense. The person commenting also saw it on another site. If it has been posted before, forgive me, but it's worth seeing again.


EVERY site listed was a known redirect for a Trojan horse that was infecting and hijacking browsers to those sites during that 2008 time period. Every one of the sites is listed as a Trojan redirect page. Every damn one. And most of the domains have since been dropped and been re-registered, ie the sites do not appear as they did in 2008 nor are they owned by the same people.
The Trojan horse browser redirect explains why:
1) the virus message appeared on Travis' computer when police examined it
2) why Jodi claimed Travis said he had a virus on June 4th
3 ) the back to back days all the sites were "visited" - every site being a known Trojan redirect
4 ) Why it would suddenly appear to have been deleted. All that would take is his virus protection to finally notice it ( ie when this was hitting machines, virus protection had not yet been programmed to prevent it or disinfect a machine after infection )
There is stuff ALL over the web from that time period that talks about this hijack and redirect Trojan directing to those sites. All over the web on the big tech virus sites. But when he was infected, it was newer so none of the virus software would be updated to automatically detect and delete - he was helpless to fix it. However if the machine would be fired up at a later date, after any virus protection he had installed on the computer would have had a chance ot add it to their software and do an automatic delete. No matter how hard he tried to prevent the registry changes and deletion, firing it up would have caused it to repair itself even if it was in Steve Job's lap. ( and the tell all is the registry changes )
This is not evidence of *advertiser censored*. It is evidence of a malware attack.
They are going to need more than Melendez on this since he didn't even realize what he was looking at. They also need someone to be able to explain it to a judge who doesn't appear to be too tech savvy.
This Motion is based on a Trojan horse being in his computer when he died. That is it. Period.

Funny how good old Arias presented Travis with CDs and told the court of a virus? Now it makes sense. Staging the scene before the murder too? is no coincidence, it seems. Check out 2.33 below.

http://youtu.be/Z_M2C1kY7qg

 

[Rhozwen]

BBM Did a little research on that because I also had the same question:

"...In the United States the defendant has the absolute right, however, to direct the course of the case Thus, for example, if the defendant is determined to be mentally competent to stand trial, the defense lawyer must yield to the defendants' decision to plead not guilty rather than insanity or diminished capacity. Where the defendant in a death penalty case directs the defense lawyer not to introduce evidence of mitigating circumstances, the defense lawyer has no right to override the defendant's decision.

A defense lawyer may not assist any unlawful or illegal conduct and cannot counsel illegal conduct. This means the defense lawyer may not further a continuing fraud or other additional future criminal activity. If, for example, the defense attorney becomes aware that the defendant intends to commit perjury, he cannot continue his representation of the defendant. Representation of a defendant concerning past events is not viewed as assisting the defendant in committing or perpetuating a fraud..."

http://defensewiki.ibj.org/index.php/Relationship_between_Defense_Lawyer_and_Defendant

Interesting. Thank you for looking this up. :lookingitup: Makes me wonder if those times that Nurmi tried to quit he knew she was committing fraud and/or unlawful methods to conjure up "evidence".

 

[Rhozwen]

Let's see just what DB said in his interview that day again:

[video=youtube;okbAekjQVdA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okbAekjQVdA[/video]

My reaction to this video is to say Of course DB thought she was a caring, responsible and mature person. She mimics those around her because she doesn't know how to act otherwise. She was responsible and mature when she was with DB because that's the behavior that he presented to her. When she started with the "magical thinking" she was starting to copy the actions/behaviors of those she was spending more time with. ie. the prepaid legal folks. I imagine that they took lots of trips to various locations and had money to spend, whereas CMJA was on a budget and started living way beyond her means to keep up the facade.
The behaviors that she mimics are those that she admires in people, and I don't believe there's any more rhyme or reason to it. I think that's how she is able to find her way into people's good graces. She mimics their behavior back to them so they think she's fantastic. It's sad that some people can't tell when they are being had.

JMHO

 

[Rhozwen]

How about Patti Womack:

[video=youtube;--6YSPMKvIc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--6YSPMKvIc[/video]

She fears for her life but then goes on the Dr. Drew television show watched by millions. :facepalm::boohoo::liar::silly:

 

[ShadyLady]

http://forums.cnet.com/7723-6132_102-357905/*advertiser censored*-virus-help-please/

This is old, but, maybe something like this happened?? A dormant Trojan??

From answer #11:
Pranksters or someone trying to frame you can tap viruses to make it appear that you surf illegal Web sites.


Sorry, this is probably just weird, but the defense crap is getting old.

I wonder if Jodi had a friend that helped her put a virus on the CD she took with her.....OR she learned about it from searching on her own computer, hence the need to destroy hers....

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

315 of 2014 and 50 days of empty holiday commercials to go



1620 - Forty-one Pilgrims aboard the Mayflower, anchored off Massachusetts, signed a compact calling for a "body politick."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00JvKhZGQ-k&feature=player_detailpage


1921 - The Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington Cemetery is dedicated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-34AEOsHgQ&feature=player_detailpage



1929 - Andy Kirk and His Twelve Clouds of Joy recorded Froggy Bottom -- in Kansas City.


[video=youtube;Q8fjcIzc9j4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Q8fjcIzc9j4[/video]





1938 - Kristallnacht; Jews forced to wear Star of David

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lmNokqMziIM


1939 - Kate Smith sings Irving Berlin's "God Bless America" is performed for the first time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1rKQReqJZg&feature=player_detailpage


1958 - Conway Twitty sings It’s Only Make Believe to the top of the charts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kipXyKxRW_E


1966 - Poor Side of Town takes Johnny Rivers to the top

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xwbeSgEEe5M


1991 - M C Hammer prays his way to the top of the charts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7xNSgBkum7o


1996 - "The Wall That Heals" is unveiled. The work was a half-scale replica of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial The Wall That Heals that would tour communities throughout the United States.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qRgJb825G8&feature=player_detailpage


2014 - the world has changed and not for the better.

 

[Teresa]

I just saw this in a comment on a social media site and well, it sure made sense. The person commenting also saw it on another site. If it has been posted before, forgive me, but it's worth seeing again.


EVERY site listed was a known redirect for a Trojan horse that was infecting and hijacking browsers to those sites during that 2008 time period. Every one of the sites is listed as a Trojan redirect page. Every damn one. And most of the domains have since been dropped and been re-registered, ie the sites do not appear as they did in 2008 nor are they owned by the same people.
The Trojan horse browser redirect explains why:
1) the virus message appeared on Travis' computer when police examined it
2) why Jodi claimed Travis said he had a virus on June 4th
3 ) the back to back days all the sites were "visited" - every site being a known Trojan redirect
4 ) Why it would suddenly appear to have been deleted. All that would take is his virus protection to finally notice it ( ie when this was hitting machines, virus protection had not yet been programmed to prevent it or disinfect a machine after infection )
There is stuff ALL over the web from that time period that talks about this hijack and redirect Trojan directing to those sites. All over the web on the big tech virus sites. But when he was infected, it was newer so none of the virus software would be updated to automatically detect and delete - he was helpless to fix it. However if the machine would be fired up at a later date, after any virus protection he had installed on the computer would have had a chance ot add it to their software and do an automatic delete. No matter how hard he tried to prevent the registry changes and deletion, firing it up would have caused it to repair itself even if it was in Steve Job's lap. ( and the tell all is the registry changes )
This is not evidence of *advertiser censored*. It is evidence of a malware attack.
They are going to need more than Melendez on this since he didn't even realize what he was looking at. They also need someone to be able to explain it to a judge who doesn't appear to be too tech savvy.
This Motion is based on a Trojan horse being in his computer when he died. That is it. Period.

Thank you for sharing this! I was getting very upset about the current story from the defense and your post made me calm down and take a chill.

 

[rose222]

Things to do today while reading the retrial tweets:

1. Breathe in.
2. Breathe out.

(Repeat over and over again to avoid verreaction: )

 

[YESorNO]

Wonder what this day will bring? Should be interesting.

It's a cool 52 degrees, but I'm not complaining (it could be snowing).

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