SIDEBAR #33 - Arias/Alexander forum

[Rhozwen]

oops..double post.

I'll edit to comment on this tweet

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 9m9 minutes ago
Expert: "Travis was loved by many people." But they didn't know his other side. "This is why I said he was a master of deception."


So he was deceptive because he liked to have sex and not tell everyone about it? Nothing wrong with enjoying sex and especially nothing wrong with wanting to keep that private. I sincerely hope that the jurors look at these emails and ponder on them with common sense. The issue brought up in the emails is not that rare among people all over the world.
What isn't normal is slaughtering a man in his own bathroom. I hope the jurors keep that perspective and not follow the DT off on this winding road to Nowhereville.

 

[Dmacky]

OK guys. During this recess let's have a good laugh! I swear it's FUNNY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWjJNUzhck

 

[Rhozwen]

MC Superior Court ‏@courtpio 9m9 minutes ago
State v #JodiArias: The court is at recess. Trial resumes at 3:15pm.


I have to run out again in 15 minutes and will be gone for an hour or so. My car is on the fritz so we are down to one car until tomorrow, I have to do double duty being everyone's chauffeur. :juggling: :treadmill:

I'm not sure if I can continue posting tweets in real time, because will have to make dinner as soon as I get back home. Oh the woes of RL getting in the way of trial watching...:tears:

ETA: I don't mind posting the tweets today, so if no one wants to, I can back read the tweets and post them in about two hours.

 

[Rhozwen]

Dave Erickson ‏@ericksonvision 29s29 seconds ago
The #JodiArias trial needs more hipster kitsch. So from now on Martinez will be known as J-Dog, Nurmi as K-Dog, and Stephens as Tink.

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 3m3 minutes ago
NEW BLOG POST: Jodi Arias: Is the victim on trial here? #iseenewspeople

The defense has to convince the jury... http://fb.me/2wFdhQlQk

 

[Rhozwen]

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1m1 minute ago
We're back & Nurmi has already said "T-Dog" again. #JodiArias



I'm off for a while. :wave:

 

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Beth Karas ‏@BethKaras 6m6 minutes ago
Dr. Miccio-Fonseca on the stand in #jodiarias. For more on what she says is the Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde in Travis, go to http://karasoncrime.com/

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 6m6 minutes ago
Back from #JodiArias afternoon break. More T-Dog testimony.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 6m6 minutes ago
Expert- It's not like Travis has a split personality he's one of the same person but this is an aspect of him. #TDogg #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 6m6 minutes ago
Witness just said "debasing" re: Alexander's behavior towards Arias. That's one of our favorite words. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 6m6 minutes ago
This expert just said this behavior from Travis was...wait for it..."debasing" #jodarias #3tvarias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 4m4 minutes ago
"you weren't beating her physically but you were emotionally" -- Hughes email #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 4m4 minutes ago
Sky- #Jodiarias has been making excuses for you and saying you two just aren't together #3tvarias

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 4m4 minutes ago
Gotta wonder if #JodiArias defense is overplaying its hand with the repeated references to "T-Dog" Travis.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 3m3 minutes ago
Sky- The days of you making out with girls with no meaning ended at 25 yrs old #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 3m3 minutes ago
Witness keeps stating, "Love makes us do crazy things." #JodiArias

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 3m3 minutes ago
"Love makes us do crazy things": #JodiArias defense expert witness.

Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 2m2 minutes ago
#JodiArias Sky Hughes says making out with girls with no meaning ends with 25yolds

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 2m2 minutes ago
"It wasn't a perfect love, because why are we here?": #JodiArias defense expert witness.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 3m3 minutes ago
Expert- These are two people that care for eachother but how they do it is unconventional #jodarias #3tvarias

 

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Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 5m5 minutes ago
"@thegoldpatrol: Witness -we tolerate a lot of things with people we love. Male juror on back row shakes head as if he disagrees. #JodiArias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 4m4 minutes ago
"It wasn't a perfect love, so why are we here?" L.C. Miccio-Fonseca on #JodiArias and Travis Alexander. #understatement

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 4m4 minutes ago
Jodi did what she could to be with Travis and sex was apart of that. #jodiarias was in love #3tvarias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 4m4 minutes ago
"Mrs. Hughes is observing pain in Ms. #JodiArias and Arias is making excuses for Mr. Alexander." - Witness

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 4m4 minutes ago
Jodi and Travis both came from abusive homes and maltreatment #jodairias #3tvarias

Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 4m4 minutes ago
#JodiArias expert both Jodi and Travis both abused as children and that explains how they react personally

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 4m4 minutes ago
This shaped how they each learned to love #jodarias #3tvarias

Steve Krafft retweeted
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol 5m5 minutes ago
Calls their love “unconventional” - both come from abusive homes. Every juror is listening to this. #JodiArias

Nancy Grace ‏@NancyGraceHLN 4m4 minutes ago
Fonesca says Travis & #JodiArias' love was not a perfect love...'that's why we are here.'

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 5m5 minutes ago
"You learn about loving within your family." Explaining how they loved each other their own way bc they are products of abuse. #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 4m4 minutes ago
They didn't have a normal model of love #jodairias #3tvarias

 

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Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 2m2 minutes ago
"TA didn't feel connection with #JodiArias, JA felt even MORE in love w/TA. JA wanted him more bc of rejection

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 2m2 minutes ago
Once bedroom door was open Travis wasn't connected to Jodi. Jodi on the other hand felt more connected. #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 3m3 minutes ago
Again, I am surprised at the surfeit of objections. And again, having written that, Martinez objects to Fonseca speculating.

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 2m2 minutes ago
#JodiArias defense theme: "T-Dog" Travis was raised in an abusive home, acted out by abusing Jodi emotionally. She wanted love;used 4 sex.

Monica Lindstrom ‏@monicalindstrom 3m3 minutes ago
In email string the Hughes r also referring to a history that existed prior to #JodiArias entering TA's life @Momma_to_6 @wheelercynthia

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 2m2 minutes ago
Somehow "T-Dog" doesn't sound so cool when middle-aged academics say it. #JodiArias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 3m3 minutes ago
Witness just referred to Travis Alexander as a master of deception while looking at jury! Referring to him as T-Dog.

 

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Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 3m3 minutes ago
"@thegoldpatrol: The jury is hanging on every word of witness . #JodiArias listening intently as well. Nodded “yes” once."

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 3m3 minutes ago
Travis was the master of deception and his friends were shocked he was even with #jodiarias #3tvarias

Monica Lindstrom ‏@monicalindstrom 3m3 minutes ago
This isn't being used to "justify" the killing, trying to explain more about #JodiArias in the context of their r'ship @ItsKristinM

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 3m3 minutes ago
Travis felt a lot of pressure. He was turning 31 and needed to get married #jodiarias #3tvarias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 1m1 minute ago
We're going paragraph by paragraph in this email...#JodiArias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 58s59 seconds ago
Witness says from studying e-mails & journals, TA was devastated that he was getting older & single. #JodiArias

 

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Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 1m1 minute ago
#JodiArias expert could not testify about this in guilt phase bec wasn't her defense. But in mitigation it comes in try to save her life.

 

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute ago
Sky- "We love Travis and we love you but he's not available and not going to get over Deanna" #jodiarias #3tvarias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 58s59 seconds ago
"Hughes wants #TravisAlexander to understand #JodiArias was in pain and he caused that pain" -- Fonseca

 

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Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1m1 minute ago
The only other people to dissect emails for such an obnoxious period of time are hormonal TEENAGE GIRLS. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute ago
Nurmi says Jodi's self worth began to deteriorate, the expert says the Hughes saw this 2 & felt Travis was being abusive #jodarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 53s53 seconds ago
Expert- Travis couldn't be emotionally invested and he knew this and he wanted to work on this part of himself #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 2m2 minutes ago
.@jeffgoldesq is leaning forward in his chair and is less than 2 feet from telling us what kind of shampoo Sandy uses. #jodiarias

Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 2m2 minutes ago
#JodiArias again when Travis childhood abuse brought up, sister Samantha takes copious notes ...perhaps to refute for Juan M.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 9s10 seconds ago
Expert- This causes long term damage to ones self esteem when they are closeted and hide #jodiarias #3tvarias

 

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Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 39s39 seconds ago
@WildAboutTrial is so getting bored with this repetitive email he's tweeting on media posture

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1m1 minute ago
@jeffgoldesq I just used the women's restroom.

Monica Lindstrom ‏@monicalindstrom 53s54 seconds ago
SH to TA: Travis...u r a heart predator-u take great joy n making women fall 4the T-dogg-u laugh about what u can get away with #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 49s50 seconds ago
Sky says it causes animosity and the expert states it causes anger too #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 1m1 minute ago
Fonseca says animosity would be building up in #JodiArias. Nurmi calls it "a boulder rolling down a hill."

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1m1 minute ago
Witness is explaining that "Sky Hughes called it..." TA's behavior towards #JodiArias was building up animosity.

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 1m1 minute ago
"Travis with love, you are a heart predator." -- Hughes email #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 51s52 seconds ago
Sky- You take great joy making women fall in love with the T-Dogg. I'd never allow my daughter around this #jodarias #3tvarias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 1m1 minute ago
"it would scare me to death if my sister liked you. In fact i wouldn't allow it." -- Hughes email #JodiArias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 1m1 minute ago
Hughes to Alexander: "You are a heart predator...it worry me to death if my little sister liked you.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 1m1 minute ago
Sky- #jodiarias just wishes you would call her to say hi and not act tired on the phone. You keep her up late at night #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 59s60 seconds ago
Hughes to Alexander: "Women are fragile and you shattered a lot of them."

Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 43s44 seconds ago
#JodiArias: Sky Hughes says to Travis “You are a heart predator”It would scare me to death if my little sister liked you”

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 28s29 seconds ago
Sky- Jodi fofills the physical need Deanna isn't. But Deanna fofills all your other needs #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 24s25 seconds ago
Hughes tells Alexander that #JodiArias fulfills the physical part of him that Deanna does not.

 

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 11s11 seconds ago
Sky- We didn't brainwash #Jodiarias we let her know it was OK to feel the way she did #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 2m2 minutes ago
Over and over: "T-dog pulls for chicks."

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 2m2 minutes ago
Nurmi reiterating that Sky Hughes referred to TA as "heart predator" in e-mail. They've said T-Dog 15 times in the last 5 seconds.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 2m2 minutes ago
This experts voice is identical to Alice LaViolette. @Simma_dunn_naw Debs pointed that out and she's right! #jodiarias

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 1m1 minute ago
" 'T-Dog' pulls for chicks" says Dr. Fonseca, #JodiArias defense expert. Awkward

 

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Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 16s16 seconds ago
#JodiArias defense has done a good job of painting Travis as played Jodi to keep her on a string. If they continue, they will save her life

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 10s11 seconds ago
Deanna Reid is also close to Alexander but "in the dark." Alexander getting his needs met in different places. #JodiArias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 12s12 seconds ago
CliffsNotes version of testimony: Witness & Nurmi reading emails from Hughes. Reiterating negative comments about TA character. #jodiarias

 

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Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 48s48 seconds ago
.@monicalindstrom's chair making flatulence sounds as she exits is more interesting than this testimony. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 29s30 seconds ago
#jodiarias wanted more from Travis and to him it was just sexual #3tvarias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 55s55 seconds ago
Witness spending 10-20 minutes on all negative sentences, giving her opinion and interpretation. #JodiArias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 30s30 seconds ago
"It's clear that Ms. Arias wanted more than Travis was giving...That was a conflict for him." Miccio-Fonseca

Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 49s49 seconds ago
#JodiArias trial still a long way to go so lots of inhuman planning, premeditation to come from state. Making Jodi human is defense goal.

 

[ShadyLady]

There was no "weird sex" between missy and Travis, IMO. Some people like anal, oral sex and there's noting "weird" about that!
What is wrong with these "sex" therapists- they may be from the "old" generation, with very "old" ideas about sex, IMO. And since the "older" generation
didn't talk about sex, how did they know what others did behind closed doors. Must have never heard about Kinsey or Masters and Johnson.
They need more experts in the DeMarte age range.

I doubt they could find any young'uns with S&M books on the NY Bestsellers list.

 

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Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 1m1 minute ago
Engaged. Reading along w/giant email on screen. RT @mrk21000 @WildAboutTrial How's the jury reacting?

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 30s31 seconds ago
Sky Hughes says in email that Alexander was mean to #JodiArias in not acknowledging her in public. "You are being a jerk."

Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 51s52 seconds ago
#JodiArias issue is whether she gets killed now by state. That she murdered Travis is assumed. But only a very few murderers get the DP.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 41s42 seconds ago
Sky tells Travis he's being a jerk to #Jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 38s39 seconds ago
Nurmi says but Travis says he's treated Jodi better than girls in his past. The expert says that's troublesome #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 24s25 seconds ago
Fonseca muses on Sky Hughes email, "It makes you wonder, if this was better, what was it before?"

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 42s42 seconds ago
Can we all make a pact, right here, right now, that we'll never utter the words "T-Dog" after this day?

 

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William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 2m2 minutes ago
Martinez doesn't object but asks to approach. Looks like people are startinng to nod off in here. #JodiArias

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 2m2 minutes ago
Juan interrupts e-mail dissection and requests to approach the bench. #JodiArias

William Pitts ‏@william_pitts 1m1 minute ago
apparently nothing happened. Nurmi gets a drink of water and we're back to line by line through the emails. #JodiArias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 1m1 minute ago
Nurmi building case that Alexander only used #JodiArias for sex, barely said to hello to her in front of others. Martinez asks for sidebar.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 22s23 seconds ago
#jodiarias could have got the heck outta dodge, it had only been 4mon. But she pushed & pushed and couldn't stay away. That was me talking