SIDEBAR #36 - Arias/Alexander forum

[Kensie]

What drives me nuts is that JSS told Nurmi to stand when he "objects" and he doesn't and she says nothing!!!! :sheesh:

(she's not very consistent, IMO)

No respect and no manners.

 

[Ruby]

Hell, back in the day when it was apparently legal, :thinking: my parents had no qualms whatsoever about bringing out the "belt" to threaten bodily harm to (and/or use) if/when any of their five incorrigible little derelicts truly deserved it! We never got beat to a bloody pulp or to where we were seriously injured, but the back of our legs or bum knew that we did something wrong and weren't about to do it again! I also remember MY dear, beloved late mom chasing ME around her dining room table with her grandmother's "antique" "WOODEN SPOON" and she broke it over my (_!_)! She cried like a baby when it broke because she broke her beloved grannie's antique spoon. LOL I'm not in any way, shape, or form "traumatized" because of it. In fact, in my mom's senior years when she would be grateful or appreciative for me taking care of her, I would lovingly remind her that I was NOT a good, loving daughter since I had caused HER trauma when she had to beat my (_!_) for misbehaving and broke great grannies spoon over my behind! Her childlike, impish, senile grin made all my "abuse" worthwhile. I'd give anything to have my mom alive today -- hell, I'd even give her one of MY own wooden spoons and let her paddle my behind all she wanted to. Just sayin... Miss you mom...:loveyou:

:tears::hug: I miss my mom too!

 

[YESorNO]

I am still shocked at the killers appearance. Has aged 10 years in 17 months. I guess that is what happens when you are a convicted murderer.

She has a lot of problemssssssss with the truth and I think it's showing up in her face.

[video=youtube;Cd2_LKoTYKw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd2_LKoTYKw[/video]

 

[YESorNO]

Did you have a nice day Yes/no?

Yes we did- thanks for asking.
We had lunch at Burger King.
Bought my son a new suit jacket and a winter weight pea jacket at JC Penney (good sales).
Did a little food shopping.
It was a nice day- except my son has a tendency to drive with one hand, like his father, and it drives me crazy. I'm always saying "TWO HANDS, TWO HANDS". :scared::facepalm:

 

[Madeleine74]

It's very clear that Jodi via her DT is running this trial. Since JSS has no control and is incapable or unwilling to control her court, she should step down and let a competent judge take over. Or is it too late for her to be removed?

Jodi doesn't have control, the judge's fear is what has control. The judge has discretion to make the decisions but is so scared of the appellate process she can't or won't make any decision she feels has risk to it. Chicken Judge.

 

[YESorNO]

Does anyone here besides me think it may be unhealthy to follow this trial ?

Definitely.
I'm always obsessing with this trial and I'm angry and, at the same time, very sad (about Travis' fate at the hands of a psychopath and his poor family).
Can't be good, IMO.

 

[YESorNO]

Jodi Arias Trial Recap 12/16

"...Geffner goes through a number of trauma’s in Jodi’s life including abusive parents, abuse boyfriend (her first boyfriend held a knife to her throat) Jodi said that Travis was the most traumatic thing in her life. Yeah, it’s hard to find a bigger trauma than brutally stabbing and nearly decapitating a dude you screwed a few hours earlier...."

http://tamaratattles.com/2014/12/16/jodi-arias-trial-recap-1216/

 

[Madeleine74]

Does anyone here besides me think it may be unhealthy to follow this trial ?

Only if one is so emotionally involved that it is affecting one's ability to otherwise function (eat, sleep, take care of one's life and family). I do think cases can be an unhealthy obsession. When someone posts they are (literally) sick to their stomach or can't take this or whatever, I do wonder why they would torture themselves and not take a break from it. It's not like spectators have anything to do with the outcome, and we are all just spectators.

 

[neesaki]

Hi dear friends. :wave: Don't know what went on in the JSS's Circus Court of Arias as I've been out all day. Beyond that it's just a stressful day for me, so am listening to this, it is beautiful, calming, and serene. Hope everyone is having a peaceful Christmas season. :hug:

[video=youtube;a5j_XuATgRU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5j_XuATgRU[/video]

 

[YESorNO]

Jodi Arias Singing "Oh Holy Night" -Goat Edition

[video=youtube;trM3r2U4XQg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trM3r2U4XQg[/video]

Sorry guys- I couldn't help it- it's so funny. :tomato:

:tomato::tomato:

 

[YESorNO]

Hi dear friends. :wave: Don't know what went on in the JSS's Circus Court of Arias as I've been out all day. Beyond that it's just a stressful day for me, so am listening to this, it is beautiful, calming, and serene. Hope everyone is having a peaceful Christmas season. :hug:

[video=youtube;a5j_XuATgRU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5j_XuATgRU[/video]

One of my favorite groups.

Thanks :blowkiss:

 

[YESorNO]

The History of Christmas

[video=youtube;SfbVBl8IU-0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfbVBl8IU-0[/video]

 

[LinasK]

Steve Krafft @SKrafftFox10 · 6m 6 minutes ago
#jodiarias told Judge media in court wd prevent her answering questions in a manner "she truly means" to "fully actualize her mitigation."

Gag

In other words= to lie in secret without it getting out what her lies were. I thought it was Juan who scrambled her brain, not the media??? To Jodi, death threats=the Death Penalty!

 

[YESorNO]

Case Documents

Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
12/16/2014 REL - Reply - Party (001) 12/16/2014
NOTE: News Organizations Reply in Support of Request for Order Unsealing Transcript of October 30, 2014 Witness Testimony and Related Proceedings

https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa....rtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2008-031021

They're fast!

 

[Love Never Fails]

Does anyone here besides me think it may be unhealthy to follow this trial ?

It gets my blood pressure very high and I get angry. like my husband told me, Jodi was found guilty. She isn't going anywhere. He told me I shouldn't even be paying attention to any part of the defense. One thing I am sure of, I will NEVER be on a jury. Can you imagine seeing the autopsy photos and then having a fellow juror vote not guilty or cause a hung jury during the penalty phase like that foreman did? No way! Civil service is unsafe, unhealthy and not worth it.

 

[YESorNO]

It gets my blood pressure very high and I get angry. like my husband told me, Jodi was found guilty. She isn't going anywhere. He told me I shouldn't even be paying attention to any part of the defense. One thing I am sure of, I will NEVER be on a jury. Can you imagine seeing the autopsy photos and then having a fellow juror vote not guilty or cause a hung jury during the penalty phase like that foreman did? No way! Civil service is unsafe, unhealthy and not worth it.

Every night last year, while I tried to fall asleep, I would see missy:jail: murdering Travis in my mind. It went on every night, while I tossed and turned. It was a terrible thing and I didn't rid that horrible scenario until after the Summer ended.

 

[TxJan1971]

FWIW, while I was reviewing Jodi's interrogation with Det. Flores, I noted how she described her relationship with Travis. Note not only what she says but what she doesn't say:

1) In July of 2008, Jodi does not describe her relationship with Travis as abusive either physically or sexually. She described it EXACTLY the way it was, in her own words, "spiritually" unhealthy! Imagine that! She never once said that he was physically or sexually abusive--because he wasn’t!

Jodi’s conscience knew the reality of their relationship back in 2008 when she talked to Det. Flores. She knew her relationship with Travis was only that of a wild, sexual-fueled, fantasies-fulfilled one. She chose to get herself baptized into HIS religion to try and make herself appear more "marriage material" for him, but she wasn't willing to abide by the "law of chastity." Her obsession with him sexually was just too strong. She wasn't willing to stop with the wild sexual hold she had over him because she knew without that she had nothing to offer him or to keep his interest. She knew this. The sexual nature of their relationship was too important because without that, she wouldn't have all the additional "perks" of being with Travis (e.g. #1 all the money he loaned her, his car he loaned/gave her, all the trips he took her on, the "job" cleaning his house he provided to her because he knew she needed money, the people she got to meet through Travis, etc.)

2) Equally notable, is what she told Det. Flores about her family back in July of 2008. I find it amusing that when being grilled by a detective back in 2008 she didn’t feel the need to request any “secret” interrogation back then out of fear she would be “judged” or “afraid to talk." Why? Because she had no reason for secrecy because she had nothing but GOOD things to say about Travis AND her family!

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15:36
JA: No. I didn’t think it was healthy either spiritually at least and probably emotionally, but mostly spiritually and I think that kind of …once you have something that’s not healthy spiritually it filters through all aspects of your life. Umm…it’s … it’s one of the main… it’s either … there’s three main reasons I moved back to Yreka, and one was I was in financial dire straights. Umm…I was not getting ahead. I was not… I just… things were not working. Everything in Arizona was like…except for the wonderful friends that I made in my ward, umm …and the opportunity… it’s like the Mormon land of opportunity there which is awesome but…except for all that like… every sign was pointing …just …just go, you know. You know, I wasn’t able to hold a job, and that had never happened before. Umm…it…you know… too much of my… my nightlife was … was without him... you know he would text me and hey I’m getting sleepy… dot dot dot. That was his code to like come on over kind of thing -- “coast is clear” you know… So umm…you know and that was just…I lived 5 minutes away to maybe ten…depending… and it was just too convenient and too easy and it was fun and we had fun when we were together and so it wasn’t healthy and I totally agree with that. Umm so that was one of the – Well, financially I wasn’t doing well.

I missed my family. I moved away shortly after high school and I come back to visit but I realized over the yearsI missed out on a lot of things – (voice starts to shake) my little brother and sister. I missed out on their karate or their baseball or cheerleading or just whatever and umm my dad is not doing well. He doesn’t think he has very long to live, but he always says that. It’s been that way for a decade but he’s still here, thank goodness. Umm my grandparents aren’t getting any younger, and I just have an awesome family, and I wanted to be able to just be here for a little bit and regroup… umm…financially.

I owe my parents a lot of money, and I owe my grandparents a lot of money, and I owe friends money and I owe… I owe... I umm…the guy that I bought a house with – I owe him a lot of money. He doesn’t ask me for it but I intend to pay him back because he really footed the bill on the mortgage for a few months, umm… and the third reason, and I like to put this third because I like to think that second of those reasons I would have been strong enough somehow but the third reason was to put a distance… a physical distance between Travis and I because… I know that he really liked me and he said he did – ummm… he just…

I kinda’ felt guilty, and I know they weren’t dating, but I just felt guilty, somehow, and I didn’t know Ryan at the time. I met him in March at… in Oklahoma City, and it was just brief, and I remember seeing him and saying, Oh, I really want to go say Hi to him, but he was surrounded by people, and he was kind of unapproachable. Umm…and he says he remembers meeting me, too, and it wasn’t until Zion, my friend, umm…texted me…and I think I told you that …

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Link is available under Transcripts Thread - Interrogation

 

[LinasK]

IMO CMJA borrowed MDLR blush which is so wrong on her. That and the side view of an open shirt is just ridiculous. Is that what she was going for? If so, she succeeded.

Well, she is a predator, so modeling a "cougar" would fit!

 

[YESorNO]

FWIW, while I was reviewing Jodi's interrogation with Det. Flores, I noted how she described her relationship with Travis. Note not only what she says but what she doesn't say:

1) In July of 2008, Jodi does not describe her relationship with Travis as abusive either physically or sexually. She described it EXACTLY the way it was, in her own words, "spiritually" unhealthy! Imagine that! She never once said that he was physically or sexually abusive--because he wasn’t!

Jodi’s conscience knew the reality of their relationship back in 2008 when she talked to Det. Flores. She knew her relationship with Travis was only that of a wild, sexual-fueled, fantasies-fulfilled one. She chose to get herself baptized into HIS religion to try and make herself appear more "marriage material" for him, but she wasn't willing to abide by the "law of chastity." Her obsession with him sexually was just too strong. She wasn't willing to stop with the wild sexual hold she had over him because she knew without that she had nothing to offer him or to keep his interest. She knew this. The sexual nature of their relationship was too important because without that, she wouldn't have all the additional "perks" of being with Travis (e.g. #1 all the money he loaned her, his car he loaned/gave her, all the trips he took her on, the "job" cleaning his house he provided to her because he knew she needed money, the people she got to meet through Travis, etc.)

2) Equally notable, is what she told Det. Flores about her family back in July of 2008. I find it amusing that when being grilled by a detective back in 2008 she didn’t feel the need to request any “secret” interrogation back then out of fear she would be “judged” or “afraid to talk." Why? Because she had no reason for secrecy because she had nothing but GOOD things to say about Travis AND her family!

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15:36
JA: No. I didn’t think it was healthy either spiritually at least and probably emotionally, but mostly spiritually and I think that kind of …once you have something that’s not healthy spiritually it filters through all aspects of your life. Umm…it’s … it’s one of the main… it’s either … there’s three main reasons I moved back to Yreka, and one was I was in financial dire straights. Umm…I was not getting ahead. I was not… I just… things were not working. Everything in Arizona was like…except for the wonderful friends that I made in my ward, umm …and the opportunity… it’s like the Mormon land of opportunity there which is awesome but…except for all that like… every sign was pointing …just …just go, you know. You know, I wasn’t able to hold a job, and that had never happened before. Umm…it…you know… too much of my… my nightlife was … was without him... you know he would text me and hey I’m getting sleepy… dot dot dot. That was his code to like come on over kind of thing -- “coast is clear” you know… So umm…you know and that was just…I lived 5 minutes away to maybe ten…depending… and it was just too convenient and too easy and it was fun and we had fun when we were together and so it wasn’t healthy and I totally agree with that. Umm so that was one of the – Well, financially I wasn’t doing well.

I missed my family. I moved away shortly after high school and I come back to visit but I realized over the yearsI missed out on a lot of things – (voice starts to shake) my little brother and sister. I missed out on their karate or their baseball or cheerleading or just whatever and umm my dad is not doing well. He doesn’t think he has very long to live, but he always says that. It’s been that way for a decade but he’s still here, thank goodness. Umm my grandparents aren’t getting any younger, and I just have an awesome family, and I wanted to be able to just be here for a little bit and regroup… umm…financially.

I owe my parents a lot of money, and I owe my grandparents a lot of money, and I owe friends money and I owe… I owe... I umm…the guy that I bought a house with – I owe him a lot of money. He doesn’t ask me for it but I intend to pay him back because he really footed the bill on the mortgage for a few months, umm… and the third reason, and I like to put this third because I like to think that second of those reasons I would have been strong enough somehow but the third reason was to put a distance… a physical distance between Travis and I because… I know that he really liked me and he said he did – ummm… he just…

I kinda’ felt guilty, and I know they weren’t dating, but I just felt guilty, somehow, and I didn’t know Ryan at the time. I met him in March at… in Oklahoma City, and it was just brief, and I remember seeing him and saying, Oh, I really want to go say Hi to him, but he was surrounded by people, and he was kind of unapproachable. Umm…and he says he remembers meeting me, too, and it wasn’t until Zion, my friend, umm…texted me…and I think I told you that …

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Link is available under Transcripts Thread - Interrogation

But you can't believe anything she says, IMO, so what is the truth? We'll never really know, but we do know that she murdered Travis brutally and it was premeditated.

I wish her parents would take the stand, but even then, they would lie , too, IMO.

Link: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/...vhpecc3Y-2Ji-Mt6SNkZSyZpP_GQS4yQyXVjqZ2EIKLrw

 

[LinasK]

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Lord I found my problem! I am PTSD!!! I was pinned down by a guy at about 14, no knife but pinned tight..I kicked end of story..Did he cause me to be nervous? No. Mother caused that. I was plain mad at him!! I'm part Irish...:stormingmad:

Well then, according to Jodi, you have license to go slit somebody's throat!