SIDEBAR #42 - Arias/Alexander forum

[RickshawFan]

On "The New Face of Borderline Personality Disorder":

http://shrink4men.com/2012/06/11/th...nal-act-of-revenge-for-perceived-abandonment/

This article was cited towards the end of the "Break" thread. It is a fascinating and detailed look at how BPD plays out in a relationship day-to-day. The episodes recounted must be very close to what TA was experiencing via JA.

Disclaimer: I do not mean at all to imply that the details describe all BPD-ers. They describe one person's actions in particular, and they seem in minutiae to be mirrored in our evidence in JA's case.

Anyway, I thought we might want to discuss this article some more, since it seems very relevant.

 

[Rhozwen]

Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 56s56 seconds ago
Brown tells jurors he got involved in #jodiarias case when allegations of *advertiser censored* on TA's computer were raised by def. expert #3tvarias


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ now Phoenix, AZ
Brown is reading the *advertiser censored* sites that was found on the laptop...he has no problem saying them like Numeister did #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial · 7s 7 seconds ago
I want 2 make a shirt of cartoon Nurmi playing a saxophone that says, "Law Offices of L. Kirk Nurmi: Sax Offenders Call 1-800..." #jodiarias

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 21s22 seconds ago
Det. Brown is here to rebut testimony of defense computer experts who said there was *advertiser censored* on Travis Alexander's computer #jodiarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 5s6 seconds ago
Brown reads the salacious names of the *advertiser censored* websites on the computer, mostly about male and female sex organs, and one called "Child Villa."

 

[Rhozwen]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 53s54 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
Brown conducted an experiment. He cleaned out the hard drive...he wiped it out ..he zero'd it all out #jodiarias #3tvarias

Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 27s28 seconds ago
R. Brown going through list of *advertiser censored* sites-way too graphic to repeat-#3tvarias #jodiarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 46s46 seconds ago
Some of the steamy sites Brown found on #TravisAlexander's computer. 'Steamy c*ck, insert this c*ck, only c**t.. Just repeating people.

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 1m1 minute ago
We have set over/under on sidebars today at 20. #jodiarias

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 20s21 seconds ago
Det. Brown reads names of computer *advertiser censored* sites in as bland a way as humanly possible. #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ now5 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
Brown put on the SpyBot ver 1.4 on the hard drive..it's the same version TA had, he also added the same OSystem TA had #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial
‏@WildAboutTrial
RB listing sax sites on TA history. Too saxy to repeat. #jodiarias

 

[Rhozwen]

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 42s43 seconds ago
Brown says he found none of the websites on the hard drive. Then, when he installed Spybot, the sites appeared. #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 42s43 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
Brown found every single one of the *advertiser censored* sites after installing SpyBot search and destroy...#jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 14s15 seconds ago
Brown says the program lists the sites it is looking out for. #jodiarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 34s34 seconds ago
Brown found those *advertiser censored* sites after installing spybot. #JodiArias

 

[Rhozwen]

So it sounds to me that the spybot program lists various sites it looks for within it's coding somehow, and that is the info that the DT is alleging TA was looking at?

Again, how does this relate at all to CMJA murdering Travis and her sentencing for that crime???? So unfortunate that the DT has sent this court on all different kinds of goose chases!

 

[Rhozwen]

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 2m2 minutes ago
Brown says Spybot places the sites on the computer to immunize it from those sites. Martinez asks if the sites were accessed by keystrokes.

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 2m2 minutes ago
Brown says his conclusion that this program put viruses on #TravisAlexander's computer. NOT user. #JodiArias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 2m2 minutes ago
Willmott objects. Sidebar.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 2m2 minutes ago Phoenix, AZ
Brown also found 1000's more malicious sites not just the 13 *advertiser censored* sites def has alleged TA looked at. It had more *advertiser censored* on it form SpyBot

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial · 1m 1 minute ago
RB found app *advertiser censored* sites after installing SpyBot. #jodiarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 1m1 minute ago
Juan Martinez called Detective Brown and is questioning him for those of you confused. It's easy to do in this case. #JodiArias

 

[Rhozwen]

Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 57s58 seconds ago
Brown tells jurors thousands of *advertiser censored* sites were put on TA's computer by "Spyboot Search & Destroy" #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 51s51 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
May 27th 2008 11:35pm- Ta's laptop put up a pop up that said the computer was being attacked #jodiarias #3tvarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 43s44 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
11:50pm- Internet Explorer stopped working, it hung up #jodiarias #3tvarias

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 12s12 seconds ago
Det. Brown says his examination showed there was an internet attack on Travis Alexander's computer. #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 16s17 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
11:52pm the pop up comes up again saying "attack"
11:53pm- Spybot was run on the laptop #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer now11 seconds ago
At one point, Brown says, Internet Explorer stops working. Then, Spybot was installed by the user, he says. #jodiarias

 

[Rhozwen]

Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv 34s34 seconds ago
"Spybot Search and Destroy" #jodiarias #3tvarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 26s27 seconds ago
No still photographer here yet. #JodiArias' mom wearing a pretty green & black blouse. MDLR in a grey power suit. Very dark colors today.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ now6 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
TA's computer was set at California time but in June it matched Az time #jodiarias #3tvarias

 

[zoey]

So it sounds to me that the spybot program lists various sites it looks for within it's coding somehow, and that is the info that the DT is alleging TA was looking at?

Again, how does this relate at all to CMJA murdering Travis and her sentencing for that crime???? So unfortunate that the DT has sent this court on all different kinds of goose chases!

ITA~~ however, think it points to defense POV that TA was " evil" andy ja did us a "favor" by killing him.

 

[Rhozwen]

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer now9 seconds ago
One program found 17 viruses or malware, Brown said, another found ten. He says it is not routine to check computers for viruses in cases.

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 32s32 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
Lot's of virus's on TA's laptop
Det Brown says he wouldn't normally do a virus ck on a hard drive unless it was part of the case #jodiarias

 

[Rhozwen]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 50s50 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
Detective Brown is talking about Encase- It's a forensic copy of the hard drive and he can wipe a HD with it #jodiarias #3tvarias

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial · 5s 5 seconds ago
Juan & State witness exchange expert testimony re: hard drive & comp files comfortably. Easier to follow than previous. #jodiarias

Steve Krafft ‏@SKrafftFox10 24s24 seconds ago
Det. Brown says he found lots of computer viruses on Travis Alexander's computer. #jodiarias

 

[Dmacky]

Special shout out and thank you to Rhozwen for all the tweets :loveyou:

 

[Rhozwen]

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 28s28 seconds ago
On Monday, #jodiarias trial watchers made racist taunts as mitigation expert Maria De La Rosa left the courthouse.

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer now7 seconds ago
Then the trial watchers, some of whom are bloggers, took photos of me and Beth Karas talking to De La Rosa and posted them online. #stalker

 

[Rhozwen]

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial · 1m 1 minute ago
State witness is clean cut and likable. Confident without being arrogant. #jodiarias

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial · 4s 4 seconds ago
RB says "Net Clean" is one of the programs he used to pull content off TA's comp. #jodiarias

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial · 25s 26 seconds ago
RB says NO child *advertiser censored* found. #jodiarias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 42s43 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
Det Brown took 3 days to look for child *advertiser censored* on the hard drive...he had a program that went thru photo's and unallocated space #jodiarias

Mike Watkiss ‏@mikewatkiss3tv now5 seconds ago
Brown says he found NO child *advertiser censored* on TA's computer #jodiarias #3tvarias

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 12s13 seconds ago
Apparently, people don't realize that reporters are supposed to talk to all sides of the story, and it is not a lapse to talk to defense.


Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ now6 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
Brown didn't find any images of child *advertiser censored* on the hard drive #jodiarias #3tvarias

 

[Rhozwen]

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial · 39s 40 seconds ago
Re: media saved to comp.. RB found 2 photos of nude females, one female almost nude, then male & female. 4 total. Thumbnails img #jodiarias




Lunchtime here and my husband comes home for lunch, so I don't know how distracted I'll be, but will try to still post tweets. I may be delayed a bit though.

 

[Dmacky]

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer 28s28 seconds ago
On Monday, #jodiarias trial watchers made racist taunts as mitigation expert Maria De La Rosa left the courthouse.

Michael Kiefer ‏@michaelbkiefer now7 seconds ago
Then the trial watchers, some of whom are bloggers, took photos of me and Beth Karas talking to De La Rosa and posted them online. #stalker

Of course it was none other than JA's supporter and biggest fan... Michael Kiefer that ran inside like a 5 year old to "tattle" :lol:

 

[Rhozwen]

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial · 39s 40 seconds ago
Re: media saved to comp.. RB found 2 photos of nude females, one female almost nude, then male & female. 4 total. Thumbnails img #jodiarias

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 1m1 minute ago
Detective Brown says no child *advertiser censored* found on #TravisAlexander's computer. #JodiArias

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ 23s23 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
He did find adult images/thumbnails...4 of them. 1 of a man and woman, 1 woman naked- 1 with female back turned- 1 w/ person semi dresed

Tammy Rose ‏@News20Chopper 10s10 seconds ago
A lot of note taking today by everyone. Jurors, defense, peeps in the gallery. #JodiArias

 

[zoey]

Great mumps (along with measles) have veen diagnosed in my State. sorry if this offends anyone but why don't people vaccinate? Thinking I may need a booster due to my age

 

[Rhozwen]

Of course it was none other than JA's supporter and biggest fan... Michael Kiefer that ran inside like a 5 year old to "tattle" :lol:

Yes, and if he felt confident and secure with his choices, he wouldn't feel the need to scold the public and/or defend his actions. imho

 

[Rhozwen]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ now6 seconds ago Phoenix, AZ
On Firefox the user went to and saw a website named "Alexia" it was accessed on June 1st, 2008. TA clicked on it, not typed in #jodiarias


Not many tweets are coming in.