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Sheriff Joe's comments always struck me as odd. Somehow I gotta believe if you're in jail, you abide by their rules. I mean, they do make the rules, and not the inmates, yes?

So, if any inmate wants a media interview it's automatically given? I'm thinking not.

Lol he's strict with making them eat boloney! Watch on weather and discern channel! But strict in other areas as he did with Jodie! Doesn't make sense does it.
 
Ted Bundy had never been arrested before either. fwiw

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He was arrested, escaped, hurt and killed some more people, then got arrested again. But before that, nope. Seemed like such a bright, polite, handsome young man.
 
Bailiff to the Judge "Judge I have 260 people out in the hallway from a website called "web checkers or sleuth checks or crime beaters" and they want seats for the trial.

They tell me first thing in the morning there are 10 to 12 of the webbers coming in, then after lunch 60 to 80 more meander in and then late afternoon another 300 or so join them. And some of them drink... They want seats and they expect in this case to sit on the prosecution side because they have already seen this defendant in action"......

and the Judge says "oh no it is those damn Websleuther's I know who they are - open up the holding cell and put the whole crew in until that fellow from AZ, Juan Martinez who got them all riled up comes and bails the whole crew out".

Sign me up! :floorlaugh:

OMG! That's exactly what would happen!!! Who volunteers. To smuggle a flask or 3 in :eek: and we need someone to smuggle 8 track player....ouch!
 
The Jodster doesn't seem to be able to think too far ahead. But does she even know about the juror interviews, do you think? Does her Best Friend, Donavan, keep her informed?

Isn't Donovan restricted from socializing with or tweeting with her? Probation issue?
 
I don't think Donovan can talk with her anymore as she is now a convicted felon, and Donovan's probation may not allow contact with convicted felons.

Her mom, or whomever she gets a phone call with, or letters from, probably tell her.

Thank you I commented before I read your post. Asked and answered lol
 
Lol I thought Lil budy was a he not a she by his or her avatar. No pun intended. I guess that's what you get when you assume.

Shocker, eh? :)

I am hoping to connect some other faces with words here....just even temporary.
:websleuther::worms:
 
Isn't Donovan restricted from socializing with or tweeting with her? Probation issue?

It would seem so, based on the replies I've gotten so far. I haven't looked at twitter recently.

:guitar: "They call me Mellow Yellow..." :newyear:
 
Inmates are allowed only so many interviews/time allotments, and frankly, they're idiots for pursuing media attention because.........their statements can be used against them in court. Rarely, have I seen ANYONE use those 1st amendment rights.
I don't know whether it's broken down by "time" or how many media outlets they can speak to. She reached her limit set by jail rules.
As far as visitation, I don't see where there was any rules broken/changed to accommodate for "family members" who came to visit.
She got her "15 minutes" in one big shot, and that's it. If the sheriff hadn't consolidated all the interviews in one night, with staff inconvenience and lights out be damned, we would have suffered through days of interviews. Set it all up once and forget about it. If she gets anything more, it'll have to be through some wrangling with her attorneys and the Sheriff.
As far as Sheriff Joe, he's got other matters to deal with. Some Judge ruling, the ACLU, and "profiling"........not EVEN going to go there, have friends in LE down on the Border, the media will distort the truth however their agenda needs to be, to appease the masses, JMO.

Or report the reality regardless of who wants to believe it.

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Lol he's strict with making them eat boloney! Watch on weather and discern channel! But strict in other areas as he did with Jodie! Doesn't make sense does it.

Because things aren't what they seem when its all about you and attention...not really about making.changes

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Jodi lost control of Travis. If you look at the past relationships that we know about Jodi kept control in them. With Bobby she called and called until he called her back. With Matt she kept in touch with him and used him to her advantage long after they broke up (actually she dumped him as with all of her other guys except for Travis). Matt was even willing to lie under oath for Jodi no matter what it did to his new family and job. Daryl is another that has continued to cover for Jodi and do what she wants. Now, is there some blackmail that Jodi has on those guys to keep them in "check"? Knowing her the answer is obviously yes.

Jodi used her guys and moved on when there was nothing left to offer her. But she kept them on a leash just in case latter on down the road they could be useful again.

Travis was different. Jodi wasn't done with him, he still had so much that she had not taken away. He still had his nice home, his good job, his close friends. There was so much that Jodi could still take away. But Travis was smarter than the other guys, thanks in part to his very good friends. Travis saw the writing on the wall and knew what this leach could do if he let her. Travis dumped her. Travis took back that control. Travis knew the real Jodi and was going to tell her new "fishing pond" of Mormon men all about her. Jodi couldn't let any of that happen. Like most psychos Jodi decided that what she wanted was the only thing that mattered and Jodi wanted Travis dead.

MOO

That sounds like it could be right. Thanks, toris!
 
I still don't understand why Daryl requested that his face not be shown when he was testifying during the trial and yet does an interview after Jodi has been found guilty of premeditated 1st degree murder and that it was especially cruel and when the jury is out deciding on the penalty phase. Did whatever he was hiding from go away in between those times or was the limelight so appealing that he just couldn't help himself?
 
Jodi lost control of Travis. If you look at the past relationships that we know about Jodi kept control in them. With Bobby she called and called until he called her back. With Matt she kept in touch with him and used him to her advantage long after they broke up (actually she dumped him as with all of her other guys except for Travis). Matt was even willing to lie under oath for Jodi no matter what it did to his new family and job. Daryl is another that has continued to cover for Jodi and do what she wants. Now, is there some blackmail that Jodi has on those guys to keep them in "check"? Knowing her the answer is obviously yes.

Jodi used her guys and moved on when there was nothing left to offer her. But she kept them on a leash just in case latter on down the road they could be useful again.

Travis was different. Jodi wasn't done with him, he still had so much that she had not taken away. He still had his nice home, his good job, his close friends. There was so much that Jodi could still take away. But Travis was smarter than the other guys, thanks in part to his very good friends. Travis saw the writing on the wall and knew what this leach could do if he let her. Travis dumped her. Travis took back that control. Travis knew the real Jodi and was going to tell her new "fishing pond" of Mormon men all about her. Jodi couldn't let any of that happen. Like most psychos Jodi decided that what she wanted was the only thing that mattered and Jodi wanted Travis dead.

MOO

BBM

Reading what you wrote has me thinking: in all these relationships BEFORE Travis, didn't they let her "break up" with them first? In other words, she perceived that SHE was the one breaking up with them. Ooohh...this is so interesting what you said. (I'm thinking as I write, so bear with me!).

Bobby: break-up fight, she leaves groceries at his doorstep, he calls her back. They date for a little while longer (I think?), but it just wasn't the "same." She writes him long letter, they sit and discuss it and decide to part ways. SO SHE THINKS SHE BROKE UP WITH HIM.

Matt: Bianca affair. Then she meets him at his Grandpa's house and they sit and have "long discussion" in his grandpa's truck. Have a real heart-t0-heart. Decide to be just friends. SHE THINKS SHE BROKE UP WITH HIM.

Darryl: her affair with Travis. Self-explanatory...in this case, she actually did break up with him. Ball totally in her court.

Travis: I think the other guys knew how to approach her to avoid her psycho ways, and Travis unfortunately didn't. The other guys knew they couldn't let her KNOW that they wanted to break up with her. But their actions conveyed it to her. So they went along with her break-up discussions and heart-to-hearts and long break-up e-mails, b/c they knew that was the only way to get rid of her. TO MAKE HER THINK LIKE SHE WAS IN CONTROL. They had her pegged from early on, and unfortunately Travis didn't, and even when he did, he didn't know how to handle someone like her.

I don't knwo what the other guys did exactly to keep her happy, but the point is they let her think she was always in control of them. Travis, I believe, let her know that they were not excusive and that he had every right to date and see other women if she wanted to. HE DIDN"T LET HER CONTROL THE BREAK-UP. He did the breaking-up...and that was his big mistake.

Along with the break-up...there had to be another man ready for CMJA to pounce on, to get over her obesessive-ness of the old guy and replace it with the new guy. Wasn't it Matt immediately after Bobby? And Darrly immediately after Matt? Travis immediately after Darrly? So there are two components: Jodi controlling the break-up, and also a distraction to displace her obsessiveness so she wouldn't obsess over the ex-boyfriend. After Travis, there was Ryan already at the waiting. So one component was there...I believe what set her off was knowing that SHE didn't break-up with him, but he did with her. And she couldn't get over that, even though there was a guy-in-the-waiting.

Basically, it's exactly as simple as Juan said - she was just the jealous, obsessive girlfriend.
 
:seeya:If Alcatraz is a go I would be thrilled! AND all of our Chicago area sleuthers can take the California zephyr to San Francisco! Heehee midnight readings of murder on the orient express in the observation car anyone? :seeya:

Whats the CA zephyr?
Sounds exciting!
 
Hey WS! How is everyone?

I just got prescribed Leuprorelin for a medical procedure, and this is what they treat it for:
:what:
"Leuprolide has been tested as a treatment for reducing sexual urges in pedophiles and other cases of paraphilia.High doses are sometimes used to chemically castrate sex offenders."

Crazy!!
 
I still don't understand why Daryl requested that his face not be shown when he was testifying during the trial and yet does an interview after Jodi has been found guilty of premeditated 1st degree murder and that it was especially cruel and when the jury is out deciding on the penalty phase. Did whatever he was hiding from go away in between those times or was the limelight so appealing that he just couldn't help himself?

After DB left the stand the first time he may have realized that people knew it was him and not appearing made him appear as if he were hiding. And it did. So much speculation guess he just decided to go public.

He gives me an uncomfortable vibe either way.
 
Mitigation specialist, Maria De La Rosa, for Jodi Arias

Maria DeLaRosa, Jodi Aria's mitigation specialist - "the court has ordered De La Rosa to be paid for 100 hours for work done during the guilt phase of the trial alone"
source: http://mycrimetime.blogspot.com/2013/05/who-is-maria-de-la-rosa-mitigation.html

COURT doc:
source: http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/052013/m5750389.pdf

Wow
Where can I get a job like that?
This sounds like past tense right? It doesnt say work to be done. It says work done.
Are you telling me the mitigation specialist spent 100 hours on that mitigation??????
 
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