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[dog.gone.cute]

I am not going to follow the Conrad Murray trial closely.I was just wondering, though, how is it that the whole world (unfortunately) got to see Michael Jackson's deceased body yesterday but we weren't even able to see the video of KC throwing a fit when Caylee's body was found? So much secrecy and drama with KC's trial. KC got special treatment. So did the jury.

BBM: I totally agree ...

As to the Conrad Murray trial, I was "debating" on whether or not to follow the trial -- not because of Michael Jackson -- but because I wanted to compare the "courtroom tactics" of 2 HIGH PROFILE cases ... Also, I have not followed the case and know very little about it.

IMO ... way too many "shenanigans" were allowed in that courtroom in Orlando ... and although I still have a lot of admiration for Judge Perry, IMO he let way too much slide by.

One thing I did notice in the courtroom in CM's trial is that when I saw the news last night, the Prosecutor and Defense Tables were BOTH FACING the Judge ... none of this shenanigans of facing the Jury !

I remember someone hear pointing out that the DT should have NEVER been allowed to have their table directly FACE the Jury in FCA's trial -- good point !

I am so glad we have this Sidebar ... I still need a place to come and "vent" :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

MOO ...

 

[Shyla]

Question....do any of you feel FCA is happy that she is slowly being moved to the back burner?

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Question....do any of you feel FCA is happy that she is slowly being moved to the back burner?

BBM: I am "guessing" that FCA is NOT a "happy camper" about being moved to the "back burner" :floorlaugh:

:waitasec: I would NOT be surprised if she will do "something" to get her back in the news ...

Hopefully ... it will be something that will get her thrown back in the :behindbar

MOO ...

 

[MsMacGyver]

BBM: I totally agree ...

As to the Conrad Murray trial, I was "debating" on whether or not to follow the trial -- not because of Michael Jackson -- but because I wanted to compare the "courtroom tactics" of 2 HIGH PROFILE cases ... Also, I have not followed the case and know very little about it.

IMO ... way too many "shenanigans" were allowed in that courtroom in Orlando ... and although I still have a lot of admiration for Judge Perry, IMO he let way too much slide by.

One thing I did notice in the courtroom in CM's trial is that when I saw the news last night, the Prosecutor and Defense Tables were BOTH FACING the Judge ... none of this shenanigans of facing the Jury !

I remember someone hear pointing out that the DT should have NEVER been allowed to have their table directly FACE the Jury in FCA's trial -- good point !

I am so glad we have this Sidebar ... I still need a place to come and "vent" :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

MOO ...

Lots of differences....Judge P did a great job but so many things were allowed to slide..where do we start?

MJ's trial being described as the trial of the century...Bye..Bye FCA....:great:

 

[Just K]

So few members...perhaps the money making ship has sailed for the number one suspect in Caylee's death. Seems her number one attorney sailed off to "greener" pastures, too.

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[logicalgirl]

IIRC, that ethics panel is not until mid-Oct...I think he was saying he wasn't invited to be on it.

I'm not surprised that he wasn't asked to be on it - the "ethics" that seem to be going to be discussed clearly revolve around what went on in the FCA case courtroom if looking at the panel is supposed to give us any clue...:innocent:

 

[logicalgirl]

Not exactly how I pictured the "twins"...

Your comment is too funny!!!! Love that quick wit!

(I wonder which one is John and which one is Lucy....)
:waitasec:

 

[MsMacGyver]

So few members...perhaps the money making ship has sailed for the number one suspect in Caylee's death. Seems her number one attorney sailed off to "greener" pastures, too.

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TA...Might not be WS normal topic but I am surprised we are not following since it is being portrayed as the trial of the century. It might be a good way for some to move on from the A's, although I do believe you can learn more about a case sometimes after it's over and people start talking. I'm not convinced we are not just in "the lull before a storm". My gut keeps telling me there's more to come out!

 

[MsMacGyver]

I'm not surprised that he wasn't asked to be on it - the "ethics" that seem to be going to be discussed clearly revolve around what went on in the FCA case courtroom if looking at the panel is supposed to give us any clue...:innocent:

TA...I'm still surprised one of the networks didn't run a show on what happened..what went wrong...Maybe the back lash was too much for them to risk..I'm a bit of a conspiracy nut anyway..in case no one noticed.....:floorlaugh:

 

[wonders]

I'm feeling down today for Caylee, how I wish we had justice for her. I realize she's in a place where she dosen't care and that she's in the best hands ever now. I suppose justice is for those of us left behind. I want to see the photos (not pixals) of the way Caylee's little head was found with the duct tape holding her mandiable in place. I want to know what the jury missed in those photos. (Yeah, Caylee was discarded like the A's dead animals, but FCA had a good education in that area of her life and wish that the jury had understood that.) I want to know how they missed the point of 31 days and FCA not missing a beat in her stride to have the most fun of her life. I want to know why Jennifer Ford was considering the penality phase in the guilt phase of the trial. I want to know why we can't go back in time and fix it all.

 

[natsound]

If you're watching DWTS, this article is hilarious!

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31749_162-20112607-10391698.html?tag=strip

 

[Shyla]

BBM: I am "guessing" that FCA is NOT a "happy camper" about being moved to the "back burner" :floorlaugh:

:waitasec: I would NOT be surprised if she will do "something" to get her back in the news ...

Hopefully ... it will be something that will get her thrown back in the :behindbar

MOO ...

I think you are right on with your answer. I remember in her jailhouse letters how she said she had to get ready for her fans. This girl has zero remorse and to know she walked away free still irks me to no end.

 

[MsMacGyver]

I'm feeling down today for Caylee, how I wish we had justice for her. I realize she's in a place where she dosen't care and that she's in the best hands ever now. I suppose justice is for those of us left behind. I want to see the photos (not pixals) of the way Caylee's little head was found with the duct tape holding her mandiable in place. I want to know what the jury missed in those photos. (Yeah, Caylee was discarded like the A's dead animals, but FCA had a good education in that area of her life and wish that the jury had understood that.) I want to know how they missed the point of 31 days and FCA not missing a beat in her stride to have the most fun of her life. I want to know why Jennifer Ford was considering the penality phase in the guilt phase of the trial. I want to know why we can't go back in time and fix it all.

You and me and everyone else!...I would say it's hard for me to except things and move on but usually I can. Something stinks so badly about the whole trial, the verdict..that I can't let it go. There's something..I feel..in my gut that's not been discovered yet. My gut has always been smarter than me..if that makes any sense. I know why I think you can't always take some things or people at face value...I keep telling myself that some people involved in the case have moved on so that should tell me that it was just the "perfect storm" theory or murphys law, but my gut won't let go of this and everytime I haven't listened, something shows up!...It drives me crazy....:banghead:

 

[Aedrys]

You and me and everyone else!...I would say it's hard for me to except things and move on but usually I can. Something stinks so badly about the whole trial, the verdict..that I can't let it go. There's something..I feel..in my gut that's not been discovered yet. My gut has always been smarter than me..if that makes any sense. I know why I think you can't always take some things or people at face value...I keep telling myself that some people involved in the case have moved on so that should tell me that it was just the "perfect storm" theory or murphys law, but my gut won't let go of this and everytime I haven't listened, something shows up!...It drives me crazy....:banghead:

Me too. I'm right there with you. I'm slowly moving on, but this case still bothers me, always will.

I still worry about what Casey to do other people, but then I'm thankful that she doesn't seem to be like Diane Downs, though. I have to remind myself that worse people do exist. I kept seeing commercials last week for a special about her daughter that was given up after she was born, and they kept playing this clip where Diane Downs says "Children are so easy to conceive." It was just the creepiest thing ever. Thankfully, she's been denied parole and is still in jail.

Casey doesn't seem to be rushing to get pregnant again, thank goodness. Let her stay in hiding as long she wants, I say. The more she's away from the public doing her own thing, whatever that is, the better. She seems to like it so far because she hasn't done anything to show herself or spoken out about how hard it is (I don't count unnamed sources in a People article as true sources).

I do wish some kind of investigation of the jury could happen. I know it wouldn't change anything, but just knowing that something was wrong with them and that this verdict is wrong because of them would be make me feel a little better. I hate that no one seems to be investigating them at all. I just feel like something in there happened that wasn't good and that juries shouldn't do. I can't shake that feeling.

And I'm still sad for Caylee. Everytime I see a small girl around her age or younger, I get sad. I think about her a lot. I'll always mourn her loss.

 

[MsMacGyver]

Me too. I'm right there with you. I'm slowly moving on, but this case still bothers me, always will.

I still worry about what Casey to do other people, but then I'm thankful that she doesn't seem to be like Diane Downs, though. I have to remind myself that worse people do exist. I kept seeing commercials last week for a special about her daughter that was given up after she was born, and they kept playing this clip where Diane Downs says "Children are so easy to conceive." It was just the creepiest thing ever. Thankfully, she's been denied parole and is still in jail.

Casey doesn't seem to be rushing to get pregnant again, thank goodness. Let her stay in hiding as long she wants, I say. The more she's away from the public doing her own thing, whatever that is, the better. She seems to like it so far because she hasn't done anything to show herself or spoken out about how hard it is (I don't count unnamed sources in a People article as true sources).

I do wish some kind of investigation of the jury could happen. I know it wouldn't change anything, but just knowing that something was wrong with them and that this verdict is wrong because of them would be make me feel a little better. I hate that no one seems to be investigating them at all. I just feel like something in there happened that wasn't good and that juries shouldn't do. I can't shake that feeling.
And I'm still sad for Caylee. Everytime I see a small girl around her age or younger, I get sad. I think about her a lot. I'll always mourn her loss.

Sometimes when people work in any proffession, they become calloused to certain things. The media and the lawyers say..sometimes you win..sometimes you lose when it comes to cases and juries. I stiil say from what we know of this jury, something isn't right! Maybe it was because they were tired, didn't understand the instructions. Someone upthread said that the jury instructions were missing when they went to investigate, is this common? Why would they be missing from the documents?
Just as it was obvious to me that FCA was guilty, it's obvious that the jurors didn't do their job. This was a high profile case that everyone was watching, even common sense would tell you NOT to get in a hurry, even if all 12 were in agreement as soon as they walked into the room to deliberate. Take your time...go over some evidence that someone has questions about..make sure your not missing something. Alot of the jurors were crying after the verdict was read. Was this because they felt she was guilty and couldn't convict or they weren't sure they had made the right decision. How can it be that so many were shocked at the verdict, even the DT.

These are just a few questions I have about the jury..why didn't the jurors have questions about the case they needed answers to. Is it possible that the coach and the nursing student could have been so persuasive to convince the other 10 that they knew what they were doing? Maybe I'm wrong but there were only 2 deliberating jurors that came forward and spoke and from what they had to say I'm really surprised there was NOT an investigation.

 

[rose222]

Me too. I'm right there with you. I'm slowly moving on, but this case still bothers me, always will.

I still worry about what Casey to do other people, but then I'm thankful that she doesn't seem to be like Diane Downs, though. I have to remind myself that worse people do exist. I kept seeing commercials last week for a special about her daughter that was given up after she was born, and they kept playing this clip where Diane Downs says "Children are so easy to conceive." It was just the creepiest thing ever. Thankfully, she's been denied parole and is still in jail.

Casey doesn't seem to be rushing to get pregnant again, thank goodness. Let her stay in hiding as long she wants, I say. The more she's away from the public doing her own thing, whatever that is, the better. She seems to like it so far because she hasn't done anything to show herself or spoken out about how hard it is (I don't count unnamed sources in a People article as true sources).

I do wish some kind of investigation of the jury could happen. I know it wouldn't change anything, but just knowing that something was wrong with them and that this verdict is wrong because of them would be make me feel a little better. I hate that no one seems to be investigating them at all. I just feel like something in there happened that wasn't good and that juries shouldn't do. I can't shake that feeling.

And I'm still sad for Caylee. Everytime I see a small girl around her age or younger, I get sad. I think about her a lot. I'll always mourn her loss.

Oh yes. I remind myself from time to time that there are people who are worse than Casey. I hope she realizes the incredible Grace that has been shown to her and changes her heart and mind completely to live a productive life. I'm naive, I know.

The jurors though? I know they didn't follow the law and failed miserably in their duties as jurors and human beings. I can come to terms with KC being free but I find it very hard to accept how incompetent/selfish these jurors were.

Anyway, I will always remember sweet, little Caylee. I couldn't forget her even if I tried.

 

[MsMacGyver]

Aedrys..I worry that the only reason FCA isn't pregnant again is she has no takers yet!
I really hope your right or maybe she has gotten a good taste of freedom and doesn't want to make it up to her parents..for what she did to Caylee and give them a replacement anytime soon. I think this is the way she will see it when she does have another child. I watched the show you talked about when Farrah Fawcett played DD, I still hate the song they played, the one she was listening to when she killed two of the kids. It's scary because I see similar traits in FCA. I've been watching shows on Directv about mothers who kill and am always surprised at how many things stand out to me in relation to FCA. I just don't feel she should ever have more children..you can't fix what ain't broke...Even if she had a mental or physical reason why she did what she did, I can't see her actually admitting it or seeking help for it...JMO

 

[SondraK]

I, too, am having a hard time accepting the injustice that I feel was done.

The reason that I hesitate to post about it is simply that I feel KC is thoroughly enjoying the fact that everyone is upset. I believe her to be a vindictive person who WILL get pregnant at the first opportunity just to be able to twist the knife in her parents backs and in ours. I guess I want to deny her the satisfaction of knowing that I am upset.

Sounds crazy, doesn't it??? I really did want someone to answer for Caylee's death.
Blessings. I know, Lord, in your time, not ours......I'm just human and still a work in progress though. raying:

 

[Concerned Papa]

I saw this article this morning and these images show what Caylee didn't have in her short life.

There's nothing quite like a mother's love.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...maing-grid7|customfirefox|dl1|sec1_lnk2|99801

 

[dog.gone.cute]

snipped from : http://www.cfnews13.com/article/ent...mask:-Hot-Halloween-costume,-or-too-offensive

ORLANDO --

Casey Anthony could show up among the ghosts and goblins at your Halloween party this year.

She's on the list of 2011's hottest Halloween costumes. But she's not the only infamous celebrity on iParty's annual list.

Casey is joined by Charlie Sheen and Arnold Schwarzenegger on the list of predicted hot sellers this Halloween.


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omg ... y'all have got to see this "mask" ... [sorry, I don't know how to link pic]


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