MISTRIAL - Sidney Moorer on trial for the kidnapping of Heather Elvis - June 20 & 21,2016 - #1

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One of the officers - can't remember which- said that he went to TK and the "kitchen manager" told him that. Referring to DH I believe.

I wonder if it's true. I wonder if the manager just heard that or got it confused with the Walmart story ...or maybe it was just TM and HE so we won't hear about it at all. So many possibilities LOL


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Gosh! There was so much that didn't make sense to me before that is finally starting to fall into place. Like why people were arguing about whether or not the Walmart parking lot had video cameras or whether or not someone saw SM buying a pregnancy test.
 
The $5000 withdrawal. Was that substantiated? I remember something about a lot of cash in the house, and then later that that wasn't true. Can't remember it all...When was the withdrawal? (I guess I need to go and see if it's in the timeline). Could that have been a bribe to Heather to have an abortion and go away quietly? I apologize if this has been asked and answered a million times...the memory isn't what it used to be. :(
 
I haven't read this entire thread but do you suppose Tammy's "pregnancy" was a way of explaining why Sydney bought a pregnancy test?
 
So let's discount TM's faked pregnancy. Since we know that SM bought the test 12-18-13 and they were arrested in February TM would have been preggers when she was incarcerated, she wouldn't wait until March to claim that. Totally bs.

Gosh I hope so.
 
Well, why kill a 20 yr old woman? Why harass a 20 yr old woman with hundreds of messages? TM did lots of stupid things and I'm thankful she left a long trail of them. They wouldn't have known about the video from Walmart until after they were arrested and got attorneys. Then the cooking up of a reason to need a preggers test was created. I bet there's no evidence of TM ever disclosing to the jail upon being arrested and incarcerated that she was or might be pregnant. I bet the day she decided to disclose this is AFTER she learned about that Walmart video.

I was shocked about the "95 missed calls from CRAZY B*^CH" that was revealed yesterday. Even for TM, that is quite an obsessive amount. What was she thinking? That HE would finally pick up on the 92nd ring?
 
Gosh! There was so much that didn't make sense to me before that is finally starting to fall into place. Like why people were arguing about whether or not the Walmart parking lot had video cameras or whether or not someone saw SM buying a pregnancy test.

I remember reading on social media that TM gave Heather a black eye in the Walmart parking lot. I also remember hearing that somebody that worked at Walgreen's (note not Walmart) saw Sidney and Heather buying a pregnancy test together. It's funny how both those stories appear to have been partially true. Must have been a game of "telephone."
 
The $5000 withdrawal. Was that substantiated? I remember something about a lot of cash in the house, and then later that that wasn't true. Can't remember it all...When was the withdrawal? (I guess I need to go and see if it's in the timeline). Could that have been a bribe to Heather to have an abortion and go away quietly? I apologize if this has been asked and answered a million times...the memory isn't what it used to be. :(

I think that may have been info revealed in the preliminary hearing. Because that's when they showed the emails that SM wrote to a RE agent down in FL where he said he wanted whatever he could get for X amount of money, even just land, because they were moving immediately and weren't planning to come back to SC. Those emails he sent sounded so desperate and borderline frantic.
 
I remember reading on social media that TM gave Heather a black eye in the Walmart parking lot. I also remember hearing that somebody that worked at Walgreen's (note not Walmart) saw Sidney and Heather buying a pregnancy test together. It's funny how both those stories appear to have been partially true. Must have been a game of "telephone."

I knowwww... that's what I remember hearing too! Except I heard they were seen buying the test at the CVS on 544 near his house instead of Walgreens.
 
I haven't read this entire thread but do you suppose Tammy's "pregnancy" was a way of explaining why Sydney bought a pregnancy test?

Definitely. We all knew it was BS from the beginning, but I think we initially assumed it was TM's way of trying to make the marriage look like it was in a great place, so they could claim there was no reason for them to murder Heather. To make it seem like the pregnancy test was really for TM makes even more sense IMO.
 
Remember TM posting about seeing a boyfriend for the past few years? That post proves their marriage wasn't as solid as they want people to believe. I don't think she would have said that if she was pregnant.
Also, why would her sister state she needs to get sober at the end of January if she was pregnant?
 
Definitely. We all knew it was BS from the beginning, but I think we initially assumed it was TM's way of trying to make the marriage look like it was in a great place, so they could claim there was no reason for them to murder Heather. To make it seem like the pregnancy test was really for TM makes even more sense IMO.

Hypothetically, if SM were to get on the stand and say the test was for TM, and that she was pregnant, could her doctor records (from before incarceration) be subpoenaed?
 
Remember TM posting about seeing a boyfriend for the past few years? That post proves their marriage wasn't as solid as they want people to believe. I don't think she would have said that if she was pregnant.

With all of the heartbreaking pregnancy losses/miscarriages/infertility that goes on, it takes a really sick, evil and heartless witch to lie about being pregnant in attempt to cover up a murder. It's seriously an evil the average person can't even comprehend!
 
The $5000 withdrawal. Was that substantiated? I remember something about a lot of cash in the house, and then later that that wasn't true. Can't remember it all...When was the withdrawal? (I guess I need to go and see if it's in the timeline). Could that have been a bribe to Heather to have an abortion and go away quietly? I apologize if this has been asked and answered a million times...the memory isn't what it used to be. :(

Attorney's said 'prove it'. I don't know if it was ever proven. But the M's had thousands of $$ in their safe.
 
Longtime lurker on all of the HE threads. Never really had anything of significant value to add. However, I will say in my experience, someone from tilted kilt would have told SM. I worked at Hooters and Tilted Kilt for a short time during college, and I will tell you this, in my experience, these type of restaurants are the cattiest, most gossip filled environments ever. Also, her weight gain and possible sources of it would have been something very much so discussed. It was strange to me how often personal life crossed over to work and was openly discussed. I had waited tables elsewhere and it was nothing like working in the "breasteraunt" industry.

What sealed the deal for me today was the pay phone calls and the botched lying done by SM. If you are telling someone to leave you alone, in an affair your wife already knows about, you would be doing it on speaker phone in front of said wife. You wouldn't be sneaking out to call in the manner he did. I think they had probably broke things off, and then she realized she was pregnant, and not wanting to get SM in trouble had tried leaving him notes saying they needed to talk. When word got back to him she might be pregnant, he reached back out to her. I think he got her to get in the car with him, and either TM was there, or he did something to her on his own(Which is kind of how I'm leaning but at the same time I could see them both being in on it).
 
Anyone catching the exclusive interview with SM on WBTW tonight?
 
Remember TM posting about seeing a boyfriend for the past few years? That post proves their marriage wasn't as solid as they want people to believe. I don't think she would have said that if she was pregnant.
Also, why would her sister state she needs to get sober at the end of January if she was pregnant?

Good points. TM is a walking contradiction. Lie upon lie. Her marriage was not solid. It was not because she had a boyfriend for the past few years. It was to cover her embarrassment and or to protect her husband and herself. She said that to make people believe she had no rage about the affair, therefore she and SM didn't do a thing to Heather. It's funny by saying she was pregnant if she did have a boyfriend it could have been his baby. LOL when you lie to cover up lies it comes back to bite you. And yes with sis saying she needed to get sober, I am sure the good wife would never drink with a baby on board. What a terrible tangled web we weave.
 
Here' are the M's activities after December 18 (from the timeline thread):

Jan 8-12: Half Marathon Weekend at Walt Disney World

Jan 11: SM participated in a half marathon at Walt Disney World

Jan 17: TM posted on Facebook that her husband had had an affair with Heather, and complained that Heather's family members were harassing them

Jan 17: GS and two women were named in a harassment complaint filed by members of the M household due to postings on social media

Jan 19: Searchers near the Moorer home were threatened with assault and battery by members of TM's family

Jan 25: TM sent text messages saying Belize sounded good, and that she was packing her camper and running to Canada

Jan 28: SM texted his sister-in-law for advice on what to do "with her acting the way she is"; SIL responded that "she needs to get sober."

Jan 28: BB and GS were arrested and charged with obstructing justice resulting from misleading Facebook posts and searches and interviews without LE approval

Feb 2: SM texted to TM that he "made a horrible choice" in his affair with Heather, but thought he could change their future together for the better

Feb 4: TE reported to LE that two men in a black Jeep drove by his place of business and yelled at him, “Heather was first, [Heather's sister] is next”

Feb 6: The Horry County police chief said over a dozen search warrants had been executed since Dec 18, and several polygraphs had been administered

Feb 6: The M family reported to LE that someone in a light-colored truck fired two shots at their vehicle as they drove toward Georgetown on Ocean Highway

Feb 11: When a WMBF reporter knocked on his door, SM refused to comment on the case

Feb 20: SM reported to LE that two men in a white truck pointed a shotgun at him in a parking lot on Kings Highway; he was subsequently treated at Grand Strand Hospital for undisclosed reasons

Feb 20: TM complained about harassment on her FB page, threatening to file charges "against everyone we possibly can"

Friday, Feb 21: • 7:30am: LE executed search warrants at the Moorer home; SM and TM were arrested, each on charges of Obstruction of Justice and two counts of Indecent Exposure
 
I have always found it odd the arrest came the very day after SM hospital trip. We once thought it was bc he talked (cooperation with LE) but now I wonder if he got news of the arrest or just lost it from the stress? :thinking:

JMO
 
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