Sievers Sidebar #2

[Eileen730]

What are you talking about?
There absolutely is a difference between partaking in it once in a while and being addicted.

Not everyone who has a glass of wine or two regularly is an alcoholic. The difference being someone who can take it or leave it and someone who cannot.

Thing is I have not heard anyone say Mark smoked so why are we calling him the addict?
We have heard 2 ppl say she had issues with pot.
do I think he smoked sure I do
And for her sister to say she stopped and hadn't smoke in what months to me says she had a problem stopping the pot.

But that's just My opinion!

The poor woman is dead.
But she was a human being with vices like all the rest of us.
We cant change what those that know her have said.
I think she confided in LS all her secrets and inner feelings.

 

[redfish]

Very Interesting interview. I like this guy.

 

[Frigga]

I believe that LS knew very little about Dr. Sievers relationships with her staff. What I observed and experienced in the office doesn't come close to how LS describes it.

Thank you SWFlorida- you have no idea what it means to some of us to hear this.

I wish we had others posting more about this because I feel this whole situation is critical in regards to what happened to dear Teresa.

 

[FelicityLemon]

BBM. Plus, some anti-anxiety meds are verrrrrry strong and negatively impact memory, energy levels in some people. Drugs are drugs, pill form or otherwise but IMHO, weed is nowhere near as life destroying when used by adults who have anxiety, insomnia, cancer v. coping with alcohol, pain killers, abusing Xanax, ADD meds, etc.

ETA: I definitely do not mean that weed should be used to treat pain by cancer patients instead of traditional painkillers. Just that smoking pot can alleviate some pain, increase appetite. I reread my post and felt the need to write this entirely too long clarification. :facepalm:

100% in agreement with you on everything except for the part where you say your post is too long, lol! I don't smoke, it's not my thing, but I don't have a problem with people who do. I don't care who does it recreationally or medically. Just as I don't have a problem with someone taking medication for thyroid or any other medical condition.

The same drug can do different things to different people and while traditionally prescribed pills may not work or worse, have disastrous side effects for some people, pot can be a viable alternative. It's good to have an alternative that you know won't kill you. It may not help some, but it won't kill them.

A drug is a drug is a drug, and yes, it's illegal, but that's comparing apples and oranges. IMO. Hopefully, it won't be illegal for long. Cocaine used to be legal, but that didn't make it a "good" drug, so in my mind, legality has nothing to do with efficacy and legitimacy in helping.

Sometimes I think it would be good if chocolate were illegal. Maybe I wouldn't have a weight problem. :drumroll:

 

[Zuri]

I can hardly stand the whole legal or illegal argument.

Nicotine is a drug- a completely legal drug that people smoke. It effects the central nervous system and alters your mood however temporary.

Alcohol is a drug- a completely legal drug that alters your mood.

Antidepressants are drugs- completely legal (with a script)- they alter brain chemistry and or the central nervous system and alter someones mood. They have serious side effects.

I agree. It is a risk vs reward type thing and a personal choice. However, for an MD with a DEA license, possession of illegal substances, if caught, could ruin your career. That is all I was implying and by no means am I critical of anyone for their personal choices. Physicians are held to a higher standard IMO.

 

[creepingskills]

Its only different because you like one and hate the other!
Pot is pot!
U smoke it you get high!
We cant make it fine for one and not the other one.

I think they both had their issues and both smoked the weed.
JMO

I think MS is the same guy he was 15 years ago. TS had her stuff together, always. She was a highly functioning individual consistently throughout her life, so the fact that she smoked a joint instead of having a glass of wine makes no difference to me. With all drugs, you're impaired. IMO, the impairment level of pot is less than alcohol. If I had to choose between a moderately drunk driver, or driving with a really high (on weed) driver, I would pick the really high driver.

Also, TylenolPM, NyQuil are two over the counter medications that definitely make me feel high. I wouldn't drive or go to work on them but I certainly wouldn't feel bad for 'getting high' to sleep. I accidentally took a NyQuil instead of a DayQuil from the same stupid value pack during my first semester of law school. I'll never forget the horror of realizing what I did, and why I felt high as a kite. No more NyQuil or DayQuil for me after that episode.

 

[Cricket99]

My understanding is that Teresa felt that there were other doctors who didn't have the advanced training in metabolic and nutritional medicine as well as board certification in anti-aging and functional medicine who attempted to present themselves as "Holistic" doctors, trained and board certified in these specialty disciplines. That irritated her to some degree because she put in many extra years to gain these recognized credentials - but more importantly, doctors who didn't have the credentials could inadvertently give "bad" information. I know we spoke about this as it related to functional medicine and bio-identical hormones on a few occasions. So I don't believe she was talking about Frank. In fact, I only ever heard good things about Frank and Sandra as people - even if professionally, they didn't fit the needs of the new path she was taking anymore or didn't accomplish what was needed in the office.

And by the way, when I heard KW mention that MS made her uncomfortable, as if he was coming on to her - in addition to saying "quirky" (a nice way of saying inappropriate) things to her it fit 100%! with what I know to be true about MS and how he was with many of Teresa's friends, colleagues etc..... So gross and so disrespectful. And as I said before, I saw this behavior first hand.

I know I am late in remarking on this, but I wonder if CWW was stealing meds and Dr. S was going to find someone else for the IT work, especially with the new venture.

 

[Timekeeper65]

BBM. Plus, some anti-anxiety meds are verrrrrry strong and negatively impact memory, energy levels in some people. Drugs are drugs, pill form or otherwise but IMHO, weed is nowhere near as life destroying when used by adults who have anxiety, insomnia, cancer v. coping with alcohol, pain killers, abusing Xanax, ADD meds, etc.

ETA: I definitely do not mean that weed should be used to treat pain by cancer patients instead of traditional painkillers. Just that smoking pot can alleviate some pain, increase appetite. I reread my post and felt the need to write this entirely too long clarification. :facepalm:

Creepingskills, IDK what state you live in but you would make a very good advocate for persons with disabilities who would greatly benefit from medical marijuana.

I believe the old stigma of marijuana is part of the reason so many states are holding out. Maybe It should be named to something without the marijuana connotation. Like maybe medical Mary Jane, or medical pain diminisher, or medical PTSD helper, or medical epilepsy stopper. Wish I could come up with some fancy fandangled wonderful stupendous name for medical marijuana that would help promote its use for medical purposes.

Wish it was available to help those who really need it.

 

[No it's not]

Good point. Again, TS cannot defend herself and maybe LS was instrumental in her and her husband being let go.
Does anyone know if SH was still working at the office while LS gave this interview?

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Happened at the same day.

-Nin

 

[FelicityLemon]

I puff puff only after dark and my husband and family are so happy I do...lol

LOL! Ah, the things we do for our loved ones!

 

[Frigga]

I know I am late in remarking on this, but I wonder if CWW was stealing meds and Dr. S was going to find someone else for the IT work, especially with the new venture.

First of all there were no narcotics at her medical practice.

Second we have no proof that Teresa even knew CWW was her supposed IT guy- let alone ever met him. IIRC

 

[creepingskills]

When you have a DEA license for prescribing narcotics, contact with any illegal substance is not wise. Sure fired way to lose it. IMO

I would think abusing prescription medication, or inappropriately prescribing would be a more sure fire way of losing your DEA license than smoking pot in your own home, on your own time. Florida isn't quick to revoke licenses even when doctors are caught with Class A drugs or abusing their power to prescribe, so JMO TS probably wasn't too concerned about the risk of being arrested and losing her license for smoking pot.:moo:

 

[FelicityLemon]

Many ppl believe Pot is beneficial and don't see it as bad.
Thing is it is Illegal. No matter who u are, Still a NoNo in Fl.

I don't understand why its not believed she did these things
pot- antidepressants - Its things ppl use.


She also was not a Vegan as she ate eggs. and it seems they ate a lot of eggs.

Speaking for myself, I don't have a problem thinking she took antidepressants or smoked some. What I have a problem with is that she isn't here to validate the statements that she was "addicted to pot" "addicted to sex" or had "her prescription written in her husband's name to avoid a paper trail".

Those statements bother me. I already said why I doubt she was addicted to pot because of her energy level. A little recreational reefer is different and I don't judge that.

She isn't here to tell us which version (if any) is correct: was she a sex addict or had a non-existent libido or was closet lesbian. Conflicting information from her husband and her "dear friend" who didn't know as much about TS as she wants LE to believe.

I actually feel like LS has betrayed TS with her fantasy portrayal. I'm sure LE knows what's what and considers the source.

 

[creepingskills]

Thing is I have not heard anyone say Mark smoked so why are we calling him the addict?
We have heard 2 ppl say she had issues with pot.
do I think he smoked sure I do
And for her sister to say she stopped and hadn't smoke in what months to me says she had a problem stopping the pot.

But that's just My opinion!

The poor woman is dead.
But she was a human being with vices like all the rest of us.
We cant change what those that know her have said.
I think she confided in LS all her secrets and inner feelings.

BBM. For me it says the opposite. People with drug addictions can't just stop for months on end. TS was in control. If AL said TS only intended to quit smoking but couldn't, then I could understand your point.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Exactly: the whole TS knowingly committed prescription drug fraud by prescribing her own antidepressants to her husband when she could have just called them in for herself is crazy. And she did this to cover her tracks for some reason but hey, she has a drug dealer who knows about her illegal purchases.

I'll wait for the toxicology. I'm not buying what LS is selling

 

[Frigga]

My post misunderstood. Yes MS played a part but I was saying that CWW was not only there for MS, or his share of the loot but for a personal vendetta too. We have not seen any evidence yet because I feel they (LE) are not sharing that yet. I'm sure TS and CWW were not Facebook buddies but I'm sure they were acquainted in other ways. This case has a huge web. Drs office and CWW's role in an indirect way involving his computer work.

Got it! Thanks so much, I understand your points much better now.

Do we know for sure that Teresa actually knew Wayne?

 

[Eileen730]

Who close to Mark is even telling us about Mark- NO ONE.

It makes it pretty difficult for someone to tell us things about Mark when no one is talking.

One person who seems to know Mark pretty well sure isn't talking about him much outside of the fact that "he drove Teresa crazy". I find THAT very telling. Oh, but I forget this person just loved Mark and had a hard time talking about him (in so many words).

Well I didn't hear anyone badmouth him in their interviews!

 

[Frigga]

I'm not buying it either.

 

[Sulamith]

She might not have been concerned about being arrested or losing her license for smoking pot, but I wonder if that revelation could have hurt her practice. Why do this and that to rid yourself of negative energy, anxiety, when simply smoking a joint could help a bit?

 

[Sulamith]

Exactly: the whole TS knowingly committed prescription drug fraud by prescribing her own antidepressants to her husband when she could have just called them in for herself is crazy. And she did this to cover her tracks for some reason but hey, she has a drug dealer who knows about her illegal purchases.

I'll wait for the toxicology. I'm not buying what LS is selling

Why do you think LS would lie about that?