First instinct tells me...
'not enough data to hang anyone'.
Of course that wasn't a poll choice.
One single character of writing is not going to make any handwriting analyst happy. Studying hundreds of characters from two different writers and placing the most similar next to each other will produce a false positive, IMO.
There were handwriting experts complaining that the PR exemplars they had weren't enough and were written in the wrong pen for analysis.
I suggest looking at it from the same POV as the pros. That is, what is the probability that PR could've authored the ENTIRE ransom note (Not just one letter)? That is really the question at hand, BTW.
According to a linguist its nearly zero.
It was a simple question with no trick behind it,
why so defensive about it HOTYH?
So your first instinct told ya you need to defend PR.
THANKS!
OK you'll get no more response from me! I understand.
I suggest looking at it from the same POV as the pros.
Enjoying your thread here...Fine, sample to show how PR and the RN as alot of similarties..Just by glance you can see this....
First instinct tells me...
'not enough data to hang anyone'.
Of course that wasn't a poll choice.
One single character of writing is not going to make any handwriting analyst happy.
There were handwriting experts complaining that the PR exemplars they had weren't enough and were written in the wrong pen for analysis.
I suggest looking at it from the same POV as the pros. That is, what is the probability that PR could've authored the ENTIRE ransom note (Not just one letter)? That is really the question at hand, BTW.
OK you'll get no more response from me! I understand.
Last I checked, no one's talking about "hanging" anyone, HOTYH. It was a simple question.
I didn't want to start another PR did or didn't write the ransom note thread but since we were talking about prima facie ..........sometimes you don't even have to dig that deep...
A jury might not even have the patience to hear 100 experts arguing re she did or she didn't write the note because this and that..but they might look at these two samples and say "yep,it's the same writer" or "nope,it's not written by the same person"...............
You're kidding, right?
Colorado is a capital murder state, and this forum is heavily populated by RDI.
Those who would like nothing better for possibly innocent person to be convicted of child murder.
Sorry but thats a laugh!
Third, as madeleine said, this is not an attempt to restart the old "did PR or didn't she" argument. This was an attempt for people, who theoretically might not know who wrote those examples, to say the first thing which came into their minds.
Those who would like nothing better for possibly innocent person to be convicted of child murder.
You're kidding, right? Colorado is a capital murder state, and this forum is heavily populated by RDI. Those who would like nothing better for possibly innocent person to be convicted of child murder.
Sorry but thats a laugh!
HOTYH: I am sorry but I am just catching up after a few days off. Honestly, tho' but, you aren't seriously suggesting that anyone would have faced the death penalty in Boulder for this crime? Even IDI have to allow for a distinction between Boulder and the rest of Colorado in terms of justice.
Turning the tables on you, though, you talk about RDI wanting nothing better than possibly innocent people to be convicted of child murder. This is frankly risible. Admittedly, your suspect is so remote that you don't expect him ever to be identified, let alone convicted, so no one can accuse you of rushing to hang an innocent person. However, RDI have analysed this case inside out, so it is reprehensible of you to suggest that we are some kind of lynch mob.
WRT the original question asked by Madeleine, she was just asking a simple question that asked only a simple, honest answer. There is absolutely nothing that could convict Patsy in the two samples so I can't quite see why you wouldn't admit of a certain similarity. We admit that the DNA might be that of the killer. You can surely admit of a couple of letters looking similar...
Again, unless a suspect who fits your profile turns up, I think you actually think that the test in this case should be Beyond Any Doubt. Remember, though, that you'll be held to this if ever revolutionary socialist from a monarchy with combat-training and a propensity for wearing women's clothes ever shows up...
The LAST thing RDI should want to do is to convince a jury that JBR was previously abused, that PR lost it and accidentally killed her, covered it up to make it look like a murder by foreign faction, and manipulated LE the day of the murder.
I looks the same, but with different pen widths. I have never seen an "e" that looks like that, not even from family members who write in block or semi-block letters.
So, is one from the letter and one from Patsy's sample? I have not followed this much.