Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #15

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I decided to start over & re-read from early on..
Nothing has really changed for example :

06-09-2008, 11:17 AM SeriouslySearching
I don't understand why the news is so slow in coming out about this. If it happened yesterday, they should be all over this by now. Most of the news reports are on air, but not online. I have so many questions already.

Originally Posted by philamena
SuziQ,
I think I need new glasses. lol :p
I cannot find anything in the above article that mentions 3 suspects. Can you help me?


SuziQ 6-10-08
It sure doesn't! What I copy and pasted was the title of the article at that time. Evidently Channel9 news made a change in a big way after the presser. Which is curious, IIRC, the article made it sound like they were almost ready to make an arrest. So how do you go from THREE suspects to NONE?

IMO, LE thought wrongly that they had the right people and now are back to square one.
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Hi 99. Love your new avitar! I think I need to get caught up. Cant hardly believe what I'm reading!
 
Looks like I need to start re-reading too. Of course, I didnt join you all until later in the posting, so I havent read from the beginning, but thought I was caught up. Maybe it's old age, but where did the 3 suspects and this come from? I guess I really do need to go back! I never knew they were about to arrest anyone!

originally posted by SuziQ 6-10-08
It sure doesn't! What I copy and pasted was the title of the article at that time. Evidently Channel9 news made a change in a big way after the presser. Which is curious, IIRC, the article made it sound like they were almost ready to make an arrest. So how do you go from THREE suspects to NONE?


 
I did'nt remember that either & they did update the page & changed it.

Thanks Frog ..you gave me the idea :)
 
FlowerChild said:
It was a stabbing, not a shooting.

Lanita got life because she came up with the idea to set up the victims and call in the gangbanger brothers to rob them. She planned the whole thing KNOWING that there was going to be a crime committed against the victims. She may not have thought that violence/murder would occur but she was a co-conspirator and did NOTHING to stop or prevent the crime, nor did she aid the victim. A murder occurred as a direct result of HER ACTIONS in targeting and luring the victims and giving the brothers their location. She made the phone call to her boyfriend and told them exactly where the victims were - and then left the room and waited while the murder and robbery took place. The other girl was smart enough to turn state's evidence and testify against the others - Lanita was obviously loyal to the gang and her "man" to the end. We also have no idea how she might have helped the murderer and his brother (her boyfriend) AFTER the crime. She may have played a part in a cover-up or disposing of evidence.

It's sad when young women get caught up in gangs and murder at 17 and 18 but she was an ADULT when this occurred and if the testimony is true - it was her idea to set up the men for the brothers to rob in their hotel room. She didn't stab the man, but it was HER ACTIONS that led to him being killed - without her actions, nobody would have died. And she didn't get LWOP, she got life - she may get out in 20 or 30 years depending on her behavior in prison. The two men who were active participants in the murder/robbery - well one is serving LWOP and the other is on death row.

"Baby cousin Nita" is a murderer just a sure as if she'd stabbed the victim herself - she set him up and because of HER he died in the 1st hours of a New Year for no other reason than he took up a pretty girl on an offer - an offer which had NO crime involved - the girls didn't tell the victims the "lie" that they were prostitutes until they were IN the men's hotel room. An idea (along with the fake robbery by "pimp") Nita came up with AFTER the victims had flashed a large amount of cash earlier in the evening.

The whole thing was Nita's IDEA, that's why she is in prison.

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Sorry. I stand corrected.
 
Trino said:
While I'm not in Weleetka, somehow I have the feeling that the outrage is not present like it should be. Could this be because many in Weleetka are economically disadvantaged and don't have enough influence to pressure OSBI? However, even nationally this story doesn't seem to have the front page presence equal to that of the Elizabeth Smart or Jessica Lundsford cases.

Maybe the outrage should be that people aren't outraged.
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The embarressment is the reward, merely 30,000, while in Florida 250.000 reward for any information in locating Caycee? Weleetkans are outraged, and helping in everyway they can, the POI..doesn't look familar to locals, he isn't standing on the corner having a soda (unfortanately) 500 leads, that means everyother household in Weleetka have called in information. I don't agree this is a local, and I beleive this is a "cold case".
 
LifeSaver said:
The embarressment is the reward, merely 30,000, while in Florida 250.000 reward for any information in locating Caycee? Weleetkans are outraged, and helping in everyway they can, the POI..doesn't look familar to locals, he isn't standing on the corner having a soda (unfortanately) 500 leads, that means everyother household in Weleetka have called in information. I don't agree this is a local, and I beleive this is a "cold case".
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I've read some reports, mainly posts saying how much money has been received from generous donations to the families.

Does anyone know the accurate amount of money that has been donated to the burial fund for the victims' families?

In articles it said to send donations to the Bank of Commerce in Weleetka. Couldn't this expense have been offered for free?

Why don't the families use that money to add to the Reward?
 
LifeSaver said:
The embarressment is the reward, merely 30,000, while in Florida 250.000 reward for any information in locating Caycee? Weleetkans are outraged, and helping in everyway they can, the POI..doesn't look familar to locals, he isn't standing on the corner having a soda (unfortanately) 500 leads, that means everyother household in Weleetka have called in information. I don't agree this is a local, and I beleive this is a "cold case".
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The Caylee case is drawing so much $$$ because there is a hope the child is still alive - and because the family (her Mother and Grandmother) are perfect Tabloid fodder - LE is releasing everything Casey (the Mom) says in jail, including visits and phone calls and the family (and their associates) are talking to People, to other tabloids, to the media non-stop. It takes SOMEBODY, LE, the family, a reporter or writer - to keep the public interest burning and since in this case OSBI has held every single piece of hard evidence like it was going to get away if they let it out in public and no-one from the families (except "Uncle Joe") has spoken in weeks and so far no-one in the media is championing the case the Weleetka case grows dim in the Public's memory compared to dead wives and missing 2 year-olds whose families and friends (and detectives) are talking things up daily.

The Whitakers and Plackers are not interested in the media angle and obviously neither family feels comfortable beating the media drum for attention and air time. If LE won't do it, it then is up to the family (or a writer or reporter) to keep pressure on LE - and right now NO-ONE is stepping up to keep this case fresh. In every case where resolution has occured after the case had long being unsolved it was a family member who kept the case (and the victims) in the media. It's hard, you basically have to give up your child to the public - everything about him or her that you held precious is no longer a private treasure - but another hook to make that child live in the eyes of the fickle public. And you give up your privacy to some extent and you open your family (All of it) to public inspection, scrutiny and judgement. Obviously the Plackers and the Whitakers prefer things this way - keeping their privacy even if it may mean the killer(s) escape justice for now. The Plackers are moving and I would think the Whitakers may not be far behind them - it's obviously too painful and too difficult for either family to step forward right now- if ever. And it appears that the OSBI does not (for whatever reason) want to keep this case "out there" right now. I hope they have a good reason.

I do NOT belive the case is "cold" - it has been only 2 months and there is evidence that has NOT been processed totally yet and leads that have not been tracked to their end. It is often MONTHS on cases like this (where a suspect is not obvious) before a single break occurs. This isn't CSI and things don't get wrapped up with a nice resolution in an hour. In real life, and real crimes (mysterious ones especially) resolution comes slowly - often after months of tedious investigation and chasing dead-end after dead-end. LE NEVER forgets children - the Girl Sout Murders are not forgotten after 30 YEARS and those victims still mean something to LE - as will Taylor and Skyla. The search for their killer(s) will NEVER end.

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I've heard over 100.000 was taken in by donations for each family. Rose, bought her a new SUV...and Whitakers have been seen at the local casinos. I don't have the amount written, its all rumor. I don't have any answers to your question about why the families didn't add a portion of the funds, to the reward. Sorry.
 
LifeSaver said:
I've heard over 100.000 was taken in by donations for each family. Rose, bought her a new SUV...and Whitakers have been seen at the local casinos. I don't have the amount written, its all rumor. I don't have any answers to your question about why the families didn't add a portion of the funds, to the reward. Sorry.
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I had asked you here
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2410652&postcount=379 to clarify what amount you are saying, but you never responded.

I'm again in the dark as to the amount the posted above :confused:
 
LifeSaver said:
I've not certain of the amount, I hear its over 100.000 for each family. Rose, bought a new SUV...and I hear they are gambling a lot. I'm not sure exactly why that money was given to the families, and not added with the award.
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Third time asking here, what is 100.000
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Are you saying one thousand, one-hundred thousand, what :confused:
 
EGirl said:
I would like to add that Insane Clown Possee isn't a GANG. It's a musical group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insane_Clown_Posse
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Police in certain areas are classifying followers of Insane Clown Posse, called "Juggalos" as a gang due to their criminal behavior. Read the articles about the boy who got stabbed with a battle ax in crimes in the news. The 2 that did it were juggalos. This is not to say that all juggalos act like that; yet the police are classifying them as gangs in areas.
 
Going back to the boys with the guns in the area. What if one of them or two of them accidentally, or even intentionally in a fit of rage, shot the girls, then realized after the fact the consequences? What if they fled the scene because they were afraid of the gunshots being heard? What if they realized they couldn't go back and hide the bodies because they would be spotted and were familiar enough to the people in the area that they would be recognized if they tried? What if some of the boys in the group did not know what happened, because one or two of them had walked through the woods away from their group briefly and they did the crime and therefore could not tell the rest of the group? What if the one who did the killing in that group, contacted someone they knew who would not be recognized in the area, to go gather up the shell casings, and remove the girls from the scene? What if the killer was nearby directing the guy in the truck where to find the girls? What if in the middle of gathering up shell casings and preparing to move the bodies, the guy in the truck realizes he's been spotted and he has to leave. He didn't do the killing but he was the clean-up. That could explain the odd things such as gathering up the shell casings into a pile but leaving them behind.
That could explain the truck at a funny angle. That could explain the crouched position of the guy with the truck when spotted. He was there for a bad reason but he wasn't the killer. His job was to cover up the crime scene. That could also explain why it sometimes appears this was an intentional killing but too many loose ends to be professional hit. Just thinking aloud here. Might not have any merit to it.
 
ArizonaGiGi said:
5 shots to the body, 1 to the head
I just finished watching a 1993 movie titled The Young Americans. It takes place in London, where an American drug lord recruits young innocent people without any arrest records, to do his dirty work. If he thinks they might talk to the cops he has them killed, each one has 5 shots to the body, 1 to the head . That's his signature. :eek:
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I posted this on the previous thread, but bumping it over here with corrections and clarification. I have never heard of this "5 to the body, 1 to the head" until Weleetka. Wondering if that is some type of signature or meaning in the drug world?
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It could be possible the killer/s is a fan of the movie, and copied the idea from there. I would think he would have to be a good shot to get it all right. Do we know if the bullet wounds (6 on each girl) lined up to form points of a star?
 
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,700247105,00.html

"Juggalos are fans of the rap group Insane Clown Posse, known for their violent lyrics. During a recent Utah Gang Conference, however, law enforcers said they now classified Juggalos as a gang because of a continued pattern of criminal activity. Gang detectives estimated there are 3,000 to 4,000 Juggalos in Utah, with about 70 percent of them being people who just like the music. But the other percentage of self-proclaimed Juggalos overshadow the law-abiding fans with their consistent criminal behavior, according to police."



Here i made it easier with a link
 
MeoW333 said:
It could be possible the killer/s is a fan of the movie, and copied the idea from there. I would think he would have to be a good shot to get it all right.
Do we know if the bullet wounds (6 on each girl) lined up to form points of a star?
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To my knowledge, nothing has been officially released as to how many, or at what points on the girl's bodies has been released.

Anyone have a link to otherwise?
 
MeoW333 said:
It could be possible the killer/s is a fan of the movie, and copied the idea from there. I would think he would have to be a good shot to get it all right. Do we know if the bullet wounds (6 on each girl) lined up to form points of a star?
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I do not believe the information has been revealed or let out yet, as to where and/or how many times each girl was shot. ANd I believe that any information we may have could be due to the comments of a family member stating what she saw. I try to believe that she was probably in shock.
Anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
 
LifeSaver said:
I've not certain of the amount, I hear its over 100.000 for each family. Rose, bought a new SUV...and I hear they are gambling a lot. I'm not sure exactly why that money was given to the families, and not added with the award.
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Reading this just sickened me.
 
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