Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #9

[kahskye]

Just got another email from Johnny. osbi is now going nationwide in their search. not sure exactly what that means except for it doesn't sound like they are finding what they are looking for.

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http://www.crimeweb.net:80/details.asp?id=12544

 

[Lyn1001]

Just got another email from Johnny. osbi is now going nationwide in their search. not sure exactly what that means except for it doesn't sound like they are finding what they are looking for.

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http://www.crimeweb.net:80/details.asp?id=12544

Interesting, in update mentions trying to get any information on "the suspect". Are they using that as a general statement, or are they now saying the POI is a suspect?

 

[DeltaDawn]

Wow Kahskye thank you once again. So the little dog was found alive the next day in the area of the bridge. I am surprised it didn't find it's way back home by that time.

Also interesting they are going national with this search. That means if it is a local,as they first thought, then some local has been gone for awhile.

Also interesting what the 18 year old girl's lawyer says..that other family members have seen this guy in the area of their property before and after the crimes. That still could be the truth. Just that he wasn't seen that day imparticular that she called the police.

 

[Albert18]

... I read where they traced the dog's print to the bridge and back. I wonder just how well they looked to see if the dog made a turn back to the bridge. The gunfire might have scared him/her.

Thanks for the info.

I wonder about this as well. I hope they determined the dog became separated from the girls at the area of the shooting and not at the bridge. This would be an extremely important question to answer.

If the dog bolted at the area of the shooting I am somewhat surprised it went back to the bridge since the shooting was so close to the house. I assume the dog was very familiar with that road.

There is a nature area about 6 miles from my house where I take the dogs for a walk once in a while. To get there I make 5 turns and there are two different routes I can take. One time shortly after I got to the area some hot air balloons were taking off a short distance away. One of my dogs got scared and bolted on me. I spent an hour looking all over that place for the dog and finally went home to get my wife to help me look. When I got home the dog was there waiting for me.

 

[Albert18]

Kahskye, do you have Rosser's email address? I could come up with a few questions for him also.

I think LE is stuck. Just plain stuck.

I was hoping the canvassing of the area this last weekend and bringing in the dog meant they were trying to find something specific, but now I think they were just beating the bushes.

Not good.

 

[Invisible]

Albert, if you e-mail Rosser, will you ask him if the dog was hurt in any way? Were there any scrapes or injuries on the dog that would have prevented the dog from going back home?
TIA

 

[Albert18]

Albert, if you e-mail Rosser, will you ask him if the dog was hurt in any way? Were there any scrapes or injuries on the dog that would have prevented the dog from going back home?
TIA

Oh, I was joking.

 

[Invisible]

OOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhh. Sorry.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Interesting, in update mentions trying to get any information on "the suspect". Are they using that as a general statement, or are they now saying the POI is a suspect?

I think they are now pulling out all the stops in order to find this POI. I hope this means they have finally asked for the FBIs help.

imoo

 

[Garnan]

Here's an example of inept police work in this part of the country. This week a woman was killed (shot) in her bed at 4 am. Husband says somebody broke into the house shot and killed her and shot him in the hand. He give a vague description of the perp and claims that he had a couple hundred dollars that is now missing.

Cops are in an all out manhunt. Helllllloooooooooo! The perp is standing right in front of you.

 

[Albert18]

Well, let's not stop with the little yellow dog. I have more questions.

* Where did the original 5pm start of the timeline come from and what info caused them to change it to 4:30pm or thereafter?

* What time were Taylor and Skyla last seen alive?

* Is there any info besides the two weapons that leads you to think it was two shooters?

* Did the witness who drove past the POI mention the girls?

* I assume that after the shootings, the killer beat a hasty retreat. Did anyone see the white truck leaving the area at high speed or does anybody remember any other vehicle speeding?

* Did people who weren't on that particular part of the road see the POI in the white truck and if so, how many people were in the truck?

* How close do you think the shooter was to the girls?

* Was the shooter at ground level?

* Did they get good enough tire imprints from the scene to determine the brand of tire and does this help in identifying whether it was a Ford or Chevy?

* Are the shell casings from both weapons or just one?

* You recently announced you know what type of weapons were used and now we are being told you want to take the search national. Any connection between these two?

* Let's assume for a moment there are no lawyers. Do you think the POI is a/the shooter? If so, then help me with one POI but two shooters.

* Where did Peter find Taylor's cell phone?

* Estimated time of crime?????

* Type of weapons used?????

 

[evelyn24]

The motive has to do with the dog. Something happened between the girls and the creep, and it was about the dog. I believe that with all my heart and soul.

Then I think he/they would've shot the dog and not the girls, no?

 

[evelyn24]

Wow Kahskye thank you once again. So the little dog was found alive the next day in the area of the bridge. I am surprised it didn't find it's way back home by that time.

Also interesting they are going national with this search. That means if it is a local,as they first thought, then some local has been gone for awhile.

Also interesting what the 18 year old girl's lawyer says..that other family members have seen this guy in the area of their property before and after the crimes. That still could be the truth. Just that he wasn't seen that day imparticular that she called the police.

Didn't she fail a poly, though?

 

[christine2448]

Then I think he/they would've shot the dog and not the girls, no?

Good point. IMO.

 

[evelyn24]

I think they are now pulling out all the stops in order to find this POI. I hope this means they have finally asked for the FBIs help.

imoo

I think this man bolted as soon as he did this crime, and maybe into Mexico.
He is not an immediate local, but definitely from OK (tag was an OK tag), maybe he knows the area because he lived there as a kid years and years ago?
Maybe he visited friends who once lived there many years ago, or just found the road by traveling around looking for some trouble.
I do not think he is in any way connected to either girl and that's why they haven't been able to ID him yet.

 

[KR2tonenow]

From BB's post:Randy "Mad" Mark Yager

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=29506

I've read almost every post on this case, and this is a first for me. How interesting that he is on AMW's top 15 list, Most Wanted.

This case could be about stolen vehicles, drug manufacturing, drug dealing, arms dealing and the murder of woman and children.

Mad Yager fits right in with this case. IMO

Also, thanks for the response re: canine's. I sure hope they come up with more then bullet casings. When the girls were shot, I don't recall what "bullets" were used?

from SS post:
Pat Brown gave her take on this. I don't recall exactly what she said, but she thought it was sexual and to look for two young locals who spent most of their time together. (A lot of what she said didn't make sense to me especially since the POI doesn't fit into her scenario.)

I remember hearing her say that. I'd like to see someone else do a criminal profile on this .

 

[Annie]

I have been thinking about the case of the two young missionaries who were killed, shot in the head, while they slept on a California beach in 2004. Apparently just a ramdom killing for an unknown reason. As far as I know the killer has never been caught. Then there were the ramdom people killed by Lee Malvo and John Muhammed. Or those killed by the Son of Sam killer or the Zodiac. I am sure there are other cases like this but a random killing can occur simply because someone was in the wrong place at the wrong time when someone evil had killing on his mind. Someone who was very angry at the world and took it out on strangers. I think this could have happened with Taylor and Skyla. Because there hasn't been a killing spree doesn't mean a lot because sometimes there was a longer time period between killings.

 

[FLtwinmom]

I was born and raised in NE Oklahoma. My family still lives there. I have several relatives in law enforcement however none in Weleetka. Actually my dad and uncle are both retired now. I called my dad to get some insight on the case and he was very quiet. My mom lives 20 minutes from Weleetka. I talked to her earlier today and this is what she told me a couple of days after -so it is just what I heard-That a threat was called in the evening of the crime, to shoot any LEO out in the area. Could be a prank I don't know. She said gossip at first, was about the girls witnessing a drug deal. But now she said the feeling is they have run out of leads. One of the first responders asked her to pray for them. If I hear any thing else that is helpful I will let you know.

 

[evelyn24]

I have been thinking about the case of the two young missionaries who were killed, shot in the head, while they slept on a California beach in 2004. Apparently just a ramdom killing for an unknown reason. As far as I know the killer has never been caught. Then there were the ramdom people killed by Lee Malvo and John Muhammed. Or those killed by the Son of Sam killer or the Zodiac. I am sure there are other cases like this but a random killing can occur simply because someone was in the wrong place at the wrong time when someone evil had killing on his mind. Someone who was very angry at the world and took it out on strangers. I think this could have happened with Taylor and Skyla. Because there hasn't been a killing spree doesn't mean a lot because sometimes there was a longer time period between killings.

I agree, and didn't the DC snipers start their murderous partnership months before they went on the MD/DC/VA shooting spree? It's a shame, I live in the area but I forget when they first shot and killed a stranger, but I think it was in the south a few months before they came here to my area.

 

[EnvoyDriver61]

I wonder if the dog's behavior might indicate that the girls were shot from the front/south, and it retreated to the only safety available to the north. Then, there were ambulances and crime scene specialists late in the night on that road. I can see the dog retreating to the bridge until the next day since his means to go home was blocked for the next 18 hours or so.