Agreed. I would have been pretty PO'ed if he didn't come here personally and look at this incredible mess.He was roundly and correctly criticized for his lackadaisical approach to NOLA and Katrina...someone wised up since then.
Agreed. I would have been pretty PO'ed if he didn't come here personally and look at this incredible mess.He was roundly and correctly criticized for his lackadaisical approach to NOLA and Katrina...someone wised up since then.
To me, the issue is less character-assassination of this particular president and more a recognition that we need to value hardcore action over photo ops (regardless of who is president).
4 more dead in SD just found![]()
With Katrina in mind, Bush views Calif. fire damageHe was roundly and correctly criticized for his lackadaisical approach to NOLA and Katrina...someone wised up since then.
I think the President should come here and look at the devastation. If he didn't show up he would be criticised for not giving a chit.
I am not much of Bush defender these days but of course he should check it out.
I heard that. They think they were either trying to back to Mexico
Jbean it almost sounds like you an I were brought up the same way. I was raised no matter who is leading our country. To respect them as we the people voted them in.
you are a great contributer please don't miss this thread for updates:So was I JDB, and now is no time to debate political views when fires are still raging.................shish :doh:
I was going to stay out - but yeesh! None of us are firefighters - discussing possible impacts on the lives of people fighting the fire, the lives of those still in danger from the fire, due to a political visit - is not going to hurt a single thing!So was I JDB, and now is no time to debate political views when fires are still raging.................shish :doh:
--that's awful newsFour badly burned bodies have been found in a burned out rocky canyon near state Route 94 and Highway 188 just west of Potrero.
Law enforcement officials are at the scene and are trying to figure out the logistics of how to get down a very steep canyon wall.
A Border Patrol driving by saw one of the bodies on the canyon slope about 3:30 a.m. When he stopped to investigate he saw the other bodies about 75 to 100 yards down at the bottom of the deep ravine.
Two Border Patrol agents with a cadaver dog are sweeping the canyon right now to make sure there are no other bodies in the area.
The fire apparently just overtook the people, said Sheriff's Lt. Dave Myers.
"It's indicative of the extreme speed and intensity of the fire, " he said.
The bodies are of three men and one woman, said Border Patrol supervisor Joseph Mason.
Bottom line it didn't hamper anything right? There was a logistical problem it was addressed and it's all good. So I just don't see how his visit was disruptive.
I'm so sick of accusations of disloyalty, and all kinds of other implications, for talking about our government, as if any question, finding any fault is not permitted. This is the American way, and how we improve, to look at what we are doing, to question.
I was going to stay out - but yeesh! None of us are firefighters - discussing possible impacts on the lives of people fighting the fire, the lives of those still in danger from the fire, due to a political visit - is not going to hurt a single thing!
I'm so sick of accusations of disloyalty, and all kinds of other implications, for talking about our government, as if any question, finding any fault is not permitted. This is the American way, and how we improve, to look at what we are doing, to question. Other places, they can censor any dissent, prohibit any questions of what the dictator does. This is America. Yes, you can debate political views anytime - or in this case, simply question if a political visit needs to be made at a time when it could cause disruption to the firefighters efforts to put out those raging fires!