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jjenny said:
I think that can be safely ruled out. Her mother says she was not told anything by LE so that certainly rules out her agreeing to some deal.
"Carrie McGonigle, mother of Escondido's Amber Dubois, was also on the show. Amber disappeared in February 2009 and her remains were found near the Pala Casino on March 6. McGonigle said authorities aren't telling her anything about why they believe Gardner may be responsible for her daughter's death."
http://www.nctimes.com/news/local/sdcounty/article_bf032eb1-8155-5219-b75a-dc2334555be0.html
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Interesting.
 
As far as I know, it would not be up to the parents to agree that if JAG told where the body was he would not be charged...they might at some point be able to give their opinion as to penalty phase, but would be weighed against interests of community...at least this is what has happened in other cases...IMO
 
Private Investigator Says He Led Deputies To Dubois' Body

POSTED: 11:34 am PDT March 19, 2010
UPDATED: 11:48 am PDT March 19, 2010


SAN DIEGO -- A private investigator hired by Amber Dubois' grandmother to find the missing teen told 10News he is the person who led San Diego County Sheriff's deputies to Amber's body.
 
How is it that if he was so sure she was there that he didn't go back into that area in August and find her? There are a lot of things that are not making sense with this.
 
Because of it being a reservation I believe they needed permission and they weren't getting it and LE blew it off.
 
Holy moly, that's a revelation. That story makes the "tracked her to the Pala Library" make sense. But it makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

In my view, LE never took this case seriously enough.
 
TranqlMyst said:
Because of it being a reservation I believe they needed permission and they weren't getting it and LE blew it off.
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I heard the publicist (Michelle B) on live radio a couple of weeks ago. She stated that they (the dogs and searchers) were allowed to go anywhere they wanted on the reservation. No one was stopping them, which they found odd.

She also said, FWIW, that it was almost as if the people on the reservation "expected" them.

However, she said the dogs did not lead them to the site on which Amber's body was located. I wonder why we've never heard of Larry Olmstead before? I wonder why Mo and Carrie say they are the only spokespersons for the case? I wonder why MB didn't mention this fact?

This information will be interesting as it develops, if it does.
 
I'm still checking out information about this individual, but have found a couple of interesting links that may cast some doubt on this individual's credibility.

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So if this guy knew where exactly the dogs tracked her, and that's where the body was, why wasn't he the one to find the body all the way back to August?
It's a big area so I doubt police would be able to find the body off his tip unless the dog came really close-in which case one would think this guy would have found the body long ago.
 
pittsburghgirl said:
Holy moly, that's a revelation. That story makes the "tracked her to the Pala Library" make sense. But it makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

In my view, LE never took this case seriously enough.
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What revelation? The police knew the dogs supposedly tracked her to the PALA area long ago. There was a report written. Police did follow up but couldn't confirm anyone had seen her at any of these locations. Now this guy thinks he called the police and they managed to find the body off his tip? They know about these dogs for a long time before this private investigator called them with his tip. And frankly it's a large area, so I doubt police would find the body off a tip that she was supposedly tracked by dogs to the pala library. I would think whoever gave them the tip knew the exact location of the body, or I doubt they would find it.
 
TranqlMyst said:
Because of it being a reservation I believe they needed permission and they weren't getting it and LE blew it off.
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Baloney that he was the tip! Get some volunteer searchers around there, or hire more dogs. And Bart is full of it too regarding her comments about the reservation and its residents. It's not exactly a gated community. The area they were searching outside the library is desolate--who would they expect to stop them? Sarx--any comments about this man stating they were following or using a live scent??
 
SoCalSleuth said:
Baloney that he was the tip! Get some volunteer searchers around there, or hire more dogs. And Bart is full of it too regarding her comments about the reservation and its residents. It's not exactly a gated community. The area they were searching outside the library is desolate--who would they expect to stop them? Sarx--any comments about this man stating they were following or using a live scent??
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I have no idea why this guy thinks he was the source of the tip when police had that information for a long time, since there was a report written on dogs supposedly tracking her to Pala area. But the dogs didn't track her to where her body was found.
It's a large area.
Unless he somehow knew something that was not in the report given to the police, what would make him think police found the body of what he had told them, when they had this info for a long time and couldn't find anything.
 
jjenny said:
I have no idea why this guy thinks he was the source of the tip when police had that information for a long time, since there was a report written on dogs supposedly tracking her to Pala area. But the dogs didn't track her to where her body was found.
It's a large area.
Unless he somehow knew something that was not in the report given to the police, what would make him think police found the body of what he had told them, when they had this info for a long time and couldn't find anything.
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That's my point, he's full of it. Sadly, probably seeking publicity.
 
The two teams worked seperately vk-9 was on the case from Maine and VA -the olmstead guy was hired locally. they had two seperate functions to accomplish.
 
jadejazzkayla said:
link to tip revelation http://www.10news.com/news/22890061/detail.html
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Did you see this at the bottom of the article?

"Editor's Note:
Private investigator Larry Olmstead told 10News he called deputies days after Chelsea King's body. He was found frustrated with the search for Amber Dubois. Olmstead told us he alerted the sheriff's office that dogs brought in by the family had found a live scent near the Pala Library in August. The next day, sheriff's deputies searched the area and found Dubois' remains a few miles away near the Pala Indian Reservation. It was not our intention to imply Olmstead knew the location of Dubois' body."

Sounds like he may have said those things to the police around the same time LE received the tip. I doubt he was the "tip" LE received that led them to Amber's remains. Too vague a description ("by the library") to get them to that location of where her remains were located IMO. (Perhaps he likes the publicity?)
 
Voice4theSilent said:
Did you see this at the bottom of the article?

"Editor's Note:
Private investigator Larry Olmstead told 10News he called deputies days after Chelsea King's body. He was found frustrated with the search for Amber Dubois. Olmstead told us he alerted the sheriff's office that dogs brought in by the family had found a live scent near the Pala Library in August. The next day, sheriff's deputies searched the area and found Dubois' remains a few miles away near the Pala Indian Reservation. It was not our intention to imply Olmstead knew the location of Dubois' body."

Sounds like he may have said those things to the police around the same time LE received the tip. I doubt he was the "tip" LE received that led them to Amber's remains. Too vague a description ("by the library") to get them to that location of where her remains were located IMO. (Perhaps he likes the publicity?)
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If he WAS the tip LE received, they are going to look awfully stupid if he told them that last August and they couldn't find the remains then, but managed to find them now (especially since I don't think Escondido LE are the ones that found them-The report was that it was the sheriff dept working that area.)

Still love to see a copy of the written report about the notification to LE of the "live" scent at the Pala Library, and why they were there.
 
Ghostwheel said:
If he WAS the tip LE received, they are going to look awfully stupid if he told them that last August and they couldn't find the remains then, but managed to find them now (especially since I don't think Escondido LE are the ones that found them-The report was that it was the sheriff dept working that area.)

Still love to see a copy of the written report about the notification to LE of the "live" scent at the Pala Library, and why they were there.
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The dogs supposedly tracked her to the area of the Pala reservation, not to the specific area where the body was found. If she was so easy to find off this PI's supposed tip, why didn't he find the body himself back in August? After all he was hired to look for her.
He might have called the LE with this information (which they already knew), but I sincerely doubt this is the tip that led them to the body. They found the body quickly so it looks like they knew exactly where too look. How would they find the body off the tip that she supposedly was in the library miles away from where the body was found?
 
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