South Africa - Martin, 55, Theresa, 54, Rudi van Breda, 22, murdered, 26 Jan 2015 #1

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mily-s-blood-spattered-neighbour-s-house.html

This article makes absolute nonsense of the above You Tube videos. I don't know what he is hoping to prove with such inaccurate accounts. He seems to be an attention seeker with very dubious motives.

Details of the damage to each of the family are disclosed which states that Marli had 4 axe cuts to the head and one that severed her jugular and split her ear in two. Photos of the injuries were also produced in court.

Apparently HVB showed no emotion on seeing these photographs or on hearing the description of their injuries. He is one very strange young man.
 
Address of van Breda family home is 12 Goske Street so why did Henri give a different address to the telephone operator for the ambulance?

Operator says: "The address is tricky. Henri you gave me a few different addresses. "

Henri says: "10 Allemann Street is just past my house. I can meet them on the road. I'll be out in the street. "

[video=youtube;8bstVQSbpY0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bstVQSbpY0[/video]
 
Interested Bystander said:
I am sure he will try to explain it away. I think he has already said he screamed or shouted at some stage. What will be important is if anyone can confirm what was being shouted/screamed. A neighbour to one side has said he was up at 3am and heard nothing!
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Apologies for quoting my own post but I wanted to add that it was HvB who shouted for help from his father and his mother who screamed "what is going on". I am hoping there are other witnesses, as is suggested by the police, who heard something important but I have a feeling Henri has already attempted to nullify that evidence. He knows he has to explain loud voices if there were any. He also stated that the intruders spoke in Afrikans. We do know that the Breda family spoke English and Afrikans. I think it was Henri who stated that his mother shouted in Afrikans but I stand to be corrected if that is not the case.
 
Estelle said:
Address of van Breda family home is 12 Goske Street so why did Henri give a different address to the telephone operator for the ambulance?

Operator says: "The address is tricky. Henri you gave me a few different addresses. "

Henri says: "10 Allemann Street is just past my house. I can meet them on the road. I'll be out in the street. "

[video=youtube;8bstVQSbpY0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bstVQSbpY0[/video]
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My guess would be he gave the wrong address on account of being a lying, murdering piece of excrement. Allegedly.


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Estelle said:
[video=youtube;G5WfdMNB20M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5WfdMNB20M[/video]
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The audio isn't working for me but I remember someone last year posted a similar video favouring the second scenario, those videos on youtube were removed.

I find it fascinating that this scenario about the sister is the same one put forward in the DeFoe family murders by conspiracy theorists. In 1974, New York, 23 yr old Ronald DeFoe Jnr murdered his parents, 2 brothers and 2 sisters while they slept. His sister, Dawn, was 18 and some folk want to include her in his murderous deeds even though she suffered the same fate as her parents and siblings. :no:

These are lone killers who have a grievance against the parent/s and decide to kill the whole family. It's a drastic solution to probably a fairly minor problem but these 'special' individuals think it's their only option. Why they don't just leave the family and make it on their own is beyond me.
 
Estelle said:
[video=youtube;gB6gO_6_Qa0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB6gO_6_Qa0[/video]
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Prof Saths Cooper analysis about parricide, usually a result of personality issues (disorder?), a super ego and unable to quell their inner rage. The child sees the parent as an extension of themselves and are unwilling to be independent (parasitic lifestyle), jealous of the success of siblings and feeling like a failure.
 
PrimeSuspect said:
The audio isn't working for me but I remember someone last year posted a similar video favouring the second scenario, those videos on youtube were removed.

I find it fascinating that this scenario about the sister is the same one put forward in the DeFoe family murders by conspiracy theorists. In 1974, New York, 23 yr old Ronald DeFoe Jnr murdered his parents, 2 brothers and 2 sisters while they slept. His sister, Dawn, was 18 and some folk want to include her in his murderous deeds even though she suffered the same fate as her parents and siblings. :no:

These are lone killers who have a grievance against the parent/s and decide to kill the whole family. It's a drastic solution to probably a fairly minor problem but these 'special' individuals think it's their only option. Why they don't just leave the family and make it on their own is beyond me.
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It think the video might be of interest if he had not got his facts so wrong. He claims he knows Marli definitely only had one "hit" on her head and claims the photos show that it was impossible for her to have had her jugular severed. He refutes any Photoshopping. Forensic photos show clearly she had four axe cuts to her head and her jugular was severed together with her ear almost split in half. I have to wonder why he persists with patently incorrect information.
 
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PrimeSuspect said:
These are lone killers who have a grievance against the parent/s and decide to kill the whole family. It's a drastic solution to probably a fairly minor problem but these 'special' individuals think it's their only option. Why they don't just leave the family and make it on their own is beyond me.
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I work all night, I work all day, to pay the bills I have to pay
Ain't it sad
And still there never seems to be a single penny left for me
That's too bad
In my dreams I have a plan
If I got me a wealthy man
I wouldn't have to work at all, I'd fool around and have a ball

With compliments to ABBA
 
Interested Bystander said:
It think the video might be of interest if he had not got his facts so wrong. He claims he knows Marli definitely only had one "hit" on her head and claims the photos show that it was impossible for her to have had her jugular severed. He refutes any Photoshopping. Forensic photos show clearly she had four axe cuts to her head and her jugular was severed together with her ear almost split in half. I have to wonder why he persists with patently incorrect information.
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Anyone venture reasons for not 'finishing Mali off'?
 
L2L said:
Anyone venture reasons for not 'finishing Mali off'?
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I have thought about it and can offer a few suggestions, they may all be wrong. He got some sadistic pleasure from hearing Rudi and Marli struggling to survive. He knew the extent of the injuries and with the time delay getting help, he was sure they'd die. He discovered Rudi had died and might have thought Marli had died also. He had a change of heart for Marli?
 
He's probably arrived late because he had to check in at the police station this morning. The court is aware of this.
 
PrimeSuspect said:
I have thought about it and can offer a few suggestions, they may all be wrong. He got some sadistic pleasure from hearing Rudi and Marli struggling to survive. He knew the extent of the injuries and with the time delay getting help, he was sure they'd die. He discovered Rudi had died and might have thought Marli had died also. He had a change of heart for Marli?
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Thanks Prime! I'd gone over those too but can't really make any of them fit the crime!
 
The wheels of justice turn ever so slowly in South Africa.
 
By the time Galloway arrives it will be time for the morning tea adjournment. OISA
 
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