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Interested Bystander said:
"I am open to his being a psychopath and throwing in ASD to the mix stemmed from his being known, all his life it seems, to be a lovely boy but a loner and his sister commenting he was a "dick". Could drugs have caused such an enormous change in his personality, which seemingly only lasted for the one night? I understand psychopaths can be charming but the cracks tend to break open periodically (as in OP's case)".
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He was shrewd enough to become a loner so he could hide his behaviour and put on an act when he was with people but his psychopathy had not probably developed to its full extent by then.

Psychopathy, or sociopathy, is not an official diagnosis. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) refers to the condition as antisocial personality disorder. People with APD, the DSM says, have “abnormal personality functioning” and “pathological personality traits,” such as egocentrism, manipulativeness, and a lack of empathy.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/what-a-psychopath-brain-looks-like-2015-7?r=US&IR=T

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]He had only been home for around a couple of weeks before committing these most awful crimes but I suspect those two weeks were torment for him. I think his parents were high achievers (at least his father was) and expected the same of the children. HvB giving up/being thrown off of his Physics course must have created enormous tensions in the household.
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Egocentrism would make him also prefer to ba a loner and you are right in thinking that that two weeks would hve been "torment" for him being under the microscope of his family again every day asking him questions about why he dropped out of university (he could have been expelled (although I have never heard of anyone being expelled before from a university). Who knows what he did while there? He may have wagged lectures or been reported for his behavior. They might have blamed the drugs. His father told him that his allowance was not going to continue and he had better get a real job and fend for himself which would have upset him. All he wanted to do was a course in scuba diving if I remember correctly.
Brain scans, of course, are only one potential indicator that someone has psychopathic tendencies. Genetics and family history also likely play a role in the development of the disorder..

Interested Bystander said:
Could drugs have caused such an enormous change in his personality, which seemingly only lasted for the one night? I understand psychopaths can be charming but the cracks tend to break open periodically (as in OP's case).
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In drug addicts who are also violent offenders, the combination of week resistance and a strong impulses result in a stronger drive to seek pleasure. Drug addiction can explain the impulsivity, irresponsibility, delinquency, and poor behavioral controls, which are all on Hare’s Psychopathy Checklist. Then, since addiction and psychopathy affect different parts of the brain, they can both be present at the same time and present compound and more severe symptoms, which, when combined, could present as psychopathy when it is really just a tendency for psychopathy and life long drug addiction.

The manifestation of drug addiction with comorbid psychopathic tendencies does not lend itself to a proper diagnosis of psychopathy. Instead, drug addiction should be treated and then the subject should be reevaluated for psychopathy. For sentencing, a criminal exhibiting psychopathic tendencies and drug addiction should be culpable to a similar degree as a drug addict since addiction explains many of the behaviors and has a potential for lower recidivism.

http://www.neulaw.org/blog/1034-class-blog/3757-psychopathic-tendencies-and-addiction
 
Estelle said:
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Here’s a scan of a normal brain (top) and a Psychopath's brain (bottom). Notice that the normal scan shows much more activity (yellow and red) in the lower frontal lobe than Psychopath’s (mostly blue)..

The scans show reduced activity in an area towards the center of the brain called the orbital cortex thought to play a role in regulating our emotions and impulses as well as morality and aggression.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/what-a-psychopath-brain-looks-like-2015-7?r=US&IR=T
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I think all that was found in the scan of HvB's brain was a cyst which was diagnosed as unimportant. I do recall reading some while back the brain cysts can be caused by crystal meths but cannot remember where. There were no other abnormalities so does this rule out psychopathy as noted in your post 780 or was it that Henri never had the type of scan that would show this?

As with most opinions there are always opposing views. I had never heard of youths under 18 not showing sociopathic tendencies.
I think the 18 years is applied because that is when they are declared adult and responsible for their behaviour. I would go so far as to say that it would be very unusual indeed to find somebody diagnosed as a sociopath at 18 had not shown some extremely worrying indications of trouble ahead.

https://www.disabled-world.com/disability/types/psychological/sociopaths.php


"While no person is born with this disorder, sociopathic personality disorder does involve a history of persistent antisocial behavior during childhood prior to the age of 15 and if left untreated, the disorder continues into adulthood."

IIRC the two brothers lived together in Melbourne when HvB started his Physics Degree. Rudi, Martin and Teresa moved back in 2016 but HvB came back for Christmas and the murders were committed 2-3 weeks later.
 
Why would HvB have a brain scan? Was it a CT scan or MRI? If it was just a CT scan, they would not have been looking to see if he had psychopathic tendencies or if drugs had affected his brain. Only an MRI would look at that? IMO HvB must have had some of these symptoms below to go to a doctor in the first place. .

What are the symptoms of an arachnoid cyst?

Arachnoid cysts are usually asymptomatic. That means they don’t tend to produce symptoms. As a result, most people who have an arachnoid cyst don’t realize it until they’re examined for other issues, such as head injuries.

In some cases, arachnoid cysts do cause symptoms. Symptoms depend on the location and size of the cyst. For example, symptoms may develop if you have a cyst that presses on nerves or sensitive areas of your brain or spinal cord. If it’s located in your brain, the cyst may produce one or more of the following symptoms:

headache
dizziness
nausea
vomiting
lethargy
seizures
problems hearing, seeing, or walking
balance issues
developmental delay
dementia
 
Interested Bystander said:
I think all that was found in the scan of HvB's brain was a cyst which was diagnosed as unimportant. I do recall reading some while back the brain cysts can be caused by crystal meths but cannot remember where. There were no other abnormalities so does this rule out psychopathy as noted in your post 780 or was it that Henri never had the type of scan that would show this?

As with most opinions there are always opposing views. I had never heard of youths under 18 not showing sociopathic tendencies.
I think the 18 years is applied because that is when they are declared adult and responsible for their behaviour. I would go so far as to say that it would be very unusual indeed to find somebody diagnosed as a sociopath at 18 had not shown some extremely worrying indications of trouble ahead.

https://www.disabled-world.com/disability/types/psychological/sociopaths.php


"While no person is born with this disorder, sociopathic personality disorder does involve a history of persistent antisocial behavior during childhood prior to the age of 15 and if left untreated, the disorder continues into adulthood."

IIRC the two brothers lived together in Melbourne when HvB started his Physics Degree. Rudi, Martin and Teresa moved back in 2016 but HvB came back for Christmas and the murders were committed 2-3 weeks later.
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I would predict that HvB could have complained about headaches (or had a head injury) so he went to his doctor to find out what was wrong. The doctor then suggested he have a CT scan and they found a cyst. I doubt whether they were looking for anything else.

A brain cyst is a type of abnormal fluid-filled sac in the brain. ... Often, brain cysts begin before birth.

A report by SAMHSA (Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration) lists 30 separate types of brain and neurological damage in babies, all brought about by ingestion of alcohol by pregnant mothers – including seizures, tremors, deficient motor skills, abnormal brain cysts or cavities and mental retardation. Other reports have also shown that psychotropic drug use – antidepressants, Lexapro, Zoloft, Cymbalta, etc. – by pregnant or breastfeeding mothers can produce similar neurological damage, birth defects, premature birth, infant withdrawal symptoms and death.

http://www.stopyouraddiction.com/drugs/how-drugs-can-affect-the-brain/

There are Many Causes for Development of a Brain Cyst

Cysticercosis: Cysts caused due to larvae of the tape worm-taenia solium. Man is infected by eating raw and improperly cooked pork. The larvae released from the egg of tape worm may penetrate in the intestine of the man and enter into the circulation. It may lodge in the brain, muscles in the skin etc. The larva dies in the brain and gets calcified into a cyst. It produces symptoms of headache, epilepsy, behavioral changes.
Diagnosis is made by MRI or CT scan.

Arachnoid Cyst: an arachnoid cyst develops as a developmental defect in the cells of the fetal brain. The subarachnoid space is where the cyst develops in the brain.

Pineal Cysts: they develop on the pineal gland. The exact reason is not known but it is assumed that after puberty the pineal gland become small and can lead to a cyst formation. It usually develops in the womb during the fetal development or after puberty in young adults.

Tumor in the Brain: a tumor in the brain can be a reason for development of a cyst.
Brain injury either due to an accident or after a brain surgery can cause cysts in brain. It usually forms in subarachnoid space and therefore the cyst is referred as secondary arachnoid cyst

http://www.simple-remedies.com/home-remedies/cystitis/causes-of-brain-cyst.html
 
Interested Bystander said:

As with most opinions there are always opposing views. I had never heard of youths under 18 not showing sociopathic tendencies.
I think the 18 years is applied because that is when they are declared adult and responsible for their behaviour. I would go so far as to say that it would be very unusual indeed to find somebody diagnosed as a sociopath at 18 had not shown some extremely worrying indications of trouble ahead.

https://www.disabled-world.com/disab...sociopaths.php


"While no person is born with this disorder, sociopathic personality disorder does involve a history of persistent antisocial behavior during childhood prior to the age of 15 and if left untreated, the disorder continues into adulthood."
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What I said was that before 18yo, it is referred to as Conduct Disorder which is a mental disorder diagnosed in childhood or adolescence that presents itself through a repetitive and persistent pattern of behavior in which the basic rights of others or major age-appropriate norms are violated. These behaviors are often referred to as "antisocial behaviors." It is often seen as the precursor to antisocial personality disorder, which is per definition not diagnosed until the individual is 18 years old. Conduct disorder is estimated to affect 51.1 million people globally as of 2013.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conduct_disorder

Symptoms of conduct disorder vary depending on the age of the child and whether the disorder is mild, moderate, or severe. In general, symptoms of conduct disorder fall into four general categories:

Aggressive behavior: These are behaviors that threaten or cause physical harm and may include fighting, bullying, being cruel to others or animals, using weapons, and forcing another into sexual activity.

Destructive behavior: This involves intentional destruction of property such as arson (deliberate fire-setting) and vandalism (harming another person's property).

Deceitful behavior: This may include repeated lying, shoplifting, or breaking into homes or cars in order to steal.

Violation of rules: This involves going against accepted rules of society or engaging in behavior that is not appropriate for the person's age. These behaviors may include running away, skipping school, playing pranks, or being sexually active at a very young age.

In addition, many children with conduct disorder are irritable, have low self-esteem, and tend to throw frequent temper tantrums. Some may abuse drugs and alcohol.

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/mental-health-conduct-disorder#1-2

Sociopaths could also have been influenced by different environmental factors around the age of 15 that is also one of the main reasons for the disorder in individuals.

Some of the environmental factors may include abandonment, deprivation, sexual abuse, emotional abuse, association with others who are antisocial and physical abuse, among others. While there are no distinct biological causes that have been identified as the main cause of the disorder, research suggests that for people who experience sociopathic personality disorder, the part of the brain that is largely responsible for a person's learning from their own mistakes and responding to sad and fearful facial expressions tends to be smaller than in an average person's. Researchers believe this may be the reason for lack of empathy towards others in sociopaths. There are theories that also indicate that hormonal fluctuations also have a role in the disorder.

https://www.disabled-world.com/disability/types/psychological/sociopaths.php

IMO I would predict that HvB's father was very strict and his mother was possibly lenient, in denial of the ramifications, over-protective or was unable to discipline HvB. I would also predict that his father was away a lot on business. When his father came home, his mother would tell his father about all the bad things that HvB had done while he was away and HvB could have been subjected to verbal threats and physical punishment which were a family secret. HvB may have mixed with the wrong crowd at school and been led astray or led others astray. HvB realised that he could never come up to his parents' expectations of him and hated being compared to Rudi all the time who in their opinion was the perfect child. HvB may have had numerous detentions at school. Rudi might have told his parents about HvB's behaviour that the parents did not know about. HvB could have begun drinking under age and been introduced to drugs while at school and he could have become addicted to them as they medicated his feelings of low self-esteem. He could have been bullied when younger and become a bully himself. We have not heard from past Headmasters, teachers or old school friends to find out the truth about what HvB was really like as a teenager.

I also predict that HvB has a drinking problem. We have little evidence of that but he took from the home after the murders, an expensive bottle of .his father's alcohol. Coming from Cape Town, where they were living in a wine growing area, HvB had probably grown up with access to high quality wines which could have been stored in his father's cellar. I often wondered whether HvB also waited as long as he could to sober up after the murders.

"The relationship between alcoholism or alcohol abuse and sociopathy is more difficult to unravel than most other psychiatric diagnoses. The degree of overlap between the two conditions is remarkable, for many persons diagnosed as sociopaths engage in excessive drinking and many alcohol abusers also exhibit antisocial behavior patterns. The associations between alcohol consumption and aggressive behavior,1–5 criminal activity, 6–9 violent death,10,11 and the family incidence of sociopathy12–14 have been studied widely"

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4684-4028-7_10
 
JudgeJudi said:
You'll recall that Marli's ex-boyfriend, James Reade-Jahn, was shown the actual axe that was used. He said it looked very similar to the one he had seen but the one he remembers was black. Judge Desai asked whether there were in fact two axes.

Perhaps James viewed the axe in natural light only inside the garage and the courtroom was much brighter. These two photos provide a good illustration. The axes are in fact the same as can be seen by the pink circular label on the blade.

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[URL]https://www.iol.co.za/capeargus/news/vanbredatrial-ballistics-expert-grilled-by-defence-9772317?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter[/URL]
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There you go, it's obvious the lighting or lack of, can deceive the eye and Botha accused Appollis of lying?! He and his client are the liars!
Botha is expecting J Desai to believe a teen visitor who 'thinks' the axehead in the scullery was black when Precious said the axe displayed in court is similar or the same as the one in the scullery!!!
Botha desperately needs a second axe taken away by the intruders, there's nothing indicating anything of the sort!!! I hope J Desai gives particular attention to this claim by Botha in his summing up!
 
Not to mention the fact that James was well aware of the existence of an axe, and he was only a visitor, yet Henri had lived there for months and didn't know of its existence. Sure, sure. He's such a liar.
 
Thank you Estelle for those most informative articles and all your comments. They're much appreciated.
 
I think Henri had only been back in SA for 2-3 weeks before the murders but, nonetheless, I am sure he would have known about the axe.
 
Estelle said:
What I said was that before 18yo, it is referred to as Conduct Disorder which is a mental disorder diagnosed in childhood or adolescence that presents itself through a repetitive and persistent pattern of behavior in which the basic rights of others or major age-appropriate norms are violated. These behaviors are often referred to as "antisocial behaviors." It is often seen as the precursor to antisocial personality disorder, which is per definition not diagnosed until the individual is 18 years old. Conduct disorder is estimated to affect 51.1 million people globally as of 2013.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conduct_disorder

Symptoms of conduct disorder vary depending on the age of the child and whether the disorder is mild, moderate, or severe. In general, symptoms of conduct disorder fall into four general categories:

Aggressive behavior: These are behaviors that threaten or cause physical harm and may include fighting, bullying, being cruel to others or animals, using weapons, and forcing another into sexual activity.

Destructive behavior: This involves intentional destruction of property such as arson (deliberate fire-setting) and vandalism (harming another person's property).

Deceitful behavior: This may include repeated lying, shoplifting, or breaking into homes or cars in order to steal.

Violation of rules: This involves going against accepted rules of society or engaging in behavior that is not appropriate for the person's age. These behaviors may include running away, skipping school, playing pranks, or being sexually active at a very young age.

In addition, many children with conduct disorder are irritable, have low self-esteem, and tend to throw frequent temper tantrums. Some may abuse drugs and alcohol.

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/mental-health-conduct-disorder#1-2

Sociopaths could also have been influenced by different environmental factors around the age of 15 that is also one of the main reasons for the disorder in individuals.

Some of the environmental factors may include abandonment, deprivation, sexual abuse, emotional abuse, association with others who are antisocial and physical abuse, among others. While there are no distinct biological causes that have been identified as the main cause of the disorder, research suggests that for people who experience sociopathic personality disorder, the part of the brain that is largely responsible for a person's learning from their own mistakes and responding to sad and fearful facial expressions tends to be smaller than in an average person's. Researchers believe this may be the reason for lack of empathy towards others in sociopaths. There are theories that also indicate that hormonal fluctuations also have a role in the disorder.

https://www.disabled-world.com/disability/types/psychological/sociopaths.php

IMO I would predict that HvB's father was very strict and his mother was possibly lenient, in denial of the ramifications, over-protective or was unable to discipline HvB. I would also predict that his father was away a lot on business. When his father came home, his mother would tell his father about all the bad things that HvB had done while he was away and HvB could have been subjected to verbal threats and physical punishment which were a family secret. HvB may have mixed with the wrong crowd at school and been led astray or led others astray. HvB realised that he could never come up to his parents' expectations of him and hated being compared to Rudi all the time who in their opinion was the perfect child. HvB may have had numerous detentions at school. Rudi might have told his parents about HvB's behaviour that the parents did not know about. HvB could have begun drinking under age and been introduced to drugs while at school and he could have become addicted to them as they medicated his feelings of low self-esteem. He could have been bullied when younger and become a bully himself. We have not heard from past Headmasters, teachers or old school friends to find out the truth about what HvB was really like as a teenager.

I also predict that HvB has a drinking problem. We have little evidence of that but he took from the home after the murders, an expensive bottle of .his father's alcohol. Coming from Cape Town, where they were living in a wine growing area, HvB had probably grown up with access to high quality wines which could have been stored in his father's cellar. I often wondered whether HvB also waited as long as he could to sober up after the murders.

"The relationship between alcoholism or alcohol abuse and sociopathy is more difficult to unravel than most other psychiatric diagnoses. The degree of overlap between the two conditions is remarkable, for many persons diagnosed as sociopaths engage in excessive drinking and many alcohol abusers also exhibit antisocial behavior patterns. The associations between alcohol consumption and aggressive behavior,1–5 criminal activity, 6–9 violent death,10,11 and the family incidence of sociopathy12–14 have been studied widely"

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4684-4028-7_10
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Thank you for your posts on mental health. They are always edifying.

I think the only problem we have heard of and that was only in a press report from an investigative reporter who was seeking the reason by HvB quit University is that he had heard HvB left University due to behavioural problems. I think most of us feel he was well into drugs, including crystal meths, and that most likely was the cause. However, there is nothing further in print that I can find.

On another point, as you say, children are never diagnosed as sociopathic until their teens. The DSM forbids this. This is probably due to the fact that it has always been hoped that "treatment" of children with obvious behavioural problems may avert them being labelled for life where there is some hope of preventing them becoming socio/psychopaths.

The hardest part for me with HvB is that it seems he seems to have had no indications of behavioural problems and had a retiring personality. Usually, psychopaths seemingly need to lead a risky lifestyle. OP being a good example of this. As far as we know he showed no signs during his formative years of worrying behavioural problems. On the other hand, have his parents/family been trying to "keep quiet" about the state of his mental health? He is known to suffer badly at times from stuttering (one reason why I don't think he will take the stand) that can sometimes indicate mental illness.

The following was an interesting look at mental health:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...d-injuries-common-murderers-study-claims.html

There seems to be such confusing and diverse opinion of ASD and Sociopathy. I don’t know a great deal about ASD (or sociopathy for that matter) and much of it learned from my daughter’s experience but I accept she will be dealing with only the worst cases who are desperate for help and information. She mainly deals with the parenting problems and is not medical doctor but rather her PhD was on chromosomal abnormalities and results thereof. She only gets to hear of the worst problems, including where the child has had to be removed from the family in order to avoid serious injury to their carers.

I don’t feel it is a normal trait for ASD sufferers to be murderers and the percentage who go on to murder is infinitesimal compared to accepted psychopathic mental illness and I have no idea whether HvB could be labelled ASD but felt he was/is an atypical psychopath.

In the UK students can be thrown out of university for drug taking but I think everything is done to help them before resulting to the ultimate threat. The following is a recent article on the subject. I have no idea whether this can happen in Australia.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/80...dent-Lavinia-Woodward-jail-expulsion-stabbing
 
Botha wants a second axe because this wasn't a burglary and the fictitious slayer/s arrived without bringing a weapon. Hahaha.

Henri has one further problem, no one was disturbed by the intruders, no one in the family went to investigate a noise downstairs, so that further endorses the conclusion that this was nothing but an intentional mass murder. Rudi was the first to be attacked. Correct me if I'm wrong but my memory of the state's evidence about his injuries is that he was not expecting the first blow that struck him and was lying down, and the defence did nothing to argue that. He couldn't have witnessed anyone else being murdered, so it's not as if they will allege the intruder killed him because he was a witness to anything.

Now are the defence going to argue that Marli was the first victim because she got up to investigate a noise, and Henri didn't hear because he either had his earphones in playing a game, or was in the bathroom? If that is going to be their scenario I don't see the court buying it, but equally there is a problem in Henri's version about when Marli could otherwise have been attacked. He heard Teresa's voice and it's unlikely that he wouldn't have heard Marli, because she would have screamed in coming across her mother being attacked. Also I think she was lying on top of Teresa, and if Marli had been attacked first Teresa would have landed on top of Marli. Additionally there is no time given for how long Henri was standing in the bedroom but it casts even more doubt on his story that he stood doing nothing, like phoning for help or locking himself in the bathroom, or running onto the balcony and shouting for help or even climbing over and jumping down, in the time that it took the intruder to attack Marli and Teresa. And if there was a second intruder, who could have attacked Marli, why did the bedroom intruder even need to leave the bedroom to deal with Teresa, assuming they will say Marli was the first to be attacked, without first dealing with Henri the screaming witness in the bathroom? If bedroom intruder had left to kill Teresa and Marli, why didn't he call his mate for back up to deal with Henri. It's a complete joke.

If Marli had been attacked first, would Martin have walked straight past her and the second slayer, ignoring her injuries, not being attacked, not shouting to Teresa to stay where she was, lock herself in a bathroom and phone for help, leaving Teresa to follow him into danger while he just walked into the bedroom and thought about putting on the light where Rudi was being attacked?

Why would Teresa also have approached asking what was going on if she could also see Marli and a second slayer? Teresa had injuries from falling I believe, so she wasn't bending down to attend to an injured Marli. No way would she have walked towards an axeman in a balaclava, her phone was in her bedroom and I'm certain her first thought would have been to phone for help in that situation and not ask what was going on. That's what a mother says to her child, you don't walk up to an axeman and say what's going on here? She would have been able to see in the ambient light, people don't blindly walk along in their own houses in the pitch black, they know where the light switches are, and her bold actions and words are enough to convince a court, I feel, that she thought this was a family situation she had to get involved in.

Also the light on in the parents' bedroom says to me that the parents were awoken and one of them had time to put on the light, I doubt it was Martin if he was headed out of the room, or Teresa if she also immediately headed out of the room, so I suspect both parents awoke to Henri's deliberate shouting, Martin headed out right away, Teresa put on the light, and then followed within seconds when she was alarmed by what she could hear. But not thinking this was a stranger attack, because she left her phone behind and I think one of her first thoughts if she thought it was an intruder and they were in danger of death would have been to call for help. She had put the emergency numbers up for the family to use and that was how she thought.

Sorry it's a bit wordy.
 
Tortoise, I think you would be very useful to the PT in SA. There seem to be a number of points that have not been brought up or glossed over. Maybe they are confident their case is watertight. I hope they are right. We do not need another OP catastrophe.:D

It will be interesting to hear their closing statements.
 
Interested Bystander said:
Tortoise, I think you would be very useful to the PT in SA. There seem to be a number of points that have not been brought up or glossed over. Maybe they are confident their case is watertight. I hope they are right. We do not need another OP catastrophe.:D

It will be interesting to hear their closing statements.
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I'm much more confident about the blood in the shower since WO Nel testified. There are two tests for the defence to overcome, the H stick changing colour as well as it yielding dna results. One could be a false positive but the court will struggle to stretch that to two, IMO.

And isn't it strange that he got their blood on his shorts, but I don't recall it being found on his top half? His chest was clean of spatter in that photo in the ambulance.

It's also confusing that they mention long pants now, but I only remember Otto reporting on 90+ blood stains on the shorts.
 
Hi Everybody :wave: May it be a successful day today in court! Enjoy

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