stmarysmead
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Just a few observations about some of the opinions in Dr. Phail's posts.
As a "sleuth-er", I would of course, be interested in why Sean Mulveyhill decided to participate in bullying Phoebe. I'm also curious as to why Casey Anthony allegedly killed her child, why Timothy McVeigh blew up the that building in Oklahoma City. There might be some societal value in understanding the mindset that enables such cruelty...so hearing "excuses" has some larger value.
However, as a juror, I would have little interest in motivations. IMO, although many criminals do whatever feels right to them, hoping NOT to be held accountable...if it is not "right" in the laws of our society, that's the bottom line to me. They CHOOSE to do the crime, they then must do the TIME.
That's the deterrent of our criminal justice system. Sure, you can CHOOSE to make this girl's life a living Hell for months...but if your actions have consequences...YOU must "pay' them.
Likewise,it matters not to me if these people have other redeeming qualities. Most people do. That does not mitigate the side of your pysche that indulged this behavior toward another human being.
And, I am "impressed" with the charge sheet. Taken one by one, the few actions listed may not seem "impressive."...but this was a group effort, undertaken over a three month period. Single actions in a reign of terror may be singled out to appear trivial. But they did NOT occur...in singularity. They occurred as part of a monstrous WHOLE. All the participant's in Phoebe's mental torture knew THEIR efforts would be compounded by the efforts of others...their cruelty amplified by help from their friends.
So they must pay for the totality of the effort they engaged in. I might say I only swung the bat once into a victim...but if I'm swinging that bat with others armed with bats, with similar intentions...I OWN the totality of the "kill."
My opinion only, of course.
As a "sleuth-er", I would of course, be interested in why Sean Mulveyhill decided to participate in bullying Phoebe. I'm also curious as to why Casey Anthony allegedly killed her child, why Timothy McVeigh blew up the that building in Oklahoma City. There might be some societal value in understanding the mindset that enables such cruelty...so hearing "excuses" has some larger value.
However, as a juror, I would have little interest in motivations. IMO, although many criminals do whatever feels right to them, hoping NOT to be held accountable...if it is not "right" in the laws of our society, that's the bottom line to me. They CHOOSE to do the crime, they then must do the TIME.
That's the deterrent of our criminal justice system. Sure, you can CHOOSE to make this girl's life a living Hell for months...but if your actions have consequences...YOU must "pay' them.
Likewise,it matters not to me if these people have other redeeming qualities. Most people do. That does not mitigate the side of your pysche that indulged this behavior toward another human being.
And, I am "impressed" with the charge sheet. Taken one by one, the few actions listed may not seem "impressive."...but this was a group effort, undertaken over a three month period. Single actions in a reign of terror may be singled out to appear trivial. But they did NOT occur...in singularity. They occurred as part of a monstrous WHOLE. All the participant's in Phoebe's mental torture knew THEIR efforts would be compounded by the efforts of others...their cruelty amplified by help from their friends.
So they must pay for the totality of the effort they engaged in. I might say I only swung the bat once into a victim...but if I'm swinging that bat with others armed with bats, with similar intentions...I OWN the totality of the "kill."
My opinion only, of course.