State rests rebuttal case- thread #165

[Alexander family fan]

Dirty little secret he introduced to his friends and took on trips!! And was seen being affectionate with!

Also, if he wanted to keep her his little sex on the side secret, WHY would he have brought her to church and tried to get her to convert to a very conservative religion? Makes no sense, he would have just met up with her for sex from time to time. That is the thing Jodi does not get, he did like her at first, or at least he wanted to......it was over time when he got to know her ( which was slower, as they were in different states for the entire five months of their relationship )....over time he realized she is not someone he likes, trusts or respects. Therefore, no matter how good the sex was, she was never going to be the girl he wanted to marry and raise children with. All of his friends say this......in the beginning he thought she was so pretty and soooo nice and he found out boy oh boy was he wrong. He stuck around because he was enjoying the sex like a kid in a candy store, because his other gals were traditional Mormon girls. He did not meet Jodi and treat her like a *advertiser censored*, she treated herself like a *advertiser censored* and we do teach people how to treat us. Sky Hughes summed it up perfectly, "She wanted Travis. She tried becoming Mormon for him. When that did not work, she used the sex."

The basic message the defense is trying to send to the jury is Travis had it coming, because he used Jodi . That will NEVER fly. She is going down. I am sure of it. Can you imagine the message it would send to let her get away with this slaughter because she was angry?

 

[Rocco]

I don't see how a Psychologist (neuropsychologist or not) would be qualified as an expert on brain trauma over an MD who is a pathologist. I cannot fathom it being allowed. Even if it is allowed, I can't imagine his testimony being given more weight than the ME who has performed more than 6,000 post-mortems.

I do see how it could possibly be allowed. Since he's not an MD, he's not qualified to testify about the autopsy or anything to do with the injuries. Besides, he's not there to testify about TA, he's there to testify about Jodi.

 

[gauntlet]

Dr Horn didn't say anything new did he? Perhaps he explained things a bit clearer??

 

[usnuzuloose]

I could only imagine the questions from the jury to Mr. Geffner. How embarrassing that would be. This jury is really smart.

 

[The Village Idiot]

For anyone that is interested, Here is an Article done by MARK EIGLARSH (Lawyer) entitled: WHEN CLIENTS LIE...WHAT YOU MUST DO.

http://www.eiglarshlaw.com/lawyer-attorney-1113213.html


Just thought I would post, hope not a Repeat but with so many threads/members - bound to get some repeat of things. MOO

 

[indycornstalk]

After finally getting to watch Mimi Hall's testimony, along with Lisa Diadone's and then of course Deanna Reed's I am CONVINCED that Travis and JA did NOT have all the sex she claims they did, I also do NOT believe for ONE second that Travis had all those make believe fantasies she invented on the stand either. I think they are a figment of her imagination or they are the REAL fantasies of Arias herself and NOT Travis. From the testimony of others and the timeline, Arias and Travis were ONLY dating for a short period of time, the rest of friends with benefits.

 

[EquallyDivided]

Heh. Those are probably the same folks that say the "Thames" river to rhyme with "James", and think that the "Tems" is a totally different river! :facepalm:

Regional pronunciations are sometimes tricky, but one can learn them, especially world-famous ones.

One of my favorite lesser-known ones is Natchitoches, Louisiana, which is pronounced "Knack-a-desh"! :facepalm:

This is always my downfall. I have always read like a crazy woman, constantly! Most of my introductions to places and big words were by reading them. Once you read it that way a dozen times, it's hard to change your brain. My hard ones to remeber are;

Chasm
Plethora
Celtic (which I've heard pronounced both ways)
Marcionism

 

[dani]

Katie on Dr. Drew's jury said last evening she was working with the State Legislators to get a bill that would not allow testimony about a victim to be presented without evidence to back it up. (I think that was the gist of it)...all this 'evidence' that has come out of ja's mouth is stated as 'evidence' with nothing to back it up.

I hope it will be successful and that they name it "The Travis Alexander Bill" to memorialize this beautiful human being. :seeya:

 

[Mare10]

I think Geffner has been helping behind the scenes. JW when questioning Dr Horn was pretty sure of herself when discussing the brain injury.

This should not be allowed, JSS will be making a big mistake. Is there any other case that we can refer to that this has been done. Surrebuttle - get a do over with a new expert and use an expert that is a jack of many trades. BFF's with thier first witness who bombed and has IMO been pulling strings??? Is there any precedent for this? I am very upset becuase again our leagal system in the country has gone to the absurd. I think JM will do a good job but man oh man was he sucker punched.

I hope JM mops the floor with the lot of them.

 

[EquallyDivided]

Far as I know, in most parts of Canada we say gren-itch.

Another possible reason for Jodi's (mis)pronunciation is that she's an autodidact. A person can be well-read, and articulate, but with little formal education or direct learning from a teacher, proper pronunciation can suffer. Just a thought.

I completely agree with you.

 

[dani]

I could only imagine the questions from the jury to Mr. Geffner. How embarrassing that would be. This jury is really smart.

Actually, I am hoping there are NO JUROR QUESTIONS, thus indicating a juror protest to the DT…YOU WASTED OUR TIME!:twocents:

 

[The Village Idiot]

Some questions here:

So did anything come out of Aylce (eg. Impeachment). Any updates on her?
http://tamaratattles.com/2013/04/12/will-alyce-laviolette-be-impeached-as-an-expert-witness/

Why, does any one know why DB did not want his face to be shown? Reasons stated anywhere? Any talk about that?

Thanks

 

[Phoebeb]

Just watching the youtube video of first day of JM's cross of JA... because I'm hooked...
Within the first 2 minutes he asks her "Did I ASK you whether or not you called her "stupid" ma'am?" (talking about her "dumb sister", JA smirks back "I called her dumb AND stupid") :floorlaugh:
I just love Juan.
Okay, carry on. :blushing:

 

[Emmi]

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh: @ HLN & their nightly SCREAM FESTS, so true. You're welcome, no ear plugs required.

Interesting. The post kaydono responded to here has disappeared. A technical glitch?

 

[Mrs G Norris]

After finally getting to watch Mimi Hall's testimony, along with Lisa Diadone's and then of course Deanna Reed's I am CONVINCED that Travis and JA did NOT have all the sex she claims they did, I also do NOT believe for ONE second that Travis had all those make believe fantasies she invented on the stand either. I think they are a figment of her imagination or they are the REAL fantasies of Arias herself and NOT Travis. From the testimony of others and the timeline, Arias and Travis were ONLY dating for a short period of time, the rest of friends with benefits.

He gave it away in that text where he said paraphrasing: Why don't you go *advertiser censored** him in the woods. It was her fantasy. Mind you he clearly loved it, he probably enjoyed all her input in that department. But yes she was the one bringing the ideas to the table. Travis doesn't have to be a saint. I think he loved sex and loved it with her.

 

[ljwf22]

Who is the lady that is interviewing him?

Allison Hope Weiner. Her voice reminds me of Janice on Friends. (The character Chandler Bing's ex-girlfriend)

 

[SCSam]

May have been posted but new article by Kristen Randall:
http://kristinarandle.com/blog/what-people-said-about-jodi-after-the-killing/

 

[MeeBee]

Well, I don't think the judge not allowing this is an appealable issue because there is still a thing called the law and she still has to stick to it. The rules of surrebuttal are very clear and the DT had two cross exams of Dr. Horn and jury follow up opportunities as well. They also had a CIC in which they chose not to utilize a medical expert to refute Dr. Horn's claims, which did not change in rebuttal.

What really bothers me is that if the judge allows this that she is setting a precedent. We know the DT doesn't want this to end. So if she keeps allowing erroneous things like this then they are going to keep trying to add more witnesses and more testimony. The judge can still say enough is enough, and that i NOT an appealable issue. They had a CIC in which the judge was quite lenient. She didn't rush them. She didn't limit them. They had many opportunities. It's almost like they were watching HLN one night and was like "Oh yeah! They have surrebuttals!" The jury needs to get this case before more of them drop out. This has already been a tremendous waste of taxpayer money.

 

[ShadyLady]

Yeah, from what I have been reading this guy will be even easier to discredit than the other two experts, especially when it's mentioned that he's friends with Laviolette (huh, wonder how the DT heard about him...:facepalm.

And the jury will be soooo mad. What a sham. I think the DT is crazy for wanting this but hey, let them hang themselves, I guess. I don't think the jury trusts them anymore anyway.

I wonder if samuels and Alyce are "friends"??

 

[The Village Idiot]

I hope it will be successful and that they name it "The Travis Alexander Bill" to memorialize this beautiful human being. :seeya:

Yes, so JA could say anything about TA without anything backing it up.....and he is NOT here to say differently. TO me, IMHO.....that is not much different than "Hearsay"

That is Horse-pucky !!!!! OR Bull-pucky !!!

That kind of stuff in Court, should not be allowed, IMHO!!