Terri Horman, Getting Death Threats, Lawyer Says

[Trident]

Gather ye pitchforks where ye may,
light your torch in the fire
drag the creature from
out of her lair
I've heard there's
murder for hire

If she doesn't disolve in the daylight
we'll hold her 'till light of the moon
then we'll smear her blood
on the mold grown ground
while we dance to a piper's tune.
We'll dance to a piper's tune.

 

[TGIRecovered]

Is it possible, gasp, LE isn't taking death threats to TH seriously? Maybe I misunderstood?

This police department has already demonstrated good responsibility by notifying Kaine of the threat to his life, and I am sure that they would not put themselves in a position to be responsible for any assault on Terri by neglecting to protect her, if a threat exists.

Terri has shown that she won't hesitate to call 911 immediately if she feels threatened in any way. If these threats are real, there should be a record of the call coming in at a certain time and a call to the police to report it.

 

[KeyboardCat]

I know my point of view is skewed. Rather than being outraged at the thought of violence threatened to anyone, my first thought is that she isn't nearly as hated by the masses as her attorney is implying.

I know it probably seems like she is constantly accused on the internet, but those voices are probably an extreme minority of people who feel outraged enough to write about it.

In my opinion, most of the people who saw media coverage of Kyron assume this was an act of some random child predator and 'they'll find his body in a few months.' And that is the conclusion of every person I have talked to about this in person. Maybe its because I live far away from Oregon, I don't know. It was like people heard the story, came to this conclusion and never thought about it again.

I was far more outraged by that than I am by "death threats" directed at Terri Horman.

Call me crazy!

 

[BeanE]

I believe I saw that TH's lawyer refers to the "death threats" posted here as actually receiving "threats of harm"...not saying one is worse than the other but...just saying.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/38275225#38275486

I'm not sure what your winky face means...

Anyway, I'm trying to find some statutes on death threats. Note that it's not just threat of death, but threat of bodily harm.

Here's one:

(c) Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to kidnap any person or any threat to injure the person of another, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000875----000-.html

 

[Trident]

IMO, everyone in the news (criminals, movie stars etc) probably gets threats like this.
It is wrong, but I have heard all high profile cases get these threats.
IF TH would talk, grieve or show some trait of human emotion,
it would go easier on her.
Some people cannot hold back their anger and show it through this type of threats.
TH probably be safer in jail.
Talk Terri TALK!!!
JMOO

BBM If they can't hold back their anger, maybe they should be in jail for their threats?

 

[human]

I would find it hard to change my number if my 7yo was missing, as Kyron is likely to have it memorized. If the phone is in KH's name, I find it hard to believe he would consent to changing the numbers.

They should never have released it in the first place, IMO.


ETA: They shouldn't have released it for safety reasons, but, though that is a major reason, also now that it's out there, how can they be sure if any calls to the home claiming to have Kyron, etc, are legit? It should have remained secret.

the Wetterlings whose son Jacob was kidnapped 20 some years ago have kept the same home and number for the day that he comes back.

They received prank calls as well, so claiming to be Jacob.

 

[miabellamoure]

I know my point of view is skewed. Rather than being outraged at the thought of violence threatened to anyone, my first thought is that she isn't nearly as hated by the masses as her attorney is implying.

I know it probably seems like she is constantly accused on the internet, but those voices are probably an extreme minority of people who feel outraged enough to write about it.

In my opinion, most of the people who saw media coverage of Kyron assume this was an act of some random child predator and 'they'll find his body in a few months.' And that is the conclusion of every person I have talked to about this in person. Maybe its because I live far away from Oregon, I don't know. It was like people heard the story, came to this conclusion and never thought about it again.

I was far more outraged by that than I am by "death threats" directed at Terri Horman.

Call me crazy!

CRAZY! lol...just kidding!

I think you're spot on about the gravity of the allegations...

 

[BeanE]

Making threats of death or bodily harm is a crime. It's never okay.

 

[KeyboardCat]

CRAZY! lol...just kidding!

I think you're spot on about the gravity of the allegations...

:blowkiss:

 

[WhyaDuck?]

the Wetterlings whose son Jacob was kidnapped 20 some years ago have kept the same home and number for the day that he comes back.

They received prank calls as well, so claiming to be Jacob.

Yes, I had that case in mind. I just don't know how, as a parent, you'd be able to risk having your child get a "this number is no longer in service." You just never know as long as the child is still unaccounted for.

 

[evelyn24]

IMO, everyone in the news (criminals, movie stars etc) probably gets threats like this.
It is wrong, but I have heard all high profile cases get these threats.
IF TH would talk, grieve or show some trait of human emotion,
it would go easier on her.
Some people cannot hold back their anger and show it through this type of threats.
TH probably be safer in jail.
Talk Terri TALK!!!
JMOO

You're right, it's standard nonsense that goes on in a case like this.

 

[miabellamoure]

I'm not sure what your winky face means...

Anyway, I'm trying to find some statutes on death threats. Note that it's not just threat of death, but threat of bodily harm.

Here's one:

(c) Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to kidnap any person or any threat to injure the person of another, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000875----000-.html

uh, it's a wink-wink...like maybe Houze is inflating what TH alleges she received because in the link I provided it does not mention the word "death"...that's all. I also think the title of this thread should be corrected, too.

 

[watchful_eye]

Quote:
Originally Posted by watchful_eye
Yes, yes, obviously, those threats are highly innapropriate and DO NOT HELP anyone, anything. But, if they help get her out of the house because her safety might be at stake, then I guess they served some purpose?

Right now, Kaine feels Terri is a threat to himself and the baby. He has made this clear in court, and the court has agreed with him. They should have rights to the home due to the baby's familiarity/need for it. Terri needs to be placed elsewhere at this point.

If LE and Kaine have reason to believe the landscaper's story of how Terri wanted to kill Kaine, then frankly, she is capable of hurting anyone, other than just Kaine.

Terri's credibility went out the window when the landscaper blew the whistle.


BBM I'm not sure the means of threatening, which is a criminal offense, justify the means - having Terri move out - justify the ends. Can anything good come from a criminal act?

Let me clarify something: Do I condone death threats? NO. Do I feel in this case, something convenient may come out of it? POSSIBLY, by a coincidence. I believe I was being somewhat of a smartbutt when saying "they served their purpose". I'll try and leave my smartbutting at home to avoid confusion...

evelyn24 said it best:

Being apathetic about it and endorsing it are two different things.

I'm sorry I can't feel bad for this woman and her three death threats, but I don't condone it.

 

[BeanE]

You're right, it's standard nonsense that goes on in a case like this.

It's a crime.

 

[BeanE]

uh, it's a wink-wink...like maybe Houze is inflating what TH alleges she received because in the link I provided it does not mention the word "death"...that's all. I also think the title of this thread should be corrected, too.

Threats of bodily harm is a crime.

 

[wondering1]

I'm not sure what your winky face means...

Anyway, I'm trying to find some statutes on death threats. Note that it's not just threat of death, but threat of bodily harm.

Here's one:

(c) Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to kidnap any person or any threat to injure the person of another, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000875----000-.html

a threat of bodily harm that creates apprehension in the person threatened of imminent harm is always assualt. Of course, the apprehension has to be reasonable. So an anonymous comment by someone on the internet saying "I'd love to kill that b*otch myself" would not be an assualt.

 

[miabellamoure]

I'm not sure anyone is doubting that a threat is a crime, be it one of death or harm.

 

[BeanE]

a threat of bodily harm that creates apprehension in the person threatened of imminent harm is always assualt. Of course, the apprehension has to be reasonable. So an anonymous comment by someone on the internet saying "I'd love to kill that b*otch myself" would probably not be an assualt.

Actually, it would probably would. Read the statute I quoted.

 

[tk71texas]

that's some "new" change that FB did recently. many are finding their phone numbers on there and they didn't put them public. apparently they used it when opening their fb profile. if you have a profile filled out and go to account then edit...it will show everyone's there. i don't ever put my number besides i believe it says mobile phone number and i don't have one

mine added when i downloaded the FB app on my blackberry

 

[Sherbie]

I apologize if my opinions offended anyone, and will keep them to myself in the future.

Sincerely, very sorry.

ETA: No offence to anyone or TH was intended.

You've got nothing to apologize for, Ducky. :hug: