Especially after examining the circumstantial evidence and the lack of idi evidence. Well and the ransom note, and the pineapple in JonBenets stomach, oh and one more, the prior vaginal trauma.
Yeah, if they didn't before, they will then!
Especially after examining the circumstantial evidence and the lack of idi evidence. Well and the ransom note, and the pineapple in JonBenets stomach, oh and one more, the prior vaginal trauma.
Everyone's interpretation 0f the evidence is different. I personally dont think the shoes or the flash light are significant..whether an intruder did it or the R's did it. By the way, i dont KNOW who did it; Im not for the labels...but how about IIAT..Interested in all theories.
I guess we'll have to ask Werner Spitz.
You mean a semi-auto pistol. Yes, most do have magazines loaded into the butt. That's what the handle is called.
I always understood that she did have an opposing brain injury. The autopsy report describes bruising on the opposite side of her brain/
It gets little credibility because it deserves little credibility. Before you get huffy, allow me to explain. Just how much do you know about guns, Murri? If you're from Australia, like you say, that's a country that doesn't have much gun ownership, and what ownership there is is highly restricted. Is that right?
My family are gun enthusiasts. I have several, including an old Colt .45 auto that my grandfather brought back from World War 2. And as the old saying goes, they don't make 'em like that anymore. It's true: modern handguns, especially autoloaders like you describe, aren't made from US steel anymore; rather, they combine case-hardened steel, stamped sheet-metal and plastic. Anyone with even a rudimentary knowledge of modern firearms would KNOW that you'd have to be a damn fool to hit someone in the head with it, because striking someone with it--in the US, we call that "pistol-whipping"--runs the risk of damaging the weapon, to say nothing of your hand.
Moreover, the mark on JB's neck being a gun muzzle mark seems unlikely. I've seen a LOT of auto pistols in my day, and the only one that even SLIGHTLY resembles that shape is the Desert Eagle, made by Israeli Military Industries. And while it's possible that the Desert Eagle could survive being used as a club due to its heavyweight construction, that same heavy weight is a problem. A Desert Eagle is a big, heavy brick of a gun, and takes a fair amount of skill just to carry it on one's person, much less use it.
I hope this is helpful.
Interesting...the flashlight was found wiped down of prints, including having been opened up and the batteries also wiped down. No one needed to do that to the "family flashlight" unless it is somehow incriminating. It also could possible be the bludgeon- it is the correct size and weight to have caused such an injury. Yet, you don't feel it is significant. IDI probably wouldn't, simply because it DOES point to it's involvement. It may not have been the weapon, but neighbors reported "moving lights" in the kitchen area (where it was found) and it could have been used to walk around the dark basement.
However I do agree that the shoeprint may not be significant. Plenty of workmen wear those shoes, as do many LE. Plus, there were men in that room taking out the Christmas decorations. (LHP's husband and son -or was is son-in-law?) I don't necessarily think it is part of the crime. Possibly, but not definitely.
Circumstantial evidence - much of it unsourced/unconfirmed.
Ransom note - no evidence of who wrote it.
Pineapple - no evidence of how/when/who she was fed/ate it
Prior vaginal trauma - no evidence this occurred before the night of her death.
Lack of IDI evidence - articles used to commit the crime not sourced to the Rs, not found in the house therefore removed by unknown person; matching DNA of unidentified male found in three places on the childs clothing; RN written by unidentified person; fibers not matched to anything in the house.
That'll do for a start.
You wacky American folks and your guns!
We Australian's use sticks and boomerangs!
Well, the topic of this thread hasn't been discussed since page 2, so I thought we might try to shake off this attack of the sillies and get back on topic.
This picture has had the contrast and hue (colour) changed. Green cancels out red in skin colour, so you can now clearly see the shape of the centre of the abrasion. The edges are very well defined and the piece on the top not so well. This shape is exactly the same as would be caused by having the muzzle of a hand gun pressed hard against the skin.
Snort!You wacky American folks and your guns!
We Australian's use sticks and boomerangs!
Please show me ONE photo of a ligature strangulation mark which looks like a cone shape like the one on JB. I've been looking at a lot of photos and I'm just not finding any. Thanks!(snip)
MurriFlower,
Add to that the fact that this type of mark/pattern can be found in numerous other photos of strangulation victims and I tend to think it was caused by the ligature. This was why I thought there must be an anatomical reason for it that I had to investigate (my not having much of a medical background).
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I'm not a doctor, but I am a mom who has treated many a skinned knee...and a childhood tomboy who lived my wonder years with huge bandaids on each knee, so I can say from that angle of experience that abrasions break the skin, which in turn causes oozing, which in turn will dry. This oozing and drying is what later becomes a scab.http://hosted.ap.org/specials/interactives/_national/jonbenet_ramsey/jonbenet_ramsey_autopsy.pdf
"A prominent dried abrasion was present on the lower left neck."
How would the ligature and bleeding underneath cause the surface of the skin to erode and have a "dried" surface?
Please show me ONE photo of a ligature strangulation mark which looks like a cone shape like the one on JB. I've been looking at a lot of photos and I'm just not finding any. Thanks!
Please show me ONE photo of a ligature strangulation mark which looks like a cone shape like the one on JB. I've been looking at a lot of photos and I'm just not finding any. Thanks!
There was several links posted, including the previous one. If you go to ACR JB archives and go to "other people's pages" Ruthee's section has photos of side-by-side strangulation victims, one of whom is JB. The other was a woman strangled with a scarf. The large triangular marks are almost identical.
Sorry- this is not a curling iron (or any other kind) of burn. This mark is the result of blood pooling under the skin at the point of deepest pressure. And fairly common in strangulation victims.
Please show me ONE photo of a ligature strangulation mark which looks like a cone shape like the one on JB. I've been looking at a lot of photos and I'm just not finding any. Thanks!
http://hosted.ap.org/specials/interactives/_national/jonbenet_ramsey/jonbenet_ramsey_autopsy.pdf
"A prominent dried abrasion was present on the lower left neck."
How would the ligature and bleeding underneath cause the surface of the skin to erode and have a "dried" surface?
I disagree with every word you typed.
There was several links posted, including the previous one. If you go to ACR JB archives and go to "other people's pages" Ruthee's section has photos of side-by-side strangulation victims, one of whom is JB. The other was a woman strangled with a scarf. The large triangular marks are almost identical.
Sorry- this is not a curling iron (or any other kind) of burn. This mark is the result of blood pooling under the skin at the point of deepest pressure. And fairly common in strangulation victims.
Bummer, the link says "GeoCities...this page no longer available." Can anyone else access the the photos?