The 6 minute phone call when JH failed to talk to anyone

[Linda7NJ]

I felt horrible for the brother when the pros sucker punched him with the whole sexting thing.

I didn't see it that way.

I felt bad the that left his baby in the car to roast didn't warn him BEFORE he had his defense attorney call him.
If anyone suckered him, it was Ross.

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[heidisams]

Did he mean he fell asleep while on hold?? While his dead son lay on the hot pavement!?

The statement Stoddard made about him saying "he must have fell asleep" really puzzled me! I kept rewinding trying to figure what on earth that comment meant. But, listening to it I think that they're (the prosecutor and Stoddard) actually jumping back in time and that answer, "he must have fell asleep" was referring to what Stoddard claims RH told them was a possible reason he forgot CH was in the car, not referring to why he was on the phone for 6 minutes.... Man, I really butchered that explanation, but if you go back and watch it you will notice they're skipping back to another topic right when that remark about him falling asleep was made. It's very confusing...
Second, I haven't heard a witness, or anyone, say anything other than RH was TALKING on his phone. No one has said he was just standing there with his phone or that he was on hold with someone, etc... All reports, so far, say he was conversing...???

All jmo.

 

[Karmady]

Did he mean he fell asleep while on hold?? While his dead son lay on the hot pavement!?

sorry, I have no idea what you're saying here. Who is he and where is the falling asleep coming from?

 

[princesspjs]

I also believe that the information about the call length and the number dialed, etc comes directly from his phone at this point.

I remember reading that several witnesses saw and heard him definitely talking to someone on the phone for some time. The officer asked him to get off of the phone twice and then he responded with "FUC# you!". At that time the phone was taken from him and he was handcuffed and put into the patrol car. They have had the phone since that time.

I'm glad that Justin...Ross...whatever probably didn't plan on his phone being confiscated so maybe he hadn't had a chance to go through and delete everything yet.

 

[Karmady]

sorry, I have no idea what you're saying here. Who is he and where is the falling asleep coming from?

quoting myself to say good grief, he's talking about Cooper falling asleep here, not himself. No wonder I had no clue!

 

[DeDee]

I posted a response to this earlier, but then deleted it because I wasn't sure.

I just watched the relevant portion of Det. Stoddard's testimony again, and he said they don't have RH's phone records from AT&T yet - he anticipates it taking 6 weeks or more.

It was confusing at first, because of the way the prosecutor asked the original question about RH's phone logs/records, until he specifically asked Stoddard if LE has the records from the service provider and Stoddard said no.

So, the info regarding calls, texts, etc. at this point has come from LE looking at RH's phone.

Feel free to correct any errors:

They know about several ways that Ross Harris was chatting via his computers. LE knows he was chatting with 6 different women while Cooper went into hyperthermia. It was during one of these online private chats that he sent a photo of his erection and she sent ph of her bare breasts. Again, while Cooper was suffering hyperthermia.

Additionally, LE knows more than just by looking at his phone that reveals a 6 minute call to HDC because they know the call was directed to the daycare. LE knows JRH phoned HDC for the daycare. iirc, around 4:23 LE arrives on scene for Cooper. LH arrives at daycare at 4:51 for Cooper.

LH departed the daycare and went to where Ross worked w/ the daycare person. This is where Cooper's murder investigators encountered LH. She never went to the scene where Cooper was. She never asked to see her baby. She only asked to see her husband. So they took her to headquarters. And when she saw her husband, she wanted to know if he said too much [about her involvement].

moo and all that jazz

 

[amymarie]

If he called and talked to someone, then there shouldn't have been so much confusion when Leanna got there because SOMEONE would have already known that Cooper was dead.

Unless that someone (mistress?) didn't want to admit she talked to RH.

Or unless there is some kind of coverup at the daycare (which I don't believe but just throwing it out there). Maybe LH was at the daycare earlier than reported and the six minute phone call was to her in order to get their stories straight?

 

[amymarie]

I really wish we knew what time the six minute phone call was made.

 

[matou]

Just watching video of the prelim and Stoddard asked Ross how he could have been on the phone for 6 minutes and not be talking to anyone. Ross' excuse was "he fell asleep." Snark? WTH?

OK now watching it again "How it could have occurred" probably means "how he could have forgotten about Cooper in the car. So confusing.

@13:45 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-tiBT_0nNg

 

[sweetcaro]

THAT is the phone I want to know about. If he told someone at the daycare that Cooper was dead, why didn't they tell Leanna when she showed up at 4:51?

Wait... didn't JRH call LH first? Did they speak? Why was she going to collect Cooper when he was dead. WTF she didn't know??? It had been approximately 50 minutes by that stage. This is the first time this has clicked with me with the times and her going to the daycare when Ross knew Cooper was dead at this point with there being police on scene and all. Please don't tell me daycare knew before her. I am confused. I hope we find out more about this 6 minute call and what they knew in regards to Cooper at that point and how it relates to LH being there. Could you imagine a parent coming to your daycare not knowing their kid was dead but you did? They must have known because one of the girls took LH to the scene?

 

[cebee]

I thought I read that the day care person was male ( Terrell ) and that SHE drove... if they knew at this point, or if she was panicking about what was going on.. why did someone not drive HER?? I would not be in a state to drive... and if they knew he was dead, they should have known that she would not be in a state to drive ( or would not be, shortly). Does anyone know how she got home afterwards? If the police brought her home ( or where did she go?? Parents house?) it would be interesting to hear what was said. Same with on the trip from the day care center...
Did she try to call JH after finding out that he never dropped the baby off? ( my first thought would be to call him... see if maybe he decided not to go to work, and they just went out for a little day/son time. Did she call him, call home, try to find out where he was? Im getting my time lines mixed up, but when she found out Cooper was not at day care.. if she tried to call him, would the police have his phone?

 

[matou]

I thought I read that the day care person was male ( Terrell ) and that SHE drove... if they knew at this point, or if she was panicking about what was going on.. why did someone not drive HER?? I would not be in a state to drive... and if they knew he was dead, they should have known that she would not be in a state to drive ( or would not be, shortly). Does anyone know how she got home afterwards? If the police brought her home ( or where did she go?? Parents house?) it would be interesting to hear what was said. Same with on the trip from the day care center...
Did she try to call JH after finding out that he never dropped the baby off? ( my first thought would be to call him... see if maybe he decided not to go to work, and they just went out for a little day/son time. Did she call him, call home, try to find out where he was? Im getting my time lines mixed up, but when she found out Cooper was not at day care.. if she tried to call him, would the police have his phone?

I think LE took his phone away during her calls. JMO

 

[tlcya]

I want to know which call he was on that he told the officer on scene to "F OFF!" twice when she told him to get off that call. Was it the six minute one?

 

[J1981]

I want to know which call he was on that he told the officer on scene to "F OFF!" twice when she told him to get off that call. Was it the six minute one?

I believe so but I don't have a quote to back that up. I think it was reported that the officers asked him multiple times to get off the phone which would confirm that it was a longer conversation.

 

[Karmady]

Wait... didn't JRH call LH first? Did they speak? Why was she going to collect Cooper when he was dead. WTF she didn't know??? It had been approximately 50 minutes by that stage. This is the first time this has clicked with me with the times and her going to the daycare when Ross knew Cooper was dead at this point with there being police on scene and all. Please don't tell me daycare knew before her. I am confused. I hope we find out more about this 6 minute call and what they knew in regards to Cooper at that point and how it relates to LH being there. Could you imagine a parent coming to your daycare not knowing their kid was dead but you did? They must have known because one of the girls took LH to the scene?

He did call LH first and they did not speak. The 6 minute call LE knows, somehow, was to the toddler room. But they haven't talked to any person he spoke with there and, personally, I'm not sure they know that he actually did speak with someone and that there's not some other reason why the connection lasted six minutes.

 

[gngr~snap]

I just have a feeling he was doing something nefarious like he called someone at daycare but at the same time he was wiping his history, contacts, emails etc clean at the same time.
I dunno
moo
ETA: Could it have been the man who escorted LH to Ross' office? Is he a director at the daycare? Someone who wouldn't want police swooping in and upsetting parents and children as they were picking the children up that day? Is he a PIO for The Little Apron Academy? I could see someone putting Ross on hold or transferring him to figure out how to handle it when mom came in...
moo

 

[human]

I know if my baby was dead I would be on that phone!

And I know I would be on that phone trailing the coffin during the funeral.

NOT!

How absurd this all is.

Yeah. People grieve differently.

But who starts dialing the phone instead of thinking about their child lying there?

Craaaaaazy!

 

[Detective Klimpt]

But who starts dialing the phone instead of thinking about their child lying there? Craaaaaazy!

I would be on the phone. It's not crazy. The child was dead; there was nothing else he could do. I would be on the phone calling my spouse, mother or whomever is close to me. When in a shock situation like this, why wouldn't you call your loved ones? That is not to say I support him in any way, but I like to think fairly.

As far as that 6 minute call the police claim was connected and he spoke to someone, consider that the police may have been wrong. Time will tell.

 

[PaperDoll]

Just watching video of the prelim and Stoddard asked Ross how he could have been on the phone for 6 minutes and not be talking to anyone. Ross' excuse was "he fell asleep." Snark? WTH?

OK now watching it again "How it could have occurred" probably means "how he could have forgotten about Cooper in the car. So confusing. (QUOTE)




I'm confused by this as well :blushing: I'm not sure what was meant by "he fell asleep".. Was he saying it was Cooper and that is why he forgot he was in the car, and if so, WTFudge??? You still don't forget he's in the car.. Or was it JRH fell asleep while on the phone for 6 minutes and that doesn't make sense either... So, I'm really confused now and that comes easy for me

 

[heidisams]

He did call LH first and they did not speak. The 6 minute call LE knows, somehow, was to the toddler room. But they haven't talked to any person he spoke with there and, personally, I'm not sure they know that he actually did speak with someone and that there's not some other reason why the connection lasted six minutes.

If LH didn't start calling JRH's phone from the daycare center immediately after her blurting out "he must've left him in the car" then she has big problems with her story... If she wasn't in on it, there's no question her very first call would be to JRH to find out what on earth happened and where CH was. I mean this was supposedly her worst fear... And if he doesn't answer, I'd expect to see a flurry of calls from her phone to his when they review those records. There's been no mention or reports, so far, of calls from her to JRH, just a request for her to see him...

All jmo.