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Just starting a thread so we can post links regarding the 911 calls to make the info easier to find later.
Okay, found it. Thanks to the original websleuths post made by trigger ( link ) in the 1st thread ( link )! Knew I saw it somewhere. Anyway, it's not in the printed bit, rather in the video ( link ). Go to approx the 2:17 mark, where they're interviewing the family. It's right after the interview. I went ahead and transcribed that bit as well (emphasis, news reporter's).
Gilbert's family says on that night Shannan met with a man she met on Craigslist at the beach in Long Island. They say police have talked to the man and he has taken a lie detector test. It is not the man Shannan named as her attacker.
In re: the Doctor. Imo, interpretations will be different. So, fwiw, here is the transcript from that section of the podcast: http://herewomentalkradio.com/home/archives_details/650
Sister: We found, um, a Dr. [redacted] who actually had called my mom. um. The day after she was reported missing. And basically told her, um, a fabricated story. Cuz when we had confronted him about it he denied it. But he told my mom that he saw shannan and he basically uh, er, ran um, a little like uh treatment place, and he saw shannan, took her in, and then in the morning, you know, he let her go. And then the driver came to pick her up. So when we confronted him ...
Woman: So let me just reframe this because... so, your sister runs missing from 1st man's house. There's 3 911 calls, police respond but never find her. And this man calls your mom and says I have a shelter or treatment center for people like this that are in this lifestyle and she stayed here and then she just walked off the next day, and she's fine.
Sister: Yeah. That's what he said. And um. We tried to get more information. And he just. I dunno. He just. He was lying.
Woman: And that's before you knew she was missing. Cuz he calls right away.
Sister: He called. Um. He called. Like I think a day after we reported her missing.
Woman: So she's not in the news. So she's not on TV. You know, it's not a public story yet.
Sister: Correct. It hadn't actually been a public story until December. Which was almost seven months when she went missing. We tried calling news papers. And um, you know, news reporters and everything. And nobody wanted to display until the four bodies came up and [garbled].
Woman: So let me get back to him just a minute. So, he claims she spent the night at his house. Now this is a gated community. All residental. There's no businesses or anything. It's all homes. And then he finds your mother. Now you guys never had contact with this man before he called you. Is that correct?
Sister: Yes. We never had contact with him.
Woman: So then he claims later that he didn't call you.
Sister: Yes. He says that he doesn't recall saying that to my sister. And my sister looks at him and says, you called my mother and said you saw her. And says oh, I don't recall saying that. I don't remember saying that. If I said that I would remember that. And it was just a little...
Woman: So if he didn't call you how would you know even know that he existed? How would you know have know to have gone there to look for her?
Sister: Yeah. I don't know if he was saying he didn't call her, in general. Or he was saying that he didn't say that. I think he was trying to say he never said that. But I was right there with my mom on the phone when she was speaking with him.
ETA ~ I listened and tried to transcribe, so pls feel free to correct any/all errors.
why would police flatly state that call has been "debunked" then ??
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...&gl=us&client=firefox-a&source=www.google.com
The weird thing is, though, after Suffolk Police Commissioner Richard Dormer told reporters the call was debunked, he added, "The homicide squad is going to check with the Gilbert family to follow up on that." And the article is dated 4/13/11. GOING to?
honestly imo i don't think the sk would ask the girls not to bring their cell phones. these girls are all too aware of the dangers of working and if a john asked them not to bring their phones that would be a huge red flag right off the bat.
the girls have to be street smart to survive, even if a john they frequented asked them not to bring their cell phone i'd think it would make the john look shady.
a lot of the girls likely used burners for work and for a john to ask them not to bring a phone just makes the john look really bad. there's no reason i could even think of that the john would use to ask them not to bring the phone. even a celebrity. if the girls were dealing with anyone famous, it's more likely that once they got to the john's house he would ask them to turn off their phones.
honestly imo i don't think the sk would ask the girls not to bring their cell phones. these girls are all too aware of the dangers of working and if a john asked them not to bring their phones that would be a huge red flag right off the bat.
the girls have to be street smart to survive, even if a john they frequented asked them not to bring their cell phone i'd think it would make the john look shady.
a lot of the girls likely used burners for work and for a john to ask them not to bring a phone just makes the john look really bad. there's no reason i could even think of that the john would use to ask them not to bring the phone. even a celebrity. if the girls were dealing with anyone famous, it's more likely that once they got to the john's house he would ask them to turn off their phones.
I absolutely agree with you on that, Chem. If some of our girls didn't bring a cell phone with them (and I'm not convinced that they didn't), then they left their phones behind because this guy had spent alot of time building up their trust.
JMO
This may not be the appropriate thread as labeled but I didn't want it to get lost in the general threads. I am looking for links between the GB4 and feel the cell phone activity is important. Am listing them in the order of the events and their deaths.
MAUREEN BRAINARD-BARNES: Cell phone with her;
police have subsequently linked her phone activity to a cell phone tower on Long Island.
7/9/07
MELISSA BARTHELEMY: Cell phone with her: Received a call from Massapequa, L.I. (saw client?) and deposited $900 in bank account, determined that around the time she vanished, she checked her voice mail from two motels in Massapequa, a Budget Inn and a Best Western. Eight days later sister Amanda began receiving calls from M's cell phone. The police traced the calls to cellular towers in Times Square and Madison Square Garden. Boyfriend claims he also received calls for about 8 months. Boy friend claims she hung out on LI with older man. a regular john, and another escort.
7/12/09
SHANNAN GILBERT Cell phone with her. Cell phone has disappeared, along with Shannan. Mother receives call from "Dr. Hackett."
5/1/10
MEGAN WATERMAN DOES NOT HAVE CELL PHONE. Her mother receives a call at her place of employment from someone claiming to be LE wanting to talk about her daughter's case.
AMBER COSTELLO: DOES NOT HAVE CELL PHONE. At john's request per Amber's roommate. ALC had received a call a few weeks prior to going missing at about 1 am, from a john wanting her to meet him at the same Express Holiday Inn (Happauge) where MW had last been seen.
QUESTIONS:
Did the SK ask the last two girls not to bring phones because of what happened to Shannan? (This could be a clue that Shannan is linked to the other cases.)
Who was the other escort Melissa Barthelemy hung out with in L.I? Could it have been Amber Costello or Shannan Gilbert?
Who was the older man Melissa hung out with on L.I? Could it have been JB? If the boy friend drove her there on several occasions, it could not have been the SK.
All but Amber's case involve phone games. Why not Amber's family, sister?
The cell phone games were very risky and hopefully will be his downfall.
<bbm>GC's house is before the gate
I know someone close to GC. He was never friends with JB, he had never heard of him before that night.
And if that were the case, why would GC call 911 for her?