The Anthony Backyard *REVISITED*

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OMG... I am having a lightbulb moment about the gas cans. I had been thinking about the plastic in the gas cans absorbing the odor of decomp, hence the hits,
but it never occured to me that actual decomp fluids got on the bottom of those cans and transferred to the backyard everytime/ place that they were moved.

Thank you, I think.:waitasec:
 
Where did this lime talk come from? Who said that lime was in the backyard? What a huge revelation if that is the case. I might think that KC scooped lime into a bag or something with that shovel she borrowed. That is if the A's really had a bag of lime at their home....
 
The backyard as I know it.

The playhouse is too heavy for one person to lift, so say many folks here. I am not sure it is too heavy to push. Someone can help with this I am sure. The playhouse was at one time (before the July 4th weekend) located in the corner area where we now see all the evidence flags and where the bamboo shoots run wild. (they do if you have ever had them) Over the July 4th weekend, GA added a little slab of pavers for the playhouse to sit on. The little slab of pavers can be seen in the photo. It gives the playhouse a little patio and even a garden. Cute as can be.

The dogs hit at the playhouse, the corner where the bamboo is, and near the pool on the other side of the lanai.

The playhouse was moved from that slab during the official backyard search. CA told us about GA pouring sweat while doing the work and suggesting that GA's sweat and blood from scraped hands explained the dogs' interest in the area.

LE asked GA if he knew what caused the depression in the yard which was once under the playhouse. GA said he did not. The area shows an oval pattern of flags, about 4'x3', and excavated soil.

I suggest that the playhouse was raised above the ground when it was in the corner. Probably on a wooden platform similar to a big pallet, so no rain water would puddle inside. GA would never allow Caylee's playhouse to get too icky. If one person can slide that playhouse, I suggest that KC slid it over and took advantage of the soft soil underneath, put the baby in the soil and slid the playhouse back over her.

No matter what they now say, the A's originally stated that on the morning of June 17th, they became aware that the gate was open and the ladder was up in the pool. CA swears she put the ladder away on the 15th, hadn't used it since and even fussed at GA for leaving it up. He said he does not even get in the pool that often, only for brief periods if that and it wasn't him.

Caylee was last seen at 12:50 and maybe heard by Jesse 2 hours later on the 16th, then poof! She died at the house that afternoon and was shoved under the playhouse to be dealt with later. I understand that was a rainy day, so I don't see them staying in the pool all afternoon and this may be the reason the ladder was still up, they ran inside when it started raining. (or CA left it up on the 15th, or GA went in the pool and left it up - I dont' know)

When she returned to retrieve the body, on the 18th, she left the playhouse askew. This is what roused GA's suspicion. The hit by the pool is where she dropped her decomp scented and who knows what stained clothes before taking a dip in the pool. Then the clothes went into the pool too, they sunk to the bottom and were retrieved - with a shovel. Everything was already wrapped up in the trunk. Shower, shampoo, make-up, return the shovel, still looking fresh and clean and drive away. Wet clothes on back floorboard, stayed right there until July 15th.

Thanks for posting this theory! I too firmly believe Caylee was placed in the backyard for a time. Unless the criminalists dug that depression we see under the playhouse when the dogs hit (see pictures taken over A house by helicopter), then I think it was the work of Casey.
 
Just a silly fact here. Garden lime is used by, uh hum, me and us other "country folk" to get rid of the dogs urine and feces smell. It smells really bad in the summer when the dogs go in the yard. I got so scared reading here about disguising decomp with lime that I started putting out Borax, baking powder or carpet powder for fear my neighbors would think something sinister, lol! Anyhow, I don't think the lime was for anything sinister. I don't think it would help decomp much, it barely helps with dog stuff. (The scented carpet powder helped some, the lime not as much as I would like it does help the poo disolve more quickly if you don't feel like picking up, but not suggested to not pick up.)

Lime is used by a lot of people (not just us country folk ;)) for regular lawn care/maintenance (to reduce the acidity, make the grass greener, healthier etc). If a lawn doesn't have the right PH level, the grass won't benefit from fertilizer and tends to yellow or turn dull green- so apply lime yearly and no problems.

As picky as GA seems to be about doing things the right way, it didn't surprise me or hit me as off when it was noted that he was spreading lime on the grass -- especially since it was getting ready to rain (a lot) which is the best time to apply it. It just never hit me as an issue -- and I'd say that if anyone is concerned they could probably ask the neighbors or GA himself about his lawn care habits, because I doubt this was anything new or unusual.


I recall the interview where he talked about LE getting ready to search in the backyard and how nervous he was. He then said something along the lines that it hit him that it would just be too wrong for KC to have buried her there. I tend to disagree with him on that because I don't think *anything* is too wrong when it comes to KC doing something. But I do think she realized Caylee's remains would be found too easily if she buried her there. If she lived there alone I could see her doing it though - just because it would be convenient.

But there had to have been something either from the trunk or Caylee herself that made those dogs hit on the yard. After their search LE seemed confident she wasn't back there, and I think they would have kept on digging if they'd felt there was even a remote chance that she could be.

This does bring up something that keeps bothering me: Caylee's doll was found in the car. Does anyone know if they took the doll and tested it??? I can't imagine why KC didn't put the doll with Caylee - that's the freaking least she could have done :mad: but since she didn't, I'd love it if the doll contained some sort of evidence that could be used against KC...
 
Thanks for the ph information, I did not know that part. Probably because I hate mowing grass, so I would just leave it to turn yellow and dry up if were my task to mow, lol!

I too believe Caylee was in the back yard for a brief time, and also believe that KC would have left it that way, just to spite CA, if fear had not struck for being found out. Just a horrible thought, but true.
 
Thanks for the ph information, I did not know that part. Probably because I hate mowing grass, so I would just leave it to turn yellow and dry up if were my task to mow, lol!

I too believe Caylee was in the back yard for a brief time, and also believe that KC would have left it that way, just to spite CA, if fear had not struck for being found out. Just a horrible thought, but true.

My hubby used to have a landscaping business so I cheated and asked him ;)

Yep, ICAM. She is one warped person, and I can almost imagine her smirking while picturing the look on her parent's faces when LE discovered her back there. Granted I doubt C or G would still be with us if that had happened...
 
Granted I doubt C or G would still be with us if that had happened...
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I fully agree. GA has lost it already, CA is strong but fading rapidly. If this happened I believe there would be a horrible incident and neither would be alive anymore. I just cannot imagine...
 
I've read all 700 pages released yesterday.

I've read all of the other evidence released previously.

I don't recall reading anything about new pavers or a new patio or new cement in the backyard. Does anyone else? Or is this just a rumor?

Reading the emails from CA's family and the dire straits of the A's financial situation (not being able to make it through the week!), I find it highly unlikely that they would have installed anything in their backyard without a really, really good reason.

I would like to know if we have any proof at all that something was installed in their backyard over the 4th of July weekend as has been rumored.
 
Tonight on NG it was reported that LE found a hole dug in the backyard and that George had told people he noticed it before. How was this kept quiet for so long? Why didn't George tell LE about this and why did they say they just did regular gardening and that is why the soil was disturbed? Were they covering for Casey or did they really think the hole in the ground wasn't relevant and not worth telling LE about? Or did they just think that telling "mistruths" was ok?

Could this be part of the OJ they are talking about re the gp's?

I hope we can get the exact words used on NG soon....I didn't get it verbatim, but think this is the gist of it.


ETA: JBEAN here... just to clarify to newcomers, this was presented as new information by the way it was described on NG tonight. So that is what the following debate is about. So if you would like to discuss the soil disturbance go ahead, but understand the original posters on this thread thought it was something else. Leave it to NG .
 
I am shocked we haven't heard about this before! I also can't understand why it was never brought up during the released interviews of George.
 
Tonight on NG it was reported that LE found a hole dug in the backyard and that George had told people he noticed it before. How was this kept quiet for so long? Why didn't George tell LE about this and why did they say they just did regular gardening and that is why the soil was disturbed? Were they covering for Casey or did they really think the hole in the ground wasn't relevant and not worth telling LE about? Or did they just think that telling "mistruths" was ok?

Could this be part of the OJ they are talking about re the gp's?

I hope we can get the exact words used on NG soon....I didn't get it verbatim, but think this is the gist of it.

Maybe he did. Grand jury and all that.
 
I thought George pointed out to LE where soil had been "disturbed"



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Maybe he did. Grand jury and all that.

He doesn't mention it in any of the iv's we've seen, and if he told them, I would expect they would have made sure they had such a statement recorded or signed. He did talk about the gardening on Greta, but that's the only time I recall him addressing the disturbances to the backyard, which he said were due to July 4 weekend gardening.
 
I remember something about him throwing done lye? on the grass. Am I remembering right. Because if he was worrying about lawn work while Caylee was missing, something stinks to high heaven.
 
We've known about this for quite a long time. I think it was described as a mysterious depression by the pool. I believe it was shown on the Greta Van Susteran interview with the Anthony's.
 
I thought George pointed out to LE where soil had been "disturbed"



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Soooo long ago and sooo many stories since. I thought they talked about moving the hibiscus, putting new pavers down, and told police that they themselves had dug in the backyard before the search, because they wanted to check for themselves to see if Caylee might be there. But I don't recall him telling police he noticed soil was disturbed, as in an unexplained hole or disturbance caused by anyone but him in his gardening/digging for Caylee.
 
We've known about this for quite a long time. I think it was described as a mysterious depression by the pool. I believe it was shown on the Greta Van Susteran interview with the Anthony's.

I don't think anyone was aware of just how big it was back then though.
 
In the latest doc. dump, this was the one thing that stood out to me like a sore thumb. No one else had mentioned it, so I thought others saw it and it wasn't that impt.. But I guess NG or someone on her show noticed it, and it is a bombshell. That's what I thought when I first read about it. He noticed the dug out area and showed it to the investigators. I'd have to go back and find the exact quotes about it, but I think she was right, it was 5 or 6 inches by 12 inches and a few inches deep. Oh, that's right, she was digging out the bamboo, not digging a grave.
 

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