The Anthony Family: Who Might be the First to Tell the Truth?

[future criminologist]

You know...I've thought about this. I want to feel sorry for the Anthonys because they lost their granddaughter. And also, because GA is kind of an easy mark (and I purposely use the word "mark" for I don't think she views anyone in her life as a human being, just as people she can take advantage of and use for her own benefit) for KC - as apparent from the interview transcripts, he's really not that bright, and has no say in his own home, nor does he have much of a backbone. That being said, these two "parents" had a huge hand in creating this monster. Why? Because in all of the interviews and the numerous, numerous times their own daughter lied to them and STOLE MONEY from them, even hacked into their accounts to do so, never once did I see any consequences whatsoever put on her. I firmly believe that she was raised without them and learned how to run circles around them because she would never be held accountable for her actions. I think if I could ask them anything, it would be, why wasn't she ever punished for this??? If I had hacked into my mother's bank account and stolen hundreds of dollars, you can bet she would have called police on me and I would have faced the consequences. Cindy seems to have no problem and no reaction to it whatsoever. That to me is highly disturbing. Maybe the problem is that these parents really WOULD do anything for her, and I don't know if that's an admirable skill to have as a parent - if you know Dad will always bail you out, what's to stop you from doing whatever you want to do and leave him to deal with it, especially if you already have little to no respect for him? And their only basis for considering KC a good mom to own daughter was that her kid was always "clean and fed". Well, I guess there's nothing in their moral playbook about setting a good example or setting limits/discipline, the value of working hard to become successful and self-sufficient (just when did they expect her to stop stealing money and actually work?), and teaching kids right from wrong. It just blows my mind. And I don't think they will change, even when thrown under the bus. I think GA and CA really WILL lay on their swords for her, as they've always done, and to them this is being a "good parent". Sorry, but I have higher standards than that, and a jaded view of humanity - people just don't change like that overnight, they are mostly set in their ways.

 

[SATA]

I think GA will crack if anyone does. He seems like the weakest link in this family. I think years and years of CA and then KC destroyed him.

I heard that George´s ex-wife said that Casey, in her opinion, got her lying habit from her dad. She claims that he told lie after lie after lie. (And sorry, I can´t remember where - it was a reporter who had spoken to her.)
So according to this, he was "problematic" before he even met Cindy.
I don´t think anyone from the family will "crack" and tell the truth. First of all, I don´t think anyone besides Casey knows what happened to Caylee, and she is NEVER going to say what happened.
I think her parents lied because they were in denial. They could open up about the family dynamics - Casey must have gotten the way she is SOMEHOW; I don´t think she was born that way.

 

[JusticeSeeker1960]

I heard that George´s ex-wife said that Casey, in her opinion, got her lying habit from her dad. She claims that he told lie after lie after lie. (And sorry, I can´t remember where - it was a reporter who had spoken to her.)
So according to this, he was "problematic" before he even met Cindy.
I don´t think anyone from the family will "crack" and tell the truth. First of all, I don´t think anyone besides Casey knows what happened to Caylee, and she is NEVER going to say what happened.
I think her parents lied because they were in denial. They could open up about the family dynamics - Casey must have gotten the way she is SOMEHOW; I don´t think she was born that way.

I think she very well could have been born this way. As far out there as she is, to me, isn't something that is learned. I think G&C thought they were raising her right, just as we all do. And, no, I don't think you ever fully turn your back on your child, not if you are a true parent. I'm sure they are in denial & perhaps want answers just as we do. But, on the other hand, they would do anything to keep from having their child killed. One death they may be able to get over one day, two, I don't know.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

I cannot kick this fear that this whole defense thing is a huge setup and that when the defense is presenting their case they will make it look like they "break" George. He did say he would do anything to protect ICA and yet it wouldn't look believable if he just agreed right of the bat that he was present when the child died, abuse, etc. It would be more believable if the strategy was for them to wait and possibly let CM grill George until he broke and admitted to all. Which would blow the entire case out of the water. Is anyone else concerned that the whole bunch may have this planned to save her or am I just a paranoid/distrustful person?

You I have my doubts as well. I just cannot forget the past three years with this group...and today out of boredom I am going back and re-reading some discovery releases. Here is an excerpt from a letter from Cindy to ICA.

My Dearest Casey,
Can’t believe it’s Sept. Already it’s almost been a year since I last gave you a hug. I know its tough for you but you have to know that you have so so many people that are praying for you and that believe in you. I guess you know now that Jose cannot give you or read you my letters anymore. They will continue to try and put up roadblocks but we won’t ever let that happen because whatever they do to try and separate us from you------we will overcome it. We are a strong united family that loves each other and will always be there for each other. I was so grateful to Andrea that she was able to turn you toward me and your dad so I could see you and tell you that I love you. I really like Andrea a lot and she believes in you and will not let them continue to crucify you.

Just when did Cindy "see" ICA?

 

[LinasK]

What searches did he admit to? I don't think he admitted to searching for "chloroform" or any of the other injury-words, did he?

Not Chloroform, but the Sawgrass Apartments...

 

[Nefriahaia]

Somehow I can't see ANY of them guest starring on "To Tell The Truth". :crazy:

 

[JenniferTx]

I don't think any of us will ever know the ENTIRE TRUE STORY EVER. I wish we would but I don't see it happening.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

I always wondered if Shirley already cracked once - this part of her 8/28 interview still bothers me:

YM: Do you ac...do you actually think Casey would have done something to Caylee to spite Cindy?
SP: No but I think that's the way she, she kept her away like that. But how could the accident happen the very next day? When she had her away all month, why would it happen if she was home on the 15th, home on the 16th, until she left that day, when they are trying to say the 16th, 17th or 18th something would have happened to her.
SB: What, what, what accident?
SP: Huh?
SB: What accident?
SP: What accident?
SB: Yeah (affirmative)
SP: Uh...
SB: Did Cindy tell you about an accident or something?
SP: No. But I say on the T...on, the only thing I kept up with was...

and Shirley goes on to say that it was just speculation on the TV she's been watching.

Yuri tries to catch her again:
YM: So what did Cindy tell you about the accident? Did she specifically tell you?
SP: What accident hon, honey?
YM: Okay (laughs).
SP: You mean if something happened to her?
YM: Did Cindy uh, say anything about that?
SP: No.
YM: Okay.
SP: Just...
SB: Just the TV.
YM: Okay.
SP: Yeah (affirmative).
SB: You, you got that from the TV?
SP: Yeah (affirmative).
YM: Okay. Okay.

pgs 36, 37, 38
http://www.wftv.com/blank/18974289/detail.html

Wowsers. I've never seen this.

 

[SATA]

I think she very well could have been born this way. As far out there as she is, to me, isn't something that is learned. I think G&C thought they were raising her right, just as we all do. And, no, I don't think you ever fully turn your back on your child, not if you are a true parent. I'm sure they are in denial & perhaps want answers just as we do. But, on the other hand, they would do anything to keep from having their child killed. One death they may be able to get over one day, two, I don't know.

I sincerely hope they will not have to go through that. I really, really feel for Cindy and George, no matter what.

 

[future criminologist]

I think she very well could have been born this way. As far out there as she is, to me, isn't something that is learned. I think G&C thought they were raising her right, just as we all do. And, no, I don't think you ever fully turn your back on your child, not if you are a true parent. I'm sure they are in denial & perhaps want answers just as we do. But, on the other hand, they would do anything to keep from having their child killed. One death they may be able to get over one day, two, I don't know.

But if they "raised her right" as you say, why were there NEVER any consequences when she stole money from them? Or when GA found out that she was lying about working at Sports Authority? Go back and read the interview with Cindy that LE did - When CA was questioned specifically about KC charging $4500 on her credit card without her knowledge, stealing checks, and hacking into accounts, CA did NOTHING. No consequences. It didn't even affect her. I believe she was asked specifically if this bothered her, and she said "No". It's not like this girl was a drug addict desperate for cash - she could have worked, finished high school, supported herself, but she chose not to - she chose to rob her parents blind because she knew they'd never punish her, because she'd probably never been punished in her life. These weren't parents "enabling" an addict - we're all taught certain values and behaviors from the time we are babies. That's how we learn how to make responsible adult decisions. I'm so tired of parents being afraid to appropriately discipline their kids and set limits - kids have to learn how to be independent and make their own responsible decisions, that they can't always get what they want, and make mistakes that they will learn from. Preparing a kid for adulthood, letting him make his own mistakes and face the consequences. Otherwise you have an entitled brat like CA turning 18 and expecting instant gratification of all her needs and wants, no work ethic, who thinks that Daddy will always rescue her. It's the most pathetic excuse for parenting I've ever seen.

 

[future criminologist]

Wowsers. I've never seen this.

I think Shirley is projecting what she thinks may have happened. I've read in interviews Rick (Cindy's brother) has given that he also believes there was an accident and a cover-up. He and his mother (Shirley) know Casey is a liar and a thief and do not have the rose-colored lenses on about Casey that Cindy does - but at the same time, I don't think they are ready to face the fact that she possibly murdered her. That's why sociopaths are so scary - one of the skills in their toolbox of terror is the ability to charm and deceive others into thinking they are incapable of doing harm - and that's how they get away with it for so long.

 

[future criminologist]

Is he still covering for Casey? I've never been sure about him. I do think Cindy and George have turned a corner in doing the right thing...

I find Lee the most difficult to read. On the one hand, he seemed to know from the very beginning that most of what CA says is total BS. And when I watch the jailhouse videos, I'm not sure he's just playing his sister's game in order to get the truth from her, or if he really does believe in her innocence. It sounds like, however, he decided a long time ago to disengage himself from her and his parents (as evident from the fact that he does not write to her at all in prison). At times his reactions seem wildly inappropriate, and at other times he seems remarkably level-headed. I think for a long time he wanted to just stay in the middle and not play a side, and now he wants no involvement whatsoever. Notice how remarkably neutral his testimony is. He's not making any overly dramatic statements. I would bet that once the trial is over, no matter the outcome, he and Mallory leave the state and start their lives over someplace else, and avoid contact with GA and CA altogether.

 

[loralei]

Why was Lee granted limited immunity? What does he need immunity from prosecution for?

 

[Tuffy]

Why was Lee granted limited immunity? What does he need immunity from prosecution for?

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2010/01/24/lee-anthony-he-knows-what-he-has-done/

obstruction of justice.

According to his attorney, Mr. Luka: "He knows what he has done."

 

[Tuffy]

I don't think any of them will ever tell the truth. The secrets, the Anthonys will take to their graves. If any of them would tell the truth, it would be Casey first. Then the rest of them might come clean. But until Casey admits what she did, I can't see her mom, brother, or father calling her a murderer.

 

[Sabrina2011]

LEE HAS A SECRET. He is my one question mark...what does he know and what did he do

 

[sparkysmom]

I heard that George´s ex-wife said that Casey, in her opinion, got her lying habit from her dad. She claims that he told lie after lie after lie. (And sorry, I can´t remember where - it was a reporter who had spoken to her.)
So according to this, he was "problematic" before he even met Cindy.
I don´t think anyone from the family will "crack" and tell the truth. First of all, I don´t think anyone besides Casey knows what happened to Caylee, and she is NEVER going to say what happened.
I think her parents lied because they were in denial. They could open up about the family dynamics - Casey must have gotten the way she is SOMEHOW; I don´t think she was born that way.

I'm new here...hope you don't mind me jumping right in. It was Dr. Drew who spoke with GA's ex-wife. She stated that he had a lying problem and she thought Casey did too. I personally don't put much stock in what the ex-wife says because I don't know how much she even knew Casey, and with GA and her being ex's, this could be her way of saying "screw you" to him on national TV.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

I'm new here...hope you don't mind me jumping right in. It was Dr. Drew who spoke with GA's ex-wife. She stated that he had a lying problem and she thought Casey did too. I personally don't put much stock in what the ex-wife says because I don't know how much she even knew Casey, and with GA and her being ex's, this could be her way of saying "screw you" to him on national TV.

Welcome sparkysmom.....
:wagon::Welcome1::welcome:

 

[cluciano63]

The more I learn from the trial and from reading some threads here, the more I doubt that any of the Anthonys will ever tell the complete truth; I think they all know more than they will ever say.

I could not sleep last night and was reviewing George's demeanor with Casey when they visited her at jail in August 2008; his greeting to her (Good morning, beautiful, or whatever) and asking how she slept one time, I think....gives me the creeps. Not because of what he said, but in this setting, in those circumstances...why is he dancing around her so much, placating her so much, she is in JAIL, her daughter has been missing for almost 2 months, and they KNOW Casey has lied about everything.

So it makes me suspicious of George...of what, I do not know, but his are not the actions of a "normal" dad in this situation and I cannot imagine that a juror would think so either. To me, he seems afraid to upset her and he seems to be telling her to placate mom. Just very odd and "off" behavior to me.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Why was Lee granted limited immunity? What does he need immunity from prosecution for?

Deliberately obstructing the investigation.