The Box From Hell (BFH) - #1

[LisainWV]

If Brody was greedy enough to want an innocent child killed to stop Waters CS payments, don't you think he would have made sure that her body was found - leaving no doubts of her death and no doubts about stopping the child support? That is the one thought that has always given me hope that she was alive.

GW's statement about the tot being dead may have just been their way of referring to their plan of getting rid of her - kinda CYA stuff so that people bought into the idea that she was dead.

These guys were whacked out, but I just don't see them killing Anna and I don't think they would have been willing to pay out the bucks to have someone do it for them.

They had a foolproof way of getting paperwork for Anna that made it possible to go through with a "legal" adoption somewhere. I also think that is why she is so hard to find - the people around her have no idea that she was actually abducted.

My :twocents:

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

... but I just don't see them killing Anna and I don't think they would have been willing to pay out the bucks to have someone do it for them....My :twocents:

I'm positive you are right. It seems that the legacy of these guys have changed over the last few years. In the beginning, (way before I became a register member) this was how GW was described by Dr. Doogie on the 1st Anna Thread November 16, 2005. #20
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32211
Dr Doogie Wrote:

In the few years after Anna's birth, George's behavior became more irrational: demanding money from his family, complaints to Anna's mother concerning what was a small child support payment for Anna, crazy accusations toward any and all who used to be his friends. Waters was finally diagnosed as a paranoid-schizophrenic. His family decided against having him committed (even though he had shown himself to be a danger to himself and others) in an effort to let him maintain his doctor's license.

It's the "old" thoughts on GW that has influenced my thinking, (and the fact he was capable of killing, as in himself) The newer version of Waters is that he was a pretty great guy who was maybe just a little depressed with a mild touch of bi-polar who fell under the clutches of a 5'4" brain washing old man who thought he was the late JC in the flesh. :angel:

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Let me clarify my thoughts because I can now see where my words were not precise:

Waters was a threat to himself because of suicidal thoughts (suspected at the time and reinforced years later by the "Rommel Letters"). He was a threat to others because his judgment was impaired as a physician. I did not mean to imply that he posed a threat to "go postal" or that he exhibited the desire to inflict violence, though my words could certainly be interpeted that way.

 

[Annasmom]

Let me clarify my thoughts because I can now see where my words were not precise:

Waters was a threat to himself because of suicidal thoughts (suspected at the time and reinforced years later by the "Rommel Letters"). He was a threat to others because his judgment was impaired as a physician. I did not mean to imply that he posed a threat to "go postal" or that he exhibited the desire to inflict violence, though my words could certainly be interpeted that way.

I might add that the psychiatrist who made the diagnosis thought he might be a threat to himself, but not to others. Apparently he was able to function capably enough in his work until the last year or so of his life. Statistics on the treatment of paranoid schizophrenia were not encouraging at that time. It seemed unlikely that an involuntary commitment could have any result other than removing the one area (work) in which GW was able to function somewhat normally.

 

[InterestedNHelping]

Schizophrenics, (if that is a truly correct diagnosis) are in the 90 percentile range, high 90s, of being only threats to themselves. They rarely hurt anyone else...and I can certainly see how that may have come into play involuntarily as a physician.
However, a little known secret, they are also often highly intelligent and high functioning individuals.

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

I read that GW claimed that Brody had wealthy family back east. I wonder how far east. If you are in a pacific coastal area, just about every where is east...LOL In the Box was there any mention of Colorado in it? What about professor Mariani from Greeley College?

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Not that I am aware of.

 

[SherlockJr]

With permission from Annasmom I am posting a couple pages at a time from GW's pocket calendar for all to review.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

Some deciphering of the above notes:

Chronicle = San Francisco Chronicle - the largest local newspaper

Roos = Roos Atkins - a department store (similar to Macy's)

G.G. College = Golden Gate College - a private university located in downtown SF

Stacey's Bookstore = a large general bookstore located a couple of blocks from where the two Georges lived

CMA = California Medical Association


Two things of interest in the above:

"Photo static copy of L I P {life insurance policy?} (notarized) to Geo. Registered letter to G. to {?}" Can anybody make out the missing word here?

And, does anyone know what Title 13 in the U.S. Code is relating to?

 

[Cubby]

Two things of interest in the above:

"Photo static copy of L I P {life insurance policy?} (notarized) to Geo. Registered letter to G. to {?}" Can anybody make out the missing word here?

And, does anyone know what Title 13 in the U.S. Code is relating to?

The missing word looks like "inform" to me.

Quick search on Title 13 is the US Census. My only thoughts here are they were looking into what info was collected with the 1970 census. -or- They did not want to be included in the census. -or- privacy issues related to the census.

What was Bonzana Inn?

 

[smile22]

i went to white pages with the phone numbers scribbled on the paper and used a 415 area code i am not sure how far that is in relation to Anna's case its a san fran area code is there another major city closer to half moon bay? the first number i did the 673 number came back as
Type: Land LineProvider: Pacific BellLocation: San Francisco, CA

its the same info with all of the other ones it said those numbers were unpublished. i found a website that u can use partial for business and just the 6 digit for residental i did partial and it gave me listings for ny ,ca, Washingon, then i did the full listing and gave me even more



http://ypng.infospace.com/home/yell...N%3D%26PI%3D%26NA%3D%26STYPE%3D%26R%3DN&19162

 

[SherlockJr]

i went to white pages with the phone numbers scribbled on the paper and used a 415 area code i am not sure how far that is in relation to Anna's case its a san fran area code is there another major city closer to half moon bay? the first number i did the 673 number came back as
Type: Land LineProvider: Pacific BellLocation: San Francisco, CA

its the same info with all of the other ones it said those numbers were unpublished. i found a website that u can use partial for business and just the 6 digit for residental i did partial and it gave me listings for ny ,ca, Washingon, then i did the full listing and gave me even more


http://ypng.infospace.com/home/yell...N%3D%26PI%3D%26NA%3D%26STYPE%3D%26R%3DN&19162

Interesting how a school district in Santa Ana comes up in your search.

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

The missing word looks like "inform" to me.

Quick search on Title 13 is the US Census. My only thoughts here are they were looking into what info was collected with the 1970 census. -or- They did not want to be included in the census. -or- privacy issues related to the census.

What was Bonzana Inn?

I bet they where checking the privacy issues, considering the note on the law library and city hall beneath it. I'm sure they where glad to find that an amendment was added to title 13 in 1954 to exclude all names, addresses and social security information from being publish in any census reports. Great for them...but not so great for us genealogy buffs of the future to trace any family roots.

 

[SherlockJr]

2 more pages....

 

[MagicRose99]

The missing word looks like "inform" to me.

Quick search on Title 13 is the US Census. My only thoughts here are they were looking into what info was collected with the 1970 census. -or- They did not want to be included in the census. -or- privacy issues related to the census.

What was Bonzana Inn?

Wish we had a 1970s phone book... elsewhere on the page it says"
392-7378
Bonanza Inn
650 Market

 

[MagicRose99]

"Loss payable in US currency?"

Is this in regards to travel insurance maybe?

 

[SherlockJr]

I understand that most, if not all, the policies in the BFH are travel insurance policies.

 

[iNTERESTEDWOMAN]

Wish we had a 1970s phone book... elsewhere on the page it says"
392-7378
Bonanza Inn
650 Market

If you google Bonanza Inn CA I only see a Best Western Bonanza Inn and Convention center in Yuba

Best Western Bonanza Inn. Full Address, 1001 Clark Ave Yuba City, CA 95991-3314 Click Here for Driving Directions. Phone, 5306748824


And this reference: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0030-8684(194006)9:2<232:BIAFLH>2.0.CO;2-Q

• Bonanza Inn: America's First Luxury Hotel by Oscar Lewis, Carroll D. Hall

Author(s) of Review: Elmer C. Sandmeyer
The Pacific Historical Review, Vol. 9, No. 2 (Jun., 1940), pp. 232-233
This article consists of 2 page(s).

 

[Annasmom]

If you google Bonanza Inn CA I only see a Best Western Bonanza Inn and Convention center in Yuba

Best Western Bonanza Inn. Full Address, 1001 Clark Ave Yuba City, CA 95991-3314 Click Here for Driving Directions. Phone, 5306748824


And this reference: http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0030-8684(194006)9:2<232:BIAFLH>2.0.CO;2-Q

• Bonanza Inn: America's First Luxury Hotel by Oscar Lewis, Carroll D. Hall

Author(s) of Review: Elmer C. Sandmeyer
The Pacific Historical Review, Vol. 9, No. 2 (Jun., 1940), pp. 232-233
This article consists of 2 page(s).

I'm pretty sure this was a San Francisco motel. See SherlockJr's address listing above. Market Street isn't exactly the high-rent district.

 

[Dr. Doogie]

2 more pages....

Once again, Waters seemed to be obsessing on protecting Brody as the beneficiary against any possible claims by "friends and family". The more I see, the more I believe that this was the motive for Anna to be abducted.